Have you accepted Jesus as YOUR personal Lord and Saviour???

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brkn1 said:
This post seems to indicate that you might be a Catholic, since it leans to the defense of the Catholic position. Could I ask if you are a Catholic? Thanks.
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How about I’ll send you a Catholic Bible and some Catechism tracts when I am.
 
Mayita30 said:
A lot of non-Catholics ask: Have you accepted Jesus as YOUR personal Lord and Savior? This question has quite irritated me for quite a while NOT because of the fact that Jesus is my saviour but it stresses that we OWN Jesus… I would like to believe that Jesus IS NOT OURS but WE BELONG TO JESUS!!!

This passage is taken from the bible and I hope all of you can meditate on it!!!

John 15:16
**You did not choose me, but I chose you **and appointed you to go and bear fruit–fruit that will last. Then the Father will give you whatever you ask in my name.
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Agree 100%.

The whole ‘personal Lord and Saviour’ idea grows out of American Protestantism and the so-called ‘evangelical’ movement, which emphasizes human work (i.e. the acceptance of Christ) rather than emphasizing the work of God.
 
Nominefili said:
Agree 100%.

The whole ‘personal Lord and Saviour’ idea grows out of American Protestantism and the so-called ‘evangelical’ movement, which emphasizes human work (i.e. the acceptance of Christ) rather than emphasizing the work of God.
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Yes indeed!
 
Nominefili said:
Agree 100%.

The whole ‘personal Lord and Saviour’ idea grows out of American Protestantism and the so-called ‘evangelical’ movement, which emphasizes human work (i.e. the acceptance of Christ) rather than emphasizing the work of God.
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A survey shows that 2 out of 5 children in Christian homes have accepted Bob the Tomato as their Lord and Savior.
 
Nominefili said:
The whole ‘personal Lord and Saviour’ idea grows out of American Protestantism and the so-called ‘evangelical’ movement, which emphasizes human work (i.e. the acceptance of Christ) rather than emphasizing the work of God.
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Balderdash ! Protestants are faith-ahollics, and work-averse.
Christ the Lord has been personal to the Christians since Day 1 @ Pentecost, when the Catholic Church got its birth/inspiration.
 
brb3 said:
Balderdash ! Protestants are faith-ahollics, and work-averse.
Christ the Lord has been personal to the Christians since Day 1 @ Pentecost, when the Catholic Church got its birth/inspiration.
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Paul was a Christian that always pointed to our salvation coming by our faith and not of works.
5 “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on Him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.”
6 " Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputed righteousness without works." (Romans 4:5-6)

Paul could never be called a “work-adverse” Christian.
 
tsering said:
How about I’ll send you a Catholic Bible and some Catechism tracts when I am.
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After looking up your profile, I see that I was correct about your leaning to the Catholic position.
Thanks for the offers, but I already have a Catholic Bible in my library along with several books by Catholic authors such as Ludwig Ott.
 
brb3 said:
Balderdash ! Protestants are faith-ahollics, and work-averse.
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From The Epitome of the Formula of Concord, part of the Lutheran Confessions:
  1. We believe, teach, and confess also that all men, but those especially who are born again and renewed by the Holy Ghost, are **bound to do good works. **
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9] 4. In this sense the words necessary, shall, and must are employed correctly and in a Christian manner also with respect to the regenerate, and in no way are contrary to the form of sound words and speech.
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10] 5. Nevertheless, by the words mentioned, necessitas, necessarium, necessity and necessary, if they be employed concerning the regenerate, not coercion, but only due obedience is to be understood, which the truly believing, so far as they are regenerate, render not from coercion or the driving of the Law, but from a voluntary spirit; because they are no more under the Law, but under grace, Rom. 6:14; 7:6; 8:14.
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11] 6. Accordingly, we also believe, teach, and confess that when it is said: The regenerate do good works from a free spirit, this is not to be understood as though it is at the option of the regenerate man to do or to forbear doing good when he wishes, and that he can nevertheless retain faith if he intentionally perseveres in sins.
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I can’t/won’t speak for other communions that are typically classified as Protestant, but Lutherans are bound by true obedience to the commands of the savior, to do good works.

Jon

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Anglicans are both commanded by God and enabled by Him to love both God and neighbor. Works of charity flow out of our faith, and though they are not optional, neither are they burdensome. As new creatures in Christ, we have to do them, we want to do them, and we necessarily do them.
 
