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64 posts int the thread and nobody has posted the Cardinal Ratzinger letter that supposedly condemns all Potter readers to hell.???
 
LittleFlower378 said:
Also not all, but some of the spells said in the series are real spells.
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Oh, for goodness sake!

In my 14+ years away from the Church, I practiced Wicca (among several other new age nonsense). While some of the women and men practiced “spell casting” as part of public and private rituals, they never spoke in fake Latin, preferring the vernacular – go figure. :rolleyes:

If you know anyone who actually practices Wicca, go ahead and ask THEM if they use spells from a children’s book series. Um, no.

By God’s grace, I was protected from the great evil and eternal harm my actions might have caused me (and my son!). I thank God for that. And I stay far away from anything that even hints of the attitudes and practices in which I once engaged.

That being said, I don’t live in constant fear that any story that has a witch is promoting Wicca. 🤷
 
LittleFlower378 said:
Don’t mess with Harry Potter. According to Fr.Chad Ripperger who is pretty spot on and an exorcist, the Harry Potter books use the names of real Demons. We do not want to provoke the real names of Demons unless we know what we are doing, and most do not. Also not all, but some of the spells said in the series are real spells. What Catholic in their right mind would want to read or say demon names and real spells. There are better books to read and movies to watch.

Here is Fr.Ripperger’s part one of two talk on demons, it is very good and early on he talks about Harry Potter.
youtube.com/watch?v=A5ZuP2itfy4

His talk on gaurdian angels is really good too.
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Do you agree with his condemnation of Yoga also?
 
You see what happened there – I finally jumped into the fray. 😃

I guess I can eat popcorn while typing… 🍿
 
LittleFlower378 said:
Don’t mess with Harry Potter. According to Fr.Chad Ripperger who is pretty spot on and an exorcist, the Harry Potter books use the names of real Demons. We do not want to provoke the real names of Demons unless we know what we are doing, and most do not. Also not all, but some of the spells said in the series are real spells. What Catholic in their right mind would want to read or say demon names and real spells. There are better books to read and movies to watch.

Here is Fr.Ripperger’s part one of two talk on demons, it is very good and early on he talks about Harry Potter.
youtube.com/watch?v=A5ZuP2itfy4

His talk on gaurdian angels is really good too.
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Have you read through the thread? What is your response, based on a careful reading of the text itself, to the points I and others have made? There are no demons or anything resembling demons anywhere in the series. The themes are explicitly Christian. The author, Rowling, who is Presbyterian, has acknowledged the Christian inspiration of much of the symbolism. By the 7th book the Gospel parallels are nearly as “in your face” as Narnia. As noted in other posts, there is nothing resembling the occult in the world of Harry Potter. The magic, like in Narnia or Lord of the Rings, is a natural talent some are born with. There’s no invocations or conjurings. It’s a major plot point that regular kids / people CAN’T do magic.
 
Gertabelle said:
You see what happened there – I finally jumped into the fray. 😃

I guess I can eat popcorn while typing… 🍿
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I swore I would never get involved in another Harry Potter thread but here I am? Got any extra popcorn
 
LittleFlower378 said:
Don’t mess with Harry Potter. According to Fr.Chad Ripperger who is pretty spot on and an exorcist, the Harry Potter books use the names of real Demons. We do not want to provoke the real names of Demons unless we know what we are doing, and most do not. Also not all, but some of the spells said in the series are real spells. What Catholic in their right mind would want to read or say demon names and real spells. There are better books to read and movies to watch.

Here is Fr.Ripperger’s part one of two talk on demons, it is very good and early on he talks about Harry Potter.
youtube.com/watch?v=A5ZuP2itfy4

His talk on gaurdian angels is really good too.
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Good post. It seems there is a number of highly qualified, holy priests who have warned against the grave dangers of Harry Potter. If Father Amorth AND Father Ripperger, two of today’s most respected and well-known exorcists, are sounding such serious warnings about Harry Potter, their claims shouldn’t be dismissed because we “just don’t see how HP could be harmful”. Remember, HP Apologists, that Satan is a deceiver. He wants to deceive you into keeping these books on your shelves and reading them to your children under the false pretense that they are “good stories, and hey, they even have some Christian themes”. Satan will often tell 99% truth in order to lower your guard that he may plant that small seed of dangerous curiosity.
 
Sarcelle said:
Calling Harry Potter a fluffed up overrated modern American fiction mean you have not even read the books. Harry Potter was written by a UK woman and is set in the UK.
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Meh, modern Western culture is so homogenized and sterile that there really isn’t a difference save for the names and places and maybe some unique terminology. When I said “American” I meant “modern Western”, because there is essentially no difference.
 
