Has anyone else been to a Latin Novus Ordo?

[Bookcat]

I don’t mean to be rude but the technicalities of the name aren’t really relevant. Everyone knows what is meant my Novus Ordo or Ordinary Form, whichever you choose to use.
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It not really about “techicalities” and the name use is not irrelevant.

Had the term entered in the past slipped into more mainstream use?

It unfortunately yes had become more common.

I note that the better term is “ordinary form” not only because “novus ordo” is not the term the Church uses…but also because a number of person use it in a *pejorative *way.

Thankfully with the terms being used by Pope Benedict XVI catching on…it is fading more from use.

 

[YoungTradCath]

No, I have never attended a Novus Ordo mass in Latin. Fat chance of that happening here, although I wish it would. Nearest every day EF parish is a diocesan one up about two hours North of here.

 

[ProVobis]

…are we still calling my 2006 Toyota the new Toyota???

Does it have nova tires?

Back to the OP, I’ve attended the Latin OF at St. John Cantius and a Latin OF at a Polish parish. Both excellent.

 

[liturgyluver]

Yes. All the sung Latin masses in this neck of the woods are OF. The EF and reserved for quieter and earlier masses.

 

[prettiefly]

Yes I have attended, I went once a month and sang in the choir. It is no longer offered, and I attend the Traditional Latin Mass now, so I would feel no need to attend.

 

[mfrances]

Does anyone know if there is any Latin OF Mass in (or near) NYC?

 

[Bookcat]

Does anyone know if there is any Latin OF Mass in (or near) NYC?

Contact Opus Dei there…I know they celebrate the Mass (OF) in Latin.

 

[Leon_Bloy]

Yes, I have been to several of them - they are pretty rare, though.

Some have said that there is less difference between a Latin Novus Ordo celebrated facing the altar, with Gregorian Chant, reverence, etc. versus the EF mass than there is between the Novus Ordo celebrated the way I just described versus the average Novus Ordo mass the way it is commonly celebrated in this country. I tend to agree.

 

[Old_Salt]

A while ago I had the luck to attend a Novus Ordo Mass that was in full Latin, aside from the readings in English. I get the impression these are very rare so I was just wondering if anyone else had ever been to one as well and if so what you thought of it.

I have always loved when Latin was used in the Mass but also love the Novus Ordo form so for me it was fantastic. I really wish it was offered in Latin more often, but this Mass was at a religious community I hope to join so I might get it every day some day.

As Vatican II called for the Pauline Missal Novus Ordo} to be normally offered in Latin, Ad Orientem with Gregorian Chant, it is very odd and sad that you rarely see one in most parishes.
If the mind of Paul the VI wanted this, why do we not see it regularly offered throughout the world?
It would be a great force for unity as oppossed to the “Babel” we hear in most parishes which is very disunified and not what “Sacrosanctum Concilium” of Vatican II called for.

That being said, there is a parish 60 miles from me that occasionaly offers the New Order Mass in Latin at 7am.
The days the SSPX and diocesan parishes do not offer the TLM, we try to get there.

Ad Orientem worship, Chant only, altar boys, communion exclusively on the tongue and all recieve kneeling.
St Josephs parish, Raleigh North Carolina.

 

[Old_Salt]

You mean the “ordinary form” of the Roman liturgy in Latin (Novus Ordo is not a term the Church uses…)

Yes.

At Steubenville we had them I think once a week at one point.

Pope Paul VI used the term “Novus Ordo” about the changed liturgy he promulgated.

 

[Old_Salt]

Well, it truly was “new” during the reign of Paul VI, but isn’t “Novus” any longer.

Yes it is new, when you take into account that well over 1200 years that the Mass in the Latin Rite remained relatively and organically unchanged.

The Novus Ordo has only been around since 1969.
Less than 45 years.
Very new.

 

[Bookcat]

Pope Paul VI used the term “Novus Ordo” about the changed liturgy he promulgated.

