Handling anti-Catholic bigotry online or in person

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The thing is some who belong to whatever denomanational type church or a fringe groups who cal themselves Christians when it comes to Catholic’s or the Catholic Church or its teachings they tend to try and convince everyone that Catholic’s really are not Christian or that they are evil idol worshipers who never read the Bible. They tend to quote verses out of context claiming they know and are being guided by the Holy Spirit. When they are confronted with anyone who disagrees with their personal interpretations as I have seen on some sites the paste picture they have redone to show that catholic’s the Pope priests and anyone they can think of in the most vile manor thinking that this will convince catholic’s of their supposed evil ways and come over to thier way of thinking and believing. Sdaly some Catholic’s not educated in their faith or those who for whatever reason have a beef with the Church will become haters of the Church and its people.

They tend to ridicule Catholic beliefs and teaching and traditions claiming its not in the bIble so therefore its not Christian. But as one poster mentioned not every person who either belongs to a fringe group like JW or SDA etc. are that way. it really depends on the particular Church they belong to where the pastor or minister preaches hatred against the Catholic Church and Catholic’s in general in which they come to believe its true and so fired with zeal decide to go out and convert every catholic they can by whatever means at hand. Yet, more often then not when confronted by those Catholic’s who know and understand Scripture are not able to answer the questions or change the subject in order to avoid answering.
This is why I inform and don’t get into arguments with these types of people as they never listen or accept anything said to them. They only want to present they own point of view and interpretations as the only correct one to have. Better to just pass them by
 
What you are saying is true, if that is the case (not on this forum, but it is a Catholic forum so yea) .

But seeing words like heretics does put that person in a " different" catagory for us.
 
MichaelP3 CAF I believe does not allow the type of people I’m speaking of whether they be Catholic’s or non-Catholic. I was referring to sites like Carm. and sites like those who it seems are places where they can and do say disrespectful things about Catholic’s or anyone else for that matter that does not agree with what they say.

Here on CAF while one can disagree with a post generally speaking they give their view point without the rudeness most of the time anyway depending on the subject matter being discussed. I really do not like to use the word heretic as it can be offensive who believe in goof faith what they have been taught and seek God through Christ. They try to be honest in what they say and believe wanting to understand the differences between what Catholic believe and why and what they believe.

Sometimes the misunderstanding comes from how something is said when in the end it might be the same thing the other one said but in a different way. We all don’t understand the same way sometimes we have to hear it in different ways in order to understand clearly. But as Christians whether Catholic or non-Catholic there is no room for bigotry either on line or in person as it leaves no room for civil discourse.
 
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I was referring to sites like O Carm. and sites like those who it seems are places where they can and do say disrespectful things about Catholic’s or anyone else for that matter that does not agree with what they say.
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Do you mean the anti-Catholic website CARM (Christian Apologetics & Research Ministry)? I ask because OCarm.org is the official website of the Carmelite Order and they’re 100% Catholic.
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Hi TigerLily-1 No I do not mean the one from the Carmelite sites that have that name as I am a Discalced carmelite Secular. I’m referring to the Carm site that is an anti-Catholic site I was told it was called O carm but I apologize if that is wrong and its just carm. I know what O Carmel is and know its a Catholic religious order just as OCD and OCDS is sorry that I was not clear.
 
A lot of people hate the Catholic Church because they believe that the church is corrupted and some people believe that the Holy Orders are deliberately leading people astray.

My parents are protestants, and I love them to death, but they sure do know how to brand anger into my heart when they say the Catholic Church for condemning the congregation as “Just a bunch of sinners” and that the pope is just an ordinary guy. Or when they say “Poor Mary, having all those people worship her… just for being a servant of God!”

I usually just handle it with silence…

And online especially, sometimes people just want to get under your skin. I remember countless times trying to diffuse people online who were hating on Catholicism… Or Christianity in general. Then I realized, they don’t deserve my response. Sometimes, the wisest thing to do is walk away (this is after a time of trying to communicate). Unless they are already anti-catholics, people will not believe a hot-headed maniac that’s just there to spit hate everywhere. That’s just not attractive.

God will judge them in the end, and it’s your job to make sure you do what you can to get them to see the light. Sometimes they refuse, that’s sad, but it’s not your fault. But it’s going to make it harder if you keep pushing.
If they were real prophets they would have grace on those who disagree with them.
People think Jesus wasn’t a jew? That’s just plain ridiculous. How could anyone think that?
Agh. Not my place, NoT my PLaCe.
 
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No I do not mean the one from the Carmelite sites that have that name as I am a Discalced carmelite Secular.
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Sorry spina! I didn’t realize you’re a Discalced Carmelite before I posted and of course you know the difference! It only caught my eye because Ocarm is one of my favorite websites and I thought it was probably a typo. No need for you to apologize. I didn’t want anyone to confuse the 2 websites.
 