R_H_Benson said:
Good post. It seems there is a number of highly qualified, holy priests who have warned against the grave dangers of Harry Potter. If Father Amorth AND Father Ripperger, two of today’s most respected and well-known exorcists, are sounding such serious warnings about Harry Potter, their claims shouldn’t be dismissed because we “just don’t see how HP could be harmful”. Remember, HP Apologists, that Satan is a deceiver. He wants to deceive you into keeping these books on your shelves and reading them to your children under the false pretense that they are “good stories, and hey, they even have some Christian themes”. Satan will often tell 99% truth in order to lower your guard that he may plant that small seed of dangerous curiosity.
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Personally, I think it is far more dangerous to the soul to be seeking Satanic influences in every nook and cranny.

I have always found that the surest way to avoid evil is to keep my focus on Christ – to bind myself to Him and to His cross.
 
Gertabelle said:
Personally, I think it is far more dangerous to the soul to be seeking Satanic influences in every nook and cranny.

I have always found that the surest way to avoid evil is to keep my focus on Christ – to bind myself to Him and to His cross.
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I also see the wisdom in this.
I hate the tern “devil’s advocate” for much the same reason.
He doesn’t need one.
I don’t give the prince of lies ANY face time. I don’t think about him, but that doesn’t mean I don’t acknowledge he’s after my children’s souls. I just do my best not to give him a toe-hold.
 
Gertabelle said:
Personally, I think it is far more dangerous to the soul to be seeking Satanic influences in every nook and cranny.

I have always found that the surest way to avoid evil is to keep my focus on Christ – to bind myself to Him and to His cross.
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I agree. But in this particular situation multiple Catholic exorcists have condemned Harry Potter as dangerous. If you went to more than one doctor for a physical ailment and they all diagnosed you with the same thing, would you ignore their medical advice? Of course not. Why, then, do so many choose to ignore the diagnosis of exorcists on this matter?
 
Gertabelle said:
Personally, I think it is far more dangerous to the soul to be seeking Satanic influences in every nook and cranny.

I have always found that the surest way to avoid evil is to keep my focus on Christ – to bind myself to Him and to His cross.
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I hear what you are saying too, but As Father Ripperger says, “The devil is not under every nook, he is under every other nook!”
 
R_H_Benson said:
I agree. But in this particular situation multiple Catholic exorcists have condemned Harry Potter as dangerous. If you went to more than one doctor for a physical ailment and they all diagnosed you with the same thing, would you ignore their medical advice? Of course not. Why, then, do so many choose to ignore the diagnosis of exorcists on this matter?
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OK, so two exorcists have spoken out against HP.

Why aren’t the rest of them joining their voices in warning the masses?
Why is there no official warning from our bishops?

I’m sorry, but I’m not jumping on any one (or two) priest’s bandwagon for his pet project. I am a ROMAN Catholic – I follow the Magisterium. And where the Magisterium has not issued an official stance on something, we Catholics are free to use our own judgment, using actual official teaching as a guide.

If you fear demons and evil from a certain book or movie or food or toy or location on the planet – avoid it.

Just curious, but do you also avoid associating with people who are not living a devout Catholic life? Do you have any friendly relationships with people who are gay/lesbian? Atheist/Agnostic? Liberal? Feminist? New age practitioners? Do you fear that associating with such people might open a door to evil in your life?

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Gertabelle said:
OK, so two exorcists have spoken out against HP.

Why aren’t the rest of them joining their voices in warning the masses?
Why is there no official warning from our bishops?

I’m sorry, but I’m not jumping on any one (or two) priest’s bandwagon for his pet project. I am a ROMAN Catholic – I follow the Magisterium. And where the Magisterium has not issued an official stance on something, we Catholics are free to use our own judgment, using actual official teaching as a guide.

If you fear demons and evil from a certain book or movie or food or toy or location on the planet – avoid it.

Just curious, but do you also avoid associating with people who are not living a devout Catholic life? Do you have any friendly relationships with people who are gay/lesbian? Atheist/Agnostic? Liberal? Feminist? New age practitioners? Do you fear that associating with such people might open a door to evil in your life?

🤷
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Bold is totally off topic, deceptive, and judgemental.
 
LittleFlower378 said:
C’mon it has nothing to do with the subject of the morality of media and books.
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But it has everything to do with mindset and thought process.
The point is, we try to understand where each other is coming from here on CAF.
People get to ask questions. One doesn’t HAVE to answer. 🤷
 
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