The Servant of God Pope Paul VI (in the one place I found it) was using it while using Latin …referring in Latin to the “new order” of the Mass …cause well he using Latin as the language of communication…it was not some " official term"…

So …

…are we still calling my 2006 Toyota the new Toyota???

No.

Are we going to call the New EnglishTranslation of the Ordinary Form the “New Translation” or as many are doing-- “the new Mass”… in 50 years?

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It is best to use the terms that Pope Benedict XVI used to distinguish the two forms of the Roman Liturgy

 

[Leon_Bloy]

The Servant of God Pope Paul VI (in the one place I found it) was using it while using Latin …referring in Latin to the “new order” of the Mass …cause well he using Latin as the language of communication…it was not some " official term"…

So …

…are we still calling my 2006 Toyota the new Toyota???

No.

Are we going to call the New EnglishTranslation of the Ordinary Form the “New Translation” or as many are doing-- “the new Mass”… in 50 years?

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It is best to use the terms that Pope Benedict XVI used to distinguish the two forms of the Roman Liturgy

My understanding is that “Novus Ordo” comes from the title page of the… er, Novus Ordo as issued by Paul VI.

The “Chiesa Nuova” (the original Oratory of St. Philip Neri) in Rome is still called that even though it’s around 400 years old…

 

[pnewton]

I have attended the regular Mass in Latin. We have a Mass in Latin every week, then we use mostly Latin on Holy Thursday.

 

[Bookcat]

My understanding is that “Novus Ordo” comes from the title page of the… er, Novus Ordo as issued by Paul VI.

Same response as above.

 

[Bookcat]

Non est Novus Ordo

Est: Forma Ordinaria

(Missali Romano a Summo Pontifice Paulo VI)

 

[Tridentinum]

The Servant of God Pope Paul VI (in the one place I found it) was using it while using Latin …referring in Latin to the “new order” of the Mass …cause well he using Latin as the language of communication…it was not some " official term"…

So …

…are we still calling my 2006 Toyota the new Toyota???

No.

Are we going to call the New EnglishTranslation of the Ordinary Form the “New Translation” or as many are doing-- “the new Mass”… in 50 years?

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It is best to use the terms that Pope Benedict XVI used to distinguish the two forms of the Roman Liturgy

Yes. I would probably wait 200, 300 years before ceasing to call the Novus Ordo Mass ‘new’. In the Church that would normally take decades, if not hundreds of years to change things, we saw the old Mass scratched, and replaced with a whole new Mass created from scratch by a Committee under the reign of Paul VI. Compare that with 1500+ years of organic development that is the Traditional Latin Mass.

 

[Bookcat]

Yes. I would probably wait 200, 300 years before ceasing to call the Novus Ordo Mass as ‘new’. In the Church that normally would take decades, if not hundreds of years to change things, we saw the old Mass scratched, and replaced with a whole new Mass created from scratch by a Committee under the reign of Paul VI. Compare that with 1500+ years of organic development that is the Traditional Latin Mass.

Except that the Church does not use that term. See Pope Benedict XVI for a selection of terms…

If you want Latin -fine.
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Forma Ordinaria*

 

[brigid12]

Yes, I have been lucky enough to go to a few latin Novus Ordos (or OFs). I thought they were the next best thing to the Traditional Latin Mass (or EF). I wish that most parishes had latin OFs available. They are both reverent and full of awe. They truly give dignified praise to Him.

 

[pnewton]

Yes. I would probably wait 200, 300 years before ceasing to call the Novus Ordo Mass ‘new’. In the Church that would normally take decades, if not hundreds of years to change things, we saw the old Mass scratched, and replaced with a whole new Mass created from scratch by a Committee under the reign of Paul VI. Compare that with 1500+ years of organic development that is the Traditional Latin Mass.

There would still be a few even then claiming that this was just a stage the Church is going through, not of the Holy Spirit, and echoing the same “made-from-scratch” conspiracy stuff. I will just call it the “Mass”. I might use the word current or regular in front of it, but as an adjective, not a title.