Harrods bars uniformed soldiers

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Including on Remembrance Day, a.k.a. British Veterans Day. Their pathetic, incredible explanation: The store has stood by their dress policy, saying: “There is a long-standing tradition at Harrods that would normally preclude customers who are wearing non-civilian attire from entering the store. “A lot of people assume that somebody in uniform is either there on official duty, which could cause them alarm, or they assume they’re a member of staff and ask them where the lavatories are and so on.”
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Well, I can put this store on my list of places to skip when I go to London!

I could understand them having a policy that said soldiers cannot be in their field uniform such as battle dress fatigues because that is kind of like going to a nice shop or restaurant in your mechanic’s overalls, fishing gear or something else rough and ready. It might just be too “casual” for an upscale shop and could be seen as an equivalent to a civlian dress code requiring shoes and a decent shirt. However, barring all uniforms is clearly motivated by something other than just a sense of decorum.
 
I could understand them having a policy that said soldiers cannot be in their field uniform such as battle dress fatigues because that is kind of like going to a nice shop or restaurant in your mechanic’s overalls, fishing gear or something else rough and ready.
I can agree about that. When I was in the Service, one didn’t go shopping in one’s fatigues, but today, I see lots of soldiers in the fatigues in department stores. It’s one thing to stop at a grocery on the way home to pick up a few items, but to go shopping in clothing used in the field? Have they no sense of dressing appropriately?

One ought to read Kipling’s poem “Tommy Atkins” to see that such an attitude goes back for more than a century.
 
I can agree about that. When I was in the Service, one didn’t go shopping in one’s fatigues, but today, I see lots of soldiers in the fatigues in department stores. It’s one thing to stop at a grocery on the way home to pick up a few items, but to go shopping in clothing used in the field? Have they no sense of dressing appropriately?
The Army Camouflage Uniform (ACU - they don’t call them fatigues anymore) is one of two uniforms primarily worn now by most GIs. My son, who is in a combat unit, only has two types of uniforms: the ACU and his dress greens. He will not wear his dress greens to go shopping in. I don’t know anyone in a combat unit that does. They save that uniform for “dress balls” and other formal occasions when they absolutely, positively have to wear it. It will be worse when they convert to the Army Service Uniform.

My son lived in ACUs in Iraq for one year, to him it is natural to wear them if he is to go anywhere in uniform.
One ought to read Kipling’s poem “Tommy Atkins” to see that such an attitude goes back for more than a century.
I went into a public-‘ouse to get a pint o’ beer,
The publican ‘e up an’ sez, “We serve no red-coats here.”
The girls be’ind the bar they laughed an’ giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an’ to myself sez I:
O it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, go away”;
But it’s “Thank you, Mister Atkins”, when the band begins to play,
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it’s “Thank you, Mister Atkins”, when the band begins to play.


I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but ‘adn’t none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-‘alls,
But when it comes to fightin’, Lord! they’ll shove me in the stalls!
For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, wait outside”;
But it’s “Special train for Atkins” when the trooper’s on the tide,
The troopship’s on the tide, my boys, the troopship’s on the tide,
O it’s “Special train for Atkins” when the trooper’s on the tide.
Yes, makin’ mock o’ uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an’ they’re starvation cheap;
An’ hustlin’ drunken soldiers when they’re goin’ large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin’ in full kit.
Then it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, 'ow’s yer soul?”
*
But it’s “Thin red line of 'eroes” when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it’s “Thin red line of 'eroes” when the drums begin to roll.*

Rest of the poem is here:
faxmentis.org/html/kipling.html
 
The Army Camouflage Uniform (ACU - they don’t call them fatigues anymore) is one of two uniforms primarily worn now by most GIs. My son, who is in a combat unit, only has two types of uniforms: the ACU and his dress greens. He will not wear his dress greens to go shopping in. I don’t know anyone in a combat unit that does. They save that uniform for “dress balls” and other formal occasions when they absolutely, positively have to wear it. It will be worse when they convert to the Army Service Uniform.

My son lived in ACUs in Iraq for one year, to him it is natural to wear them if he is to go anywhere in uniform.
so your only allowed to wear the uniform when you are serving in the Armed Services even during your time off?:confused:
 
I can agree about that. When I was in the Service, one didn’t go shopping in one’s fatigues, but today, I see lots of soldiers in the fatigues in department stores. It’s one thing to stop at a grocery on the way home to pick up a few items, but to go shopping in clothing used in the field? Have they no sense of dressing appropriately?

