To be blind to the seriousness of one kind of sin while being alive to the seriousness of another is not that rare. To think the sins we wink at are less serious or even some kind of a virtue while being to be able to see clearly how awful the faults of others are? That is what natural morals are, before grace. People, we are like that.And my answer is that I am unsure how to relate to women who support abortion, and are yet against sexual harassment, no less I am unsure how to relate to men who make sexual derogatory remarks about women, but nonetheless themselves do not like to be mistreated (which can account for things like being bullied or even sexually harassed by other males.)
Based on the question, I can siphon my answer to a specific crowd of women. And therefore elaborate. Which I did.
First, I made a correlation. Second, no one has hijacked a thread. People replied, and gave responses based on my feedback on that correlation. And I then rep;lied to them, defending my point/proposition.Your view of the #metoo movement is too narrow. The woman who first coined the phrase did so as a response to the assault of a 13 year old girl, so why are you excluding children and men who are the victims of harrassment and assault? I don’t think you understand it and you’ve hijacked the thread for your own agenda. Your admission that you hadn’t heard of the movement before just confirms this.
I’m not saying it’s the case for everyone.There many people who find the strict rule about avoiding all sexual relations with people not their spouses to be anything but easy. I would say in the current social climate and for a person with a typical libido, it takes a great deal of prudence, not to mention an ability to avoid rationalizing and justifying oneself, to remain a virgin prior to marriage. Society assumes you will violate this precept and some will even accuse you of a sexual disorder if you do not.
I suspect that is mainly an internet thing.(Christian men seeking a virgin bride and even sometimes regardless of their own sexual past or mindset).
There are a lot of irrelevant correlations, and a lot of truths that aren’t particularly useful at the given time.People pursued to reply, and I gave defense to my argument. That’s all. Hijacking would had been mostly comments without responding to soneone’s reply. And to that, I replied to people who made replies to me than just plain comments I placed on here.
As for who or what I serve. That would be the Truth for a start. And calling into question the judgement of a particular group of person’s who fall under the topic of the thread, which thereby a correlation is made, still serves that (the truth.)
An extremely flimsy correlation that could be applied to almost all social movements. Also, I and most of the other anti-sexual harassment ladies on CAF are pro-life, so how the heck does that help us?First, I made a correlation. Second, no one has hijacked a thread. People replied, and gave responses based on my feedback on that correlation. And I then rep;lied to them, defending my point/proposition.
At the risk of feeding a sealion, I think you need to realize that women who have abortions largely come in two varieties:First, I made a correlation. Second, no one has hijacked a thread. People replied, and gave responses based on my feedback on that correlation. And I then rep;lied to them, defending my point/proposition.
I did also mention other comments regarding how media does affect men and their perception. In fact, those were my first comments. I referred to “Two and a Half Men”, and “How I Met Your Mother.” Very derogatory TV drama’s. And all it follows is the mainstream popularity among men to follow that way.
I even correlated that in further discussion with someone else on the thread how there are men who make derogatory sexual comments about women. And yes, that correlates on my view of both men and women.
People pursued to reply, and I gave defense to my argument. That’s all. Hijacking would had been mostly comments without responding to soneone’s reply. And to that, I replied to people who made replies to me than just plain comments I placed on here.
As for who or what I serve. That would be the Truth for a start. And calling into question the judgement of a particular group of person’s who fall under the topic of the thread, which thereby a correlation is made, still serves that (the truth.)
Right.We’re tired because it often seems like, as christian women, “BUT ABORTION!” is used as a counter for every single time we want to ask for decent treatment. As though unless we can convince our secular sisters (somehow the number of men who support abortion never comes up), nothing else regarding women’s rights can be taken at all seriously.
Consider that the saintlier ones include a lot of people that are no more likely to tell you they are virgins than they are to tell you they don’t gossip and do not cheat on their taxes. That does not mean it does not matter to them whether or not a prospective spouse values chastity or believes that sex before marriage is a mortal sin.I’m not saying it’s the case for everyone.
Just that I know a lot of people who were very proud of their chastity and modesty, but were cruel and given to gossip and other such things, because they could be justified as “Christian” behavior.
The idea that as many as a quarter do is still a shocking number, particularly considering how many use artificial contraceptives. This is considered a triumph of “freedom,” a “liberation.” It boggles the mind.Right.
And again, something like 3/4 of young American women are never going to have an abortion.
Oh, no, that’s fine. But I’m also considering that (especially as you get a touch older) someone may have a firm commitment to chastity currently, but not be a virgin. I’ve seen too many people who ask “is she a virgin” and not “what is her character like?”Consider that the saintlier ones include a lot of people that are no more likely to tell you they are virgins than they are to tell you they don’t gossip and do not cheat on their taxes. That does not mean it does not matter to them whether or not a prospective spouse values chastity or believes that sex before marriage is a mortal sin.
Well, yes. It only takes once to crash a plane, too. Sometimes, the crash is not a reflection on the pilot and sometimes, it is. I wouldn’t blame anyone who takes crashes of every kind into account before deciding who to pilot their life with.Remember, it only takes once to not be a virgin.
On an individual level, yes.The idea that as many as a quarter do is still a shocking number, particularly considering how many use artificial contraceptives. This is considered a triumph of “freedom,” a “liberation.” It boggles the mind.
Right. And (depending how you count) it doesn’t require consent, either.Oh, no, that’s fine. But I’m also considering that (especially as you get a touch older) someone may have a firm commitment to chastity currently, but not be a virgin. I’ve seen too many people who ask “is she a virgin” and not “what is her character like?”
Remember, it only takes once to not be a virgin.
Not at all.I don’t think that those who avoid marrying someone who has not had an extended period of chastity in adulthood are being too harsh or are being “judgmental.”
Right.It’s foolish to use chastity as the sole measure - and this goes even more so for women in more traditional environments that don’t spend a lot of time “in the world.”
I find it funny tbh. The common reason for that is that apparently non virgins have this baggage that can ruin a marriage later on. That may be true, but so can watching porn/masturbating. Which is something that they are likely to have struggled with in the past or even in the present.But I think guys who say “I want a virgin!” are being unreasonable if they themselves are not virginal
Exactly.I find it funny tbh. The common reason for that is that apparently non virgins have this baggage that can ruin a marriage later on. That may be true, but so can watching porn/masturbating. Which is something that they are likely to have struggled with in the past or even in the present.