D84 said:
I know, it’s from the 2nd page from the thread, but that’s seriously bugging me.
The second one looks to me as pretty much directly opposed to the catechism (the ‘presumption of salvation’ part)!
I have little contact with protestant christians - I’d like to know, is there really a group that goes around asking that, or was it just sarcasm?
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I had a friend that was a born again Christian and attended what is now referred to as a mega church (it was not affiliated with any one specific Protestant denomination). We met at a Bible study at the Protestant church.
Our kids were close in age and we lived close to each other and soon had a nice friendship.
Eventually, our friendsip began to be strained because I was not saved as a Catholic.
I told my friend that when I was about 8 years old I attended a Protestant Bible study at the home of a friend of my mother’s and that I had asked Jesus to come into my heart as my Lord and Savior. My friend looked at me and said 'You can’t be saved! You’re a Catholic!"
I laugh when I think about it now, but at the time I didn’t know what to say.
If right now, every Catholic in the world were to say, “Jesus, I love you and I want you to come into my heart as my Lord and Savior” would it change the way some Protestants view Catholics? It really is a beautiful thing to say to our Lord and doesn’t make us any less Catholic. I’m just not sure why saying those words means so much to some people…?
 
lax16 said:
I had a friend that was a born again Christian and attended what is now referred to as a mega church (it was not affiliated with any one specific Protestant denomination). We met at a Bible study at the Protestant church.
Our kids were close in age and we lived close to each other and soon had a nice friendship.
Eventually, our friendsip began to be strained because I was not saved as a Catholic.
I told my friend that when I was about 8 years old I attended a Protestant Bible study at the home of a friend of my mother’s and that I had asked Jesus to come into my heart as my Lord and Savior. My friend looked at me and said 'You can’t be saved! You’re a Catholic!"
I laugh when I think about it now, but at the time I didn’t know what to say.
If right now, every Catholic in the world were to say, “Jesus, I love you and I want you to come into my heart as my Lord and Savior” would it change the way some Protestants view Catholics? It really is a beautiful thing to say to our Lord and doesn’t make us any less Catholic. I’m just not sure why saying those words means so much to some people…?
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Just tell them that you’re very intimate with Jesus, in the Eucharist, in this way He does indwell you quite literally, right? In fact this is how He comes into us in His own words, right? Or say you’re called to honor and imitate Mary, who through her “yes” to God, took the Lord and Savior, literally, into her bosom. The Scriptures are also very clear that we should be indwelt and filled with the Spirit.

It sucks that people are using these statements as litmus tests for salvation. And I’m sorry for all who are bashing Catholics as not being saved because they aren’t hip on modern evangelical lingo.
 
Mayita30 said:
A lot of non-Catholics ask: Have you accepted Jesus as YOUR personal Lord and Savior? This question has quite irritated me for quite a while NOT because of the fact that Jesus is my saviour but it stresses that we OWN Jesus… I would like to believe that Jesus IS NOT OURS but WE BELONG TO JESUS!!!

This passage is taken from the bible and I hope all of you can meditate on it!!!

John 15:16
**You did not choose me, but I chose you **and appointed you to go and bear fruit–fruit that will last. Then the Father will give you whatever you ask in my name.
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Just tell them “Yes at every Mass” 🙂
 
tsering said:
Just tell them that you’re very intimate with Jesus, in the Eucharist, in this way He does indwell you quite literally, right? In fact this is how He comes into us in His own words, right? Or say you’re called to honor and imitate Mary, who through her “yes” to God, took the Lord and Savior, literally, into her bosom. The Scriptures are also very clear that we should be indwelt and filled with the Spirit.

It sucks that people are using these statements as litmus tests for salvation. And I’m sorry for all who are bashing Catholics as not being saved because they aren’t hip on modern evangelical lingo.
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Those are beautiful words - I just didn’t know how to respond 10 years ago!

I could have given a great answer if only I saw it coming…I was so surprised. The friendship actually ended over the fact that I am a Catholic. That’s okay, though, I always learn so much from non-Catholics. They have always challenged me to really think about why I am a Catholic and to do more studying.

For that, I have to thank the many Protestants I have known in my life.🙂
 
As a Catholic, I accepted Christ as my personal Savior when I made my First Holy Communion. Since that time, I continue to accept Christ as my personal Savior through the sacraments of reconciliation and the Eucharist.
 
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