I do not know what secret you speak of, but if it is the Tridentine Mass, there are not that many people who attend it.
I think you’re being a bit disingenuous here PNewton. I think that you do know the secret he/she is addressing because it’s been discussed here ad infinatum. I, personnally was told from the pulpit 40 YRS. ago, that the Tridentine Mass
would no longer be celebrated ANYWHERE. That it had been. abrogated i.e.
abolished completely
We are talking about a minority of Catholics.
Our Church does not, nor has it ever, bowed to the majority in anything that concerns the Mass, the Sacrifice that Christ initiated & asked us to “do this in remembrance of Him”. It is only interested in the fact that the Mass pleases God, for Christ’s sacrifice was
neccessary to appease a God Who had been denied & betrayed. The Church is only interested in a Mass that represents ALL that we believe & have believed for 2,000 yrs. The Church is interested in a Mass that brings people closer to God. The TLM Mass is a propriating thing propitiating; conciliation: the propitiation of the wrathful gods.
The FACTS tell us that the Vatican II & the Novus Ordo Mass has failed in MANYareas.
This article tells about the state of the Catholic Church before & after the last 3 Councils. It was written on the 30TH “Birthday” of the Novus Ordo. Seems many knew then what some still will not accept. The calling of the Vatican Council II, was not because of heresy, corruption, etc. like the previous councils were:
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[SIGN] "What was the state of the Church prior to the Council, and what did participants in it expect its results to be? In Lent 1962, while still Archbishop Montini of Milan, the future Pope Paul VI said: “Today there are no errors in the Church, or scandals, or deviations, or abuses to correct.” In 1964, in his first encyclical he wrote: “At the present time it is no longer a matter of ridding the Church of this or that particular heresy or of certain specific disorders. Thanks be to God there are none in the Church.”
Two days before the Council opened on 11 October 1962, Cardinal Traglia, the Vicar of Rome said: “Never has the Catholic Church been so closely united around its head, never has it had a clergy so morally and intellectually exemplary as at present; nor is there any risk of a rupture in its organisation. A crisis in the Church is not what the Council has to deal with.”
Then later, In February 1981 the present Pope (John Paul II) summed up our situation very accurately in words which are still applicable in 1995:
"[W]e must admit realistically and with feelings of deep pain, that Christians today in large measure feel lost, confused, perplexed and even disappointed; ideas opposed to the truth which has been revealed and always taught are being scattered abroad in abundance; heresies in the full and proper sense of the word, have been spread in the area of dogma and morals, creating doubts, confusions and rebellions; the liturgy has been tampered with; immersed in an intellectual and moral relativism and therefore in permissiveness, Christians are tempted by atheism, agnosticism, vaguely moral enlightenment and a sociological Christianity devoid of defined dogmas or an objective morality."
In 1984 Cardinal Ratzinger (now Pope Benedict) said publicly that, on balance,
the period since the Council had been a decidedly negative one for the Catholic Church. In so doing, he was only echoing what** Pope Paul had said on 23 November 1973: “The opening to the world [he means the whole policy of aggiornamento or updating] became a veritable invasion of the Church by worldly thinking” and concludes, “We have perhaps been too weak and imprudent.”**
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It is amazing to me, how those who talk so much about obedience, are pretty much denying problems that 3 Popes have recognized & warned against.
