Harsh Questions for Catholics and Christians

[inJESUS]

inJESUS:
Sì, il mio amico, ma … sono stato nella crisi totale spirituale,

normale…

recentemente. Non sono sicuro … che … che voglio abbandonare GesuChristu nella mia vida.

se lo abbandoni, lui non ti lascera mai…perche nessuno puo prendere quello que appartiene a Gesu…lui ha detto cosi…anch’io l’ho abandonato, ma lui mai e quando sono tornato a lui, mi ha apperto le mani seccome niente e’ successo perche lui lo sa, lo sa che siamo deboli e che ce il diabolo che ci prova per farci lasciare Gesu…ma non riesce se noi conosciamo Gesu’…sei il prodigal son…non ti preoccupare, Gesu non ti lascia mai e ti aspetta perche solo lui e’ La verita’ e la vita.

Ho bisogno di aiuto, aiuto spirituale. Non so che … che sono Musulmano.

musulmano quando ce Gesu? la verita’ e’ una…e ricordati del anti-Christo…Gesu ci ha parlato di lui, non sbagliare…

Sono molto confuso.

non ti preocupare…normale…

Il mio padre e nat a la , in Italia, molto vicino della citta di Isernia, en il regione di Molise. E molto rurale a la , dove e da, e …

si il sud dell’italia e’ rurale, ma bello per questo…ce ancora Dio e la famiglia…

il loro Cattolicismo è molto vecchio, e molto “rurale” nel suo stile.

che problema ce? tu segui Gesu o la gente?

Per esempio, pregano a un “Santa Liberata” a la , il loro “patroness” locale. ( È anche adorata nella Galizia, in Spagna).

se non ti piace piegare per l’aiuto di un santo, non farlo…non e; obbligatorio io sono Cattolico e prego soltanto a Dio pero ho avuto dell’esperienze con Santi…ti guiro, sono li e ci sentono e ci aiutano col permesso di Gesu’…niente senza Gesu’…

Mi dispiace molto per mi Italiano, io parlo il dialetto del Molisani / Abruzzese , non l’Italiano proprio. Ma spero che lei capisce.

si non ti preoccupare…

Forse lei pregherà per me?

e come no?

Ho bisogno dell’aiuto da quest’agonia mentale. Vado andare alla Chiesa, questa domenica, pregare. Grazie, e Dio benedici. ~Dino

pregui, e non dimenticare che Gesu to senta, sa cosa ce nel tuo cuore…non ti preoccupare…da a Gesu il tempo necessario per rispondere…lui sa il momento guisto, come ha fatto con me…e mi dispiace tutto il tempo che ho passato senza lui…ho perso tropo…ho perso la pace che solo Gesu da…la mia pace vi do, la mia pace vi lascio, non come il mondo vi da…non ce niente piu bello che Gesu…preguero per te e sono sicuro che se non hai lasciato Gesu e’ perche sei il suo God bless you

 

[Della]

I have wavered back and forth in my mind, thinking sometimes I should pursue Islam further, and other times that I should re-embrace (fully) my native Roman Catholicism. I’m in a lot of pain to tell you the truth. I need spiritual counseling or advice. How do you all keep your faith?? And …further… did the fact that I technically took the Muslim confession of faith, and have prayed (on and off) for the past three years or so , as a Muslim prays, in any way “annull” my original Catholic baptism?

Anyone here who can help?? A priest would be most appreciated, but if none is available any educated and sincere layperson who could help me I would really appreciate it.

Thank you.

Although I have never experienced your particular dilemma, I have had times of doubt and questioning, which is truly healthy, so don’t fret about that. God doesn’t want puppets on a string–he wants people to love him for himself. Which is why the Church teaches that it was love and love alone that prompted the Father to send us the Son to live among us, teach us, die for us and, yes, rise again for us–to give us the joy he, the Son, shares with the Father and the Holy Spirit.

Although Jesus is certainly a real person who existed in a definite time and place, he is also the Risen Christ who is indeed much more than an historical figure. He broke mere conventions and suffered greatly in order to bring us the truth. As C. S. Lewis put it Jesus was either a liar or a madman or who he said he was–the divine Son of God. It is up to us to answer Jesus’ most important question for our own lives: “Who do you say that I am?”

And the only way you could be formally considered a non-Catholic is if you had submitted a letter to your bishop declaring your non-belief and your conversion to Islam, so you are all right there. All you need do is go to confession to talk to your priest about it. I have no doubt he will be understanding and helpful.

God bless you in your journey of faith. I will and have been praying for you, please pray for me!

