Have any Non-Catholics here read the Catechism of the Catholic Church?

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If any Non-Catholic has read the Catechism of the Catholic Church please answer 2 questions.
  1. please tell us if you read it in it’s entirety or have read parts (if in part, which part(s))?
  2. and please say what you liked and disliked about its teachings
 
SingleMomMonica said:
If any Non-Catholic has read the Catechism of the Catholic Church please answer 2 questions.
  1. please tell us if you read it in it’s entirety or have read parts (if in part, which part(s))?
  2. and please say what you liked and disliked about its teachings
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Well, its been some time since I looked at it. I looked up only a few things. Most was about law, like the ten commandments, being born again, and maybe a few other things.

My overall oppinion is that it is poorly written. I also read John Hardon’s “catechism for adults”, and I found that one very well written.
 
geometer said:
Well, its been some time since I looked at it. I looked up only a few things. Most was about law, like the ten commandments, being born again, and maybe a few other things.

My overall oppinion is that it is poorly written. I also read John Hardon’s “catechism for adults”, and I found that one very well written.
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I’m very surprised that you found it poorly written as all of the Bishops by the guidance of the Holy Spirit who wrote the Catechism of the Catholic Church each had on average of 10 or more years of Post High School education! Any other Catholic Catechism written is required to be based off of it per the Magisterium of the Church.

I’m not familiar with the Catechism written by John Hardon you mention, but as long as he was given permission by the Magisterium to write it and wrote it based off of the Catechism of the Catholic Church it should be nearly as good!
 
SingleMomMonica said:
I’m not familiar with the Catechism written by John Hardon you mention, but as long as he was given permission by the Magisterium to write it and wrote it based off of the Catechism of the Catholic Church it should be nearly as good!
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He wrote his catechism many years before the new one was written.
 
I have the Catechism of the Catholic Church. I think that it is obvious that, as a Protestant, I do not agree with many things it says. However, when discussing matters about Church teachings I feel it only right to get my information from the source rather than from non-Catholics or Catholics who may not fully know the Church’s teachings.
 
geometer said:
other catechisms are perfectly good, like the Baltimore catechism, for instance…👍
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The Baltimore Catechism was written only for the Catholics in the United States and is not a Universal Catechism as is the Catechism of the Catholic Church, so there is some small value in it.

Plus keep in mind that the majority of Catholics who left the Catholic Church were once who were taught from the Baltimore Catechism as kids in their CCD classes. They grew up spiritually dead and left the Catholic Church as soon as they learned a little bit about the Bible or Jesus from a Christian of another Faith because they “never learned any thing about the Bible or Jesus as a Catholic”. If the Baltimore Catechism was soooo very good as very few, but a few, say then we wouldn’t have lost the majority of American Catholics who were educated by it.

The format of the Baltimore Catechism is in question/answer format. Very few people are able to actually focus on the truths written in it due to that terrible format which causes many to either fall asleep or zone out completely; however, for those few people who that format works for, there is the Compendium of the Catechism of the Catholic Church for those folks who want to know the teachings of the Universal Church rather than just a local jurisdiction version.
 
SyCarl said:
I have the Catechism of the Catholic Church. I think that it is obvious that, as a Protestant, I do not agree with many things it says. However, when discussing matters about Church teachings I feel it only right to get my information from the source rather than from non-Catholics or Catholics who may not fully know the Church’s teachings.
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That is very wise…get the information straight from the horse’s mouth so to speak 👍 Is there any part of it you particulary like or dislike? The format or a particular paragraph?
 
Eucharisted said:
Uhhh…

The Roman Catechism is still worth something, and it was made years before the CCC was. Age dose not destroy value.
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Is that out of print? I’ve worked with Catholic Publishing Companies that are faithful to the Magisterium of the Church and have never heard of that particular Catechism. If it’s not out of print, who publishes it?

The CCC is sufficient for learning the actual teachings of the Catholic Church because it is written by the Magisterium of the Church through Vatican II and is written for the Catholic Church entire, not just the Roman Rite, but all Rites and not just for one country, but for the entire world.

There truly is no reason, besides personal preference, to read any other Catechism besides the CCC as all others will fall short because they will be limited to a certain people or limited to a particular Rite.
 
