Has anyone here been excluded form their Children's Mormon Temple Wedding?

[Tracy10]

I agree that that is a sad and strange practice, especially considering Jesus himself allowed anyone to sit at his table. However, people do have the right to choose their own religions.

People join a specific religious group because the group they join is the one they believe is most in line with their own theories. In other words, your daughter chose to join that religion
'knowing her parents wouldn’t be permitted in the temple at her wedding." It’s not as though this was an unexpected surprise for her. Hard as it may be to take, her religion was more important to her than the fact that you could be in the temple at her wedding.

That means that knocking her church practices will neither draw her closer to you, nor change her church philosophy. Since neither of you is likely to win the other over to the other’s belief, my feeling is that the ONLY way to settle that is to have two separate weddings or celebrations.

If I were a parent and were funding any part of that wedding, my own take would be to suggest two weddings and fund only the part that I myself could attend. While that may sound selfish, I do believe in the fact that the buyer has the right to select what he or she is purchasing.

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Well said! Pictures, parties and fancy clothes do not make a wedding. Who cares if everyone gets dressed up pretty and tries to pretend everything is ok??? Like I mentioned earlier, if the LDS church wanted to make it “all about family” they should REQUIRE a chapel wedding prior to a temple sealing so that all family could participate - or at the very least , observe. The tears should be stemming from joy - not sorrow.

Annie

 

[AMDGtoo]

In other words, your daughter chose to join that religion
'knowing her parents wouldn’t be permitted in the temple at her wedding." It’s not as though this was an unexpected surprise for her.

Actually, my daughter didn’t know at first. It was an unexpected surprise for her.

 

[jbogedahl]

that’s right!! first the milk and then the meat.

They don’t really tell you the truth because they know that if people really knew the truth about the lds church, most people wont’convert

Now that’s just not true and you know it… what about the millions of people that do know “the truth” as you put it and still are steady and strong in the LDS faith? Me included? I find these types of remarks hateful and distasteful and unbecoming of a true Christian.



Jacob

 

[zaffiroborant]

that’s right!! first the milk and then the meat.

They don’t really tell you the truth because they know that if people really knew the truth about the lds church, most people wont’convert

Now that’s just not true and you know it… what about the millions of people that do know “the truth” as you put it and still are steady and strong in the LDS faith? Me included? I find these types of remarks hateful and distasteful and unbecoming of a true Christian.



Jacob

Milk before meat is true as is “answer the question they should have asked”. For heavens sake you people won’t even discuss the temple ceremonies with family members let alone investigators. Though after reading and hearing about it from former LDS I can understand why you might not want some of those indelicacies revealed.

 

[valient_Lucy]

That’s what bothers some people. Why not tell people that, if you convert to the LDS church, and get married in the Temple, that their family will not be permitted to attend the wedding, before a person is baptized?

Because the very act of excluding people from secret rituals is regarded as suspicious and would discourage people from joining.

You’re probably right. It’s a terrible thing to do though, to win converts through the practice of deception.

 

[why_me]

Milk before meat is true as is “answer the question they should have asked”. For heavens sake you people won’t even discuss the temple ceremonies with family members let alone investigators. Though after reading and hearing about it from former LDS I can understand why you might not want some of those indelicacies revealed.

There are temple preparation classes available.However, the temple ceremony in its detail will not be discussed. The lds consider the ceremony too sacred to discuss in such venues.

It has nothing to do with hiding the ceremony because it is detrimental for spiritual health. Meat is also taught in gospel doctrine classes. Anyone can ask a question in that class. Mormons have a concept: precept upon precept. In other words, one learns as on goes along.

The lds temple ceremony is a fine excuse for those members who leave the lds faith. However most have forgotten that the truthfulness of the lds church does not rest on the temple ceremony. Rather it rests on the book of mormon.

 

[why_me]

Actually, my daughter didn’t know at first. It was an unexpected surprise for her.

I think that this does happen and it should not be overlooked by the missionaries when the temple is discussed. But I can also understand why it happens.

However, at the end of the day, there will always be a surprise to any faith one joins. Everything cannot be covered for those who are investigating a faith or a religion.

For example: Saint John of the Cross was kidnapped by other friars who did not agree with him and his reformism. I believe that he was tortured by such friars. I could be wrong about this, but I think I remember correctly. How many catholics know that if true? That in their faith, friars persecuted other friars that did not agree with them?

From the wiki:

On the night of 3 to 4 December 1577, following his refusal to relocate after his superior’s orders and allegedly because of his attempts to reform life within the Carmelite order, he was taken prisoner by his superiors, and jailed in Toledo, where he was kept under a brutal regimen that included public lashing before the community at least weekly, and severe isolation in a tiny stifling cell barely large enough for his body. He managed to escape nine months later, on 15 August 1578.

 

[zaffiroborant]

I think that this does happen and it should not be overlooked by the missionaries when the temple is discussed. But I can also understand why it happens.

However, at the end of the day, there will always be a surprise to any faith one joins. Everything cannot be covered for those who are investigating a faith or a religion.

For example: Saint John of the Cross was kidnapped by other friars who did not agree with him and his reformism. I believe that he was tortured by such friars. I could be wrong about this, but I think I remember correctly. How many catholics know that if true? That in their faith, friars persecuted other friars that did not agree with them?

From the wiki:

On the night of 3 to 4 December 1577, following his refusal to relocate after his superior’s orders and allegedly because of his attempts to reform life within the Carmelite order, he was taken prisoner by his superiors, and jailed in Toledo, where he was kept under a brutal regimen that included public lashing before the community at least weekly, and severe isolation in a tiny stifling cell barely large enough for his body. He managed to escape nine months later, on 15 August 1578.

This comparison is ludicrous like comparing kiwi to moon rocks.

 

[AMDGtoo]

How many catholics know that if true? That in their faith, friars persecuted other friars that did not agree with them?

Err–what has that got to do with the core beliefs?

You know I can ask "how many Mormons know that they will always be considered “second class” unless they attend the Temple? (And yet they will virtually have to pay and pass a “worthiness” interview in order to get there.) And how many Mormon converts know that they will be forced to virtually become estranged from their birth families because those parents who raised them are now considered “an embarrassment” and not “worthy” to see their own child wed?

How many LDS missionaries are honest enough to say (as they knock on doors uninvited)–“Hi, we’re from the Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints and we have a very important message for you. We have a quota to make some gods and you’re on it! We want to “dunk” you and then make you pay 10% of any earnings plus monthly fast offerings and have you adhere to the Word of Wisdom, pass a ‘worthiness interview’ (because you aren’t, you know, until our untrained bishop says you are) to get a temple recommend. That will enable you to go to the temple so you can become a god (or can marry a god should you be female). Of course, your parents don’t really love you and want your best (and certainly don’t understand you like we do, so you need to ‘jettison’ them and treat them and your non-LDS family and friends as ‘outcasts’. Of course, since we consider everyone to be a missionary, we need your family’s genealogy so they can be Baptized for the Dead–that’s going to be your first mission. You want to be a god, don’t you?”