 

[inJESUS]

I was “seduced” by Islam, as I put it in an earlier post, during my time in the Arab world.

you can be seduced by many things, false things as well and Jesus said that false prophets will do wonders and satan will do his best to make you think that yu are not saved, to make you abbandon your salvation…thats very clear from the Bible…

Perhaps I've thought or probed too deeply into what some scholars call "the historical Jesus",  convincing myself for instance that since he was a devout Jew,   he would not want Gentiles worshiping him as God,  and that what we have here today (Catholicism),   should really be called "Paul-ianity"

hehe the pauline stuff is old but all wrong…and Jesus himself taught/helped and asked his disciples to speard the truth to all humanity…what Jesus did was ternal to all people…Jesus cannot be limited by any race, or culture…thats clear from his own words…He did not die to some people

I have been really really struggling lately.   I have wavered back and forth in my mind,   thinking sometimes I should pursue Islam further,  and other times that I should re-embrace (fully)  my native Roman Catholicism.

no one can take you from Jesus’ hands if you belong to His sheep…my sheep know me and i know them and nothing can snatch them off my hand satan is trying wth you, very normal…just like he did with Judas…and he tried with the prodigal son but lost and am sure he will lose with you…Jesus is in your heart , i can sense it and you will come back to Him as His prodigal son cuz Jesus came for the lost…

I’m in a lot of pain to tell you the truth. I need spiritual counseling or advice. How do you all keep your faith??

donno about the others…i personally have a very “special” relationship with Him

And …further… did the fact that I technically took the Muslim confession of faith, and have prayed (on and off) for the past three years or so , as a Muslim prays, in any way “annull” my original Catholic baptism?

donno the formal response to this but who cares about a shahada? surely not Jesus coz He is opening His hands for you with all your sins and mistakes

Anyone here who can help?? A priest would be most appreciated, but if none is available any educated and sincere layperson who could help me I would really appreciate it.

i’ll ask a priest tonight for you…

Thank you.

prego

 

[AquinaSavio]

dsaint:

I have been really really struggling lately. I have wavered back and forth in my mind, thinking sometimes I should pursue Islam further, and other times that I should re-embrace (fully) my native Roman Catholicism. I’m in a lot of pain to tell you the truth. I need spiritual counseling or advice. How do you all keep your faith?? And …further… did the fact that I technically took the Muslim confession of faith, and have prayed (on and off) for the past three years or so , as a Muslim prays, in any way “annull” my original Catholic baptism?

Anyone here who can help?? A priest would be most appreciated, but if none is available any educated and sincere layperson who could help me I would really appreciate it.

Thank you.

dsaint, I will pray for you so that you can find the truth throughout your spiritual struggles. Just keep persevering!

 

[inJESUS]

donno the formal response to this but who cares about a shahada? surely not Jesus coz He is opening His hands for you with all your sins and mistakes

i’ll ask a priest tonight for you…

i just asked a priest…my instinctive answer was correct, he said : you come back to Jesus Christ…but when i asked about details he said : You think deeply ( coz you can’t play with God) and you confess your mistake and if needed you get a spiritual guidance for you.That’s it , very easy, Jesus is waiting for you to come back with all your troubles and mistakes

 

[wcknight]

Our friend is renouncing Catholicism, and adopting Islam, BUT what he says is not even consistent with Islam. Muslims believe Jesus was the Messiah, and Jesus Himself proclaimed that Himself. That is why the Jewish leadership had Him crucified.

Plus Islam also acknowledges the virgin birth of Jesus as well. Although the claim He is merely a prophet, they do know He was the one and only Messiah. It is just that Messiah to them is far different from what Messiah means to us.

The last thing Jesus would do is to look for the Messiah because He knew He was already the fulfillment of those prophecies.

It is a shame when anyone brought up in the faith leaves, and even more sad when they do so with so many misconceptions about what his faith was or should have been about. IF you ever really research our faith you will find that much of what you think about our Church is false.

Your thoughts about the Church shows a basic lack of understanding about what we are all about. 8 years of study did not instill in you enough of the basics to stick. You seem to catch onto some of the rumors and critics about the Church or the Popes and make them reasons for leaving. It would be helpful to find out truth before you jump ship and land in the fire.

I would suggest reading up on the lives of some of the saints, what they went through and what they knew about Jesus. Padre Pio, St. Anthony would be good starts, also Pope Fiction would be helpful to clarify some of fog around papal authority.

 

[AquinaSavio]

wcknight:

Your thoughts about the Church shows a basic lack of understanding about what we are all about. 8 years of study did not instill in you enough of the basics to stick. You seem to catch onto some of the rumors and critics about the Church or the Popes and make them reasons for leaving. It would be helpful to find out truth before you jump ship and land in the fire.

I would suggest reading up on the lives of some of the saints, what they went through and what they knew about Jesus. Padre Pio, St. Anthony would be good starts, also Pope Fiction would be helpful to clarify some of fog around papal authority.

Remember, St. Augustine returned to Catholicism after 30 years of renouncing the Church. Ahh, the power of prayer!

Peace!