SingleMomMonica said:
If any Non-Catholic has read the Catechism of the Catholic Church please answer 2 questions.
  1. please tell us if you read it in it’s entirety or have read parts (if in part, which part(s))?
  2. and please say what you liked and disliked about its teachings
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I have a copy and I look things up in it from time to time.
  1. Mostly, I’ve read the parts about mixed marriages, non-Catholic Christians, non-Christian Religions, Marian devotion and religious freedom.
  2. Like or dislike, my opinion really doesn’t matter. It’s a good resource for learning the Catholic Church’s official teachings. Of course, if I agreed with everything I’d want to be Catholic.
Have you (or any Catholics who will read this) ever read the Catechism of the Episcopal Church (found in the back of the 1979 Book of Common Prayer)?
 
geometer said:
Well, its been some time since I looked at it. I looked up only a few things. Most was about law, like the ten commandments, being born again, and maybe a few other things.

My overall oppinion is that it is poorly written. I also read John Hardon’s “catechism for adults”, and I found that one very well written.
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Anything of Father Hardon’s you can put under your pillow.😃 Do you need the CCC? pm if you do.

Pax,
David
 
SingleMomMonica said:
Is that out of print? I’ve worked with Catholic Publishing Companies that are faithful to the Magisterium of the Church and have never heard of that particular Catechism. If it’s not out of print, who publishes it?

The CCC is sufficient for learning the actual teachings of the Catholic Church because it is written by the Magisterium of the Church through Vatican II and is written for the Catholic Church entire, not just the Roman Rite, but all Rites and not just for one country, but for the entire world.

There truly is no reason, besides personal preference, to read any other Catechism besides the CCC as all others will fall short because they will be limited to a certain people or limited to a particular Rite.
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The Catechism of the Council of Trent should be in every serious Catholic’s home.🙂

Pax,
David
 
DCD said:
Anything of Father Hardon’s you can put under your pillow.😃 Do you need the CCC? pm if you do.

Pax,
David
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Well, its nice for you to offer, but I probably would not get much use from the catechism. I watch EWTN from time to time and have been watching the programs since 1996. The church is changing, or has made changes since I have been watching, and is moving further away from how I know God.

The church has a huge amount of history, and I do believe that is the most that it offers. It also seems at times to be filled with spiritual experimental efforts, which is nice, but the experiments always seem to wind down.

In His yeshua,

Vincent
 
SingleMomMonica said:
The Baltimore Catechism was written only for the Catholics in the United States and is not a Universal Catechism as is the Catechism of the Catholic Church, so there is some small value in it.

Plus keep in mind that the majority of Catholics who left the Catholic Church were once who were taught from the Baltimore Catechism as kids in their CCD classes. They grew up spiritually dead and left the Catholic Church as soon as they learned a little bit about the Bible or Jesus from a Christian of another Faith because they “never learned any thing about the Bible or Jesus as a Catholic”. If the Baltimore Catechism was soooo very good as very few, but a few, say then we wouldn’t have lost the majority of American Catholics who were educated by it.

The format of the Baltimore Catechism is in question/answer format. Very few people are able to actually focus on the truths written in it due to that terrible format which causes many to either fall asleep or zone out completely; however, for those few people who that format works for, there is the Compendium of the Catechism of the Catholic Church for those folks who want to know the teachings of the Universal Church rather than just a local jurisdiction version.
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If you catch me on a bad day,🙂 I would say the majority of Catholic’s who leave or have left The Church do so for reasons below the belt. I will speculate and say the majority of Catholic’s who have left Holy Mother Church did so in the 70’s and 80’s and 90’s. It is not the Baltimore Catechism that made them leave. I will speculate again and say it was poor catechisis. What about personal accountability? Very few fallen away Catholic’s want to admit this fact. At what point are we responsible for what we believe? It’s much easier to blame something else. The glory days of The Catholic Church in the U.S. some would say was in the 50’s. I would have to agree and they all came up on the Baltimore Catechism.

The Baltimore Catechism is a fine teaching tool. It is a great teaching tool in the hands of a faithful Catholic teacher. All of my sons are homeschooled and I use the BC. They will never leave The Holy Roman Catholic Church because of the Baltimore Catechism or the teacher.👍 Guaranteed:D

Pax,
David
 
geometer said:
Well, its nice for you to offer, but I probably would not get much use from the catechism. I watch EWTN from time to time and have been watching the programs since 1996. The church is changing, or has made changes since I have been watching, and is moving further away from how I know God.

The church has a huge amount of history, and I do believe that is the most that it offers. It also seems at times to be filled with spiritual experimental efforts, which is nice, but the experiments always seem to wind down.

In His yeshua,

Vincent
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If anything strikes your fancy let me know I have a good library. Is there anything specific that you want to look into within The Catholic Church?

Pax,
David
 
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