Have no idea. That’s nothing though compared with the persecution China carries out.Does that mean Catholics are the new Jews? Or Catholics are the new African-Americans?
Christopher Dawson says we are living in an age "**described by the author of the Apocalypse **than with the age of St. Augustine. The world is strong and it has evil masters. But these masters are not vicious autocrats like Nero and Domitian. They are the engineers of the mechanism of world power: a mechanism that is more formidable than anything the ancient world knew, because it is not confined to external means, like the despotisms of the past, but uses all the resources of modern psychology to make the human soul the motor of its dynamic purpose."John 15:18 “If the world hates you,know that it has hated me before it hated you.”
I think, its going to get worst as time goes on.
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Uh, no. There is certainly anti-Catholic bias out there but it is so small compared to Anti-semitism and racism. If you look at the report (which is very interesting BTW) most religous hate crimes are vandalism or robbery, with little violence. There were 76 anti-catholic incidents only 9 of which involved violence. There are 69 Million Catholics in the US, so a little over one per million. There were 967 anti-jewish incidents, but only 80 with violence. There are about 4 million Jews in America so about 24 per million.Does that mean Catholics are the new Jews? Or Catholics are the new African-Americans?
True dat. But the Chinese aren’t targetting only the Catholics. They are equal opportunity persecutors.Have no idea. That’s nothing though compared with the persecution China carries out.
What do you mean by equal opportunity persecutors?True date. But the Chinese aren’t targeting only the Catholics. They are equal opportunity persecutors.
The Chinese only actually allow certain religions to even operate “officially,” of which Catholicism is one (as long as it is not the version that recognizes the Pope as the head of the Church). The Chinese government has no love for and has persecuted not only Catholics, but other Christians as well, and some of their more ferevent persecution has actually been against non-Christians.What do you mean by equal opportunity persecutors?
I see.The Chinese only actually allow certain religions to even operate “officially,” of which Catholicism is one (as long as it is not the version that recognizes the Pope as the head of the Church). The Chinese government has no love for and has persecuted not only Catholics, but other Christians as well, and some of their more ferevent persecution has actually been against non-Christians.
We should wish to eliminate all such persecution. Recognizing that other persecution exists in no way minimizes the persecution against Catholics and other Christians.
Two things have changed since Vatican II. When Catholicism relaxed its hostility toward the outside world, Protestants were quick to welcome ecumenism and overnight both were worshiping together, priests joined ministerial associations, etc. That cut down anti-Catholicism very rapidly.
Perhaps more important, it appears that Catholicism in Europe and USA (and Canada) has lost its grip on its people. The old fear was that the church controlled the thinking of the faithful. Today this isn't at all true. When the Pope speaks, most Catholics may pay some attention but not much. They have become cafeteria Catholics, picking and choosing what they will believe. This has further weakened the earlier fear and suspicion that Protestants and Jews had of Catholicism. They know now that the church cannot marshal much support to enforce it moral and political philosophy on the wider society.
So.For what it’s worth, I think anti-Catholicism is at a very low ebb. Before Vatican II Protestants and Jews both were very skeptical of Catholicism - not Catholics so much but Catholicism -because it seemed to be out of sinc with US democracy.
Who, what, when, where how?Several Popes had severely denounced democracy, including separation of church and state.
The Church is not a democracy.Catholicism appeared to be a holdover from medieval times built around a monarchy (Papacy) with divine rights.
Ecumenists all worship the same gods.When Catholicism relaxed its hostility toward the outside world, Protestants were quick to welcome ecumenism and overnight both were worshiping together, priests joined ministerial associations, etc. That cut down anti-Catholicism very rapidly.
But when it comes to Fr. Levis, Fr. John Trigilio and others they are very hostile to them.Oh, and let me add this. The most flagrant anti-Catholics seems to be (1) ex-Catholics, (2) hard-line secularists who oppose all religion and (3) a few fundamentalist Protestants who still view Catholicism as a pagan corruption of Christianity. Mainline Protestants generally are warm toward the cordial and friendly type of Catholicism represented by Fr. Richard McBrien, columnist, and others who think like he does.
Why should any group then get special protection against hate crimes? Why should blacks? Why should gays and lesbians?All crimes are of hatred. Why should we be concerned over the fact that they are against Catholics? It seems to me that we want some special protection against hate crimes while denying that to certain other groups.
Exactly my point. Either all should get protection or we do away with any hate crimes legislation and just treat crimes for what they are.Why should any group then get special protection against hate crimes? Why should blacks? Why should gays and lesbians?