 

[JoeyWarren]

AquinaSavio:

Remember, St. Augustine returned to Catholicism after 30 years of renouncing the Church. Ahh, the power of prayer!

Peace!

 

[Tmaque]

dsaint reminds of myself a few years back. Caught up in what I believed to be cold hard logic, self righteous in my superior intellect, condescending towards those of real faith, with no room in my mind for the possibility of miracles. Except my religion of choice was athiesm rather than his particular odd version of Islam. He’s still young. Let the emptiness of a life without Christ beat on him for a few years. That hole in his heart may yet grow and call him back to Christ and his Church. Let’s all keep dsaint in our prayers. May God bless you dsaint.

 

[dsaint]

Let the emptiness of a life without Christ beat on him for a few years

TMaque: I don’t think it will really take that long. I’m already fairly well “beaten on” , believe me. A few years more of mental anguish like I’ve been going through lately, and I’d put a round in my brain first. Although I may not have come across as such in my previous posts , my posts from yesterday, I am already essentially defeated , a penitent. And I’m sorry to have come across as … well, as the way you described. The past few weeks have just been particularly rough , as far as this whole “personal spiritual crisis” of mine which has apparently just been “coming to a head”, as they say. I’ve felt like my mind’s been on fire. I feel like the “Anima Sola” on an old prayer card I have, which I had found once in my grandmother’s room after she passed. So, I’m going to go to Church , to Mass, this Sunday, and pray / meditate some more, and hope to begin healing. I just wanted to thank everyone here who responded kindly and thoughtfully and with genuinely Christian understanding , and who said they will pray for me. I will pray for and remember all of you as well.
Sinceramente,
~Dino

 

[The_Iambic_Pen]

May God bless you and guide you. I will certainly keep you in my prayers.

 

[AquinaSavio]

dsaint:

So, I’m going to go to Church , to Mass, this Sunday, and pray / meditate some more, and hope to begin healing.

:clapping: COOL!

 

[JoeyWarren]

Originally Posted by dsaint
So, I’m going to go to Church , to Mass, this Sunday, and pray / meditate some more, and hope to begin healing.

 

[Muslim]

dsaint:

Let the emptiness of a life without Christ beat on him for a few years

TMaque: I don’t think it will really take that long. I’m already fairly well “beaten on” , believe me. A few years more of mental anguish like I’ve been going through lately, and I’d put a round in my brain first. Although I may not have come across as such in my previous posts , my posts from yesterday, I am already essentially defeated , a penitent. And I’m sorry to have come across as … well, as the way you described. The past few weeks have just been particularly rough , as far as this whole “personal spiritual crisis” of mine which has apparently just been “coming to a head”, as they say. I’ve felt like my mind’s been on fire. I feel like the “Anima Sola” on an old prayer card I have, which I had found once in my grandmother’s room after she passed. So, I’m going to go to Church , to Mass, this Sunday, and pray / meditate some more, and hope to begin healing. I just wanted to thank everyone here who responded kindly and thoughtfully and with genuinely Christian understanding , and who said they will pray for me. I will pray for and remember all of you as well.
Sinceramente,
~Dino

hey whatevers your choice. if you want unbiased views, go look up an encyclopedia and read the Qu’ran and the Bible.

 

[Angel_Bradford]

Concentrate on your love of God. It’s not always easy to love Him. It certainly hasn’t always been easy for Him to love us. His love on the cross is the answer. Spend some time each day reflecting on the extent of what He was willing to endure out of love for you. Then ask Him to give you the strength to love him back from the cross you are enduring. You are in my prayers.

 

[inJESUS]

dsaint:

Let the emptiness of a life without Christ beat on him for a few years

TMaque: I don’t think it will really take that long. I’m already fairly well “beaten on” , believe me. A few years more of mental anguish like I’ve been going through lately, and I’d put a round in my brain first. Although I may not have come across as such in my previous posts , my posts from yesterday, I am already essentially defeated , a penitent. And I’m sorry to have come across as … well, as the way you described. The past few weeks have just been particularly rough , as far as this whole “personal spiritual crisis” of mine which has apparently just been “coming to a head”, as they say. I’ve felt like my mind’s been on fire. I feel like the “Anima Sola” on an old prayer card I have, which I had found once in my grandmother’s room after she passed. So, I’m going to go to Church , to Mass, this Sunday, and pray / meditate some more, and hope to begin healing. I just wanted to thank everyone here who responded kindly and thoughtfully and with genuinely Christian understanding , and who said they will pray for me. I will pray for and remember all of you as well.
Sinceramente,
~Dino

Jesus is the answer and you will know the answer cuz it istheir hidden in your heart…only then will you understand how easy was the question when you get to your aim, you forget the pain How beaitiful it is, after a very tiring day, to come back home…Jesus is the way …put all your burden under His feet coz you know what he promised : i relieve you and Jesus fulfills what He promises.

God bless you we’ll pray for you and pray for us …