Stick to the facts, correct any mistakes or misconceptions, and know when enough is enough - some people will not change their minds and it will only frustrate you. Pray for them, God is better at changing minds than us humans are 🙂 and think, it could be worse - think of the hate other groups have to deal with, like the Jewish people for example.
 
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it’s like trying to teach a pig to sing
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Actually pigs do sing, especially to their young. It’s an amazing sound to hear. And pigs are very easy to teach anything to ( for food). 🐖🐖🐖

I have never encountered the anti catholic described here, in real life. In this country’s anti Christian. Everyone is lumped together.

I would not waste my time with online sites where people are spewing forth. Best to help the faithful.
 
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I didnt make that one up. Author Robert Heinlein wrote, “Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.” It’s been a popular saying in US for decades, usually referring to wasting one’s time trying to get someone else to learn or do something that’s just not happening. And it’s probably already on many t shirts.

Perhaps Robert should have had more experience with pigs…

As for anti-Catholic bias in USA, I discovered it during my first semester at college decades ago when some fundie preaching on the street asked if I was Christian and I said I was Catholic and he said “that’s not Christian!” and began to yell at me and would not listen to any of my arguments that I was Christian. After that I never tried to talk with any evangelical about Catholicism again. My mother had told me growing up that a lot of people in US didn’t like Catholics but I hadn’t experienced it because we lived in a town with many, probably majority, Catholics. It really depends on where you grew up because as an adult I’ve been to towns especially in the American South where Catholics are the minority and the Baptists and evangelicals living there are critical of Catholics.
 
That’s fascinating. I love hearing of the vernacular of different countries.
 
The problem I find with the anti Catholic protestants is that even when you show them the truth in scripture they get very angry, they deny it. They have built so much around being anti catholic when its show to them they hate it. its more of a unwillingness to accept it as there has been a brainwashing with hate.

I have noticed more and more though protestants actually accepting Catholic things some even now believing the living precence some preaching confession of sorts even if it is to fellow Christians. Alot of stuff they have denied over the years they are finally discovering in scripture. Apostle Pauld does say about Traditions too.

The main problem is getting them to understand that the church was in operation for 100s of years before the new testament was even compiled by what we a pre schism Catholic and Orthodox Church known then as the church. So if you are to say the Catholic church is wrong, why would you believe their new Testament.
 
That is true the closest protestant church to mine is a high Anglican and it has a Catholic style mass, I have seen there vicar who is close friends with my priest and they go to each others masses and services for certain special occasions and have a close relationship. Protestantism is vary diverse and its hard put a round grouping of them.
 
Hi TigerLily-1 No need to be sorry you did not know and I was not clear concerning Carm. I got confused sometimes between the two in that the name is nearly the same. I do have O Carm and it is a great site! Thank you for pointing it out as i to do not want to confuse anyone as to the two sites one good and the other well we know what they are.
 
One thing with anti-Catholic people is that they like to quote and pick and choose Scripture verses out of context in order to prove their point and interpretations. Often when someone quotes a verse before and after the verse they quote which put a quite different meaning to their verse they quoted they refuse to listen or try to claim that it does not say that. If that dos not work they change the subject or ask a question as the answer to the question you asked.

The thing is that its very hard to have a civil conversation with them. For the most part they are not in any way interested in what you say to them other then to find ways to use what you tell them against you. Besides praying for them informing with the truth so that others reading it might come to the truth which in the end is all one can do.
 
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The thing is that its very hard to have a civil conversation with them. For the most part they are not in any way interested in what you say to them other then to find ways to use what you tell them against you.
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Yeah, this is why I just don’t bother when it’s someone on an evangelical kick. There are many other people including atheists and non-Christians who have a genuine interest in learning about someone else’s beliefs just because they are interested or want to understand better, without trying to prove anyone right or wrong. I have had many good discussions with open-minded people like that.
 
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Tis Bearself, I agree! Me I just like to inform so that those who are interested in knowing what Catholic’s believe and what the Catholic Church teaches and want to learn more about it is the way to go. its not about trying to prove anything or that someone is right or wrong, but the informing and allowing them to make their own minds up. I’m not trying to convert anyone just planting the seed so to speak. There is no sense in badgering or forcing someone to believe if they don’t want to. All one can do is tell the truth and then let them decide. When people are open minded and want a real civil conversation and are interested in learning, then one might see some common ground in which to have discourse.
 
WITH CHARITY [as it IS a WWJD]

With FACTS as the also is a WWJD

With a BIT humour to soften God;s Truths.

Blessings,
Partick
 
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