One ought to read Kipling’s poem “Tommy Atkins” to see that such an attitude goes back for more than a century.
We’ve always told our Airmen that they shouldn’t wear their BDU’s (We don’t have our ACU’s yet) in resteraunts or stores after duty hours. If you are in your blues - that is acceptable (not necesarrily dress blues).

If you are in your BDU’s you could go to luch in that uniform. After duty - you could go to the store on the way home to pick up a few items (unless you are in the comissary, or BX or somewhere on base). It is not acceptable to do your bulk shopping while in BDU’s off base.

I see Army soldiers all the time in their ACU’s in public - so I do not know their policies concerning uniform wear.
 
The Army Camouflage Uniform (ACU - they don’t call them fatigues anymore) is one of two uniforms primarily worn now by most GIs.
ACUs? Even the Army has gone PC.
He will not wear his dress greens to go shopping in. I don’t know anyone in a combat unit that does.
He’s in Iraq, isn’t he? Why would he wear his Class A uniform there?

I think the fatigues/ACU gives a slovenly appearance. I remember when going into the Pentagon or even into any office on a military post required the Class A uniform unless one was going into the field or doing fatigue duty.
My son lived in ACUs in Iraq for one year, to him it is natural to wear them if he is to go anywhere in uniform.
Well, it would be more natural for me to go about in chinos and an open shirt, but when I’m in court, I just naturally wear a suit and tie. Same for church.

Dress standards have fallen IMO.
 
ACUs? Even the Army has gone PC.
The Army loves acromyms.
He’s in Iraq, isn’t he? Why would he wear his Class A uniform there?
He just came back, and of course he wouldn’t
I think the fatigues/ACU gives a slovenly appearance. I remember when going into the Pentagon or even into any office on a military post required the Class A uniform unless one was going into the field or doing fatigue duty.
The Pentagon? The Pentagon is an office complex, it is not a normal military base.
Well, it would be more natural for me to go about in chinos and an open shirt, but when I’m in court, I just naturally wear a suit and tie. Same for church.
And if they went to court or church they wear class As.
Dress standards have fallen IMO.
The mall is not church. Standards are the same. Options for uniforming are just limited.
 
The Pentagon? The Pentagon is an office complex, it is not a normal military base.
It’s pretty military nontheless. We had to wear civilian clothes four days a week, but had to wear our uniforms on the fith day. Else the place would look like an armed camp and scare the civilians in Washington.
And if they went to court or church they wear class As.
Thank God for little favors.
 
As far as I know the Marine Corps bars Marines from going out and about in their camoflauge utility uniforms. The only exception is stopping for gas or emergencies.
You must wear either civilian attire or your service unifrom/dress delta’s(whatever the uniform of the day is)

Service Uniform(enlisted)
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Dress(enlisted)
http://www.marcorsyscom.usmc.mil/sites/mcub/images/PlateIV.jpg
Combat Utilities
http://www.marcorsyscom.usmc.mil/sites/mcub/PAGES/wpeC.jpg
These are but a few of the Marines’ billion uniform variations.😃
 
Until a few years back the British Armed forces were not allowed to wear their uniforms public whilst of duty. This was due to the IRA terror camapaign on mainland Britain.
 
We’ve always told our Airmen that they shouldn’t wear their BDU’s (We don’t have our ACU’s yet) in resteraunts or stores after duty hours. If you are in your blues - that is acceptable (not necesarrily dress blues).

If you are in your BDU’s you could go to luch in that uniform. After duty - you could go to the store on the way home to pick up a few items (unless you are in the comissary, or BX or somewhere on base). It is not acceptable to do your bulk shopping while in BDU’s off base.

I see Army soldiers all the time in their ACU’s in public - so I do not know their policies concerning uniform wear.
While i was stationed at Ft. Hood, I saw tons of soldiers out and about in there ACUs/BDUs. We might not be allowed to do it, but they dont enforce it.
 
While i was stationed at Ft. Hood, I saw tons of soldiers out and about in there ACUs/BDUs. We might not be allowed to do it, but they dont enforce it.
Same was true at Co. Springs (Ft. Carson) when I visited my son. I didn’t hear of a policy forbidding it.

Didn’t see anyone in class A greens or in the greens in B “style” walking around shopping centers off post though. Only people in class As were at the airport and they were greatly out numbered by people in ACU or BDU.
 
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