Have you ever walked out of Mass?

[adopted_heir]

Poor selection of music is a weak reason (unless it’s blatantly secular and/or blasphemous; I would not be happy to hear The Rolling Stones ‘Sympathy for the Devil,’ for instance). That’s something you try to suffer through. If it is intolerable, discreetly stepping out to go to a different Mass (rather than ditching altogether, of course) is probably preferable to sitting there stewing and contributing to the profanation of the Mass.

But if there is ever any doubt that the consecration is invalid, that’s reasonable doubt that Jesus isn’t there anyway and you won’t be ‘walking out’ on Him. In that case it is our Catholic duty to not receive a false Eucharist (thereby participating in the error and propagating it), and write to the priest and his bishop about what’s going on there.

 

[TheRealJuliane]

We left before the dismissal this past Christmas. I have never done that before, no matter what, but this Mass had just been unbearable. Between the performance of all the Christmas songs by the contemporary choir before Mass (many of which are marginally appropriate and not reverent), the 2 young men in the front pew drinking Starbucks during the homily, the very l-o-n-g homily, the din of people chatting before and during Mass, the way too cheery and inappropriate post-communion song, and then finally the add-on of a visit from St. Nicholas (this was the vigil Mass and almost no children were even there), which is one of the staff who dresses up and then the pastor tells the story of St. Nicholas… we were looking at close to 2 hours by the time all was said and done. I just had to flee.

 

[adopted_heir]

I asked my husband; he said, “No, cuz then you can’t get in the priest’s face afterwards. Plus, how are they ever gonna know something was up?”

 

[TimothyH]

I would walk out if I walked into a Church with an upside down crucifix and a priest dressed in a black hooded robe, in the middle of the elevation.

I’d stay and pray the rosary.

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle…

Maybe come back next week with some friends. I know some guys who wear tuxedo’s and feathery hats and carry swords…

-Tim-

 

[ImmaculataFides]

We left before the dismissal this past Christmas. I have never done that before, no matter what, but this Mass had just been unbearable. Between the performance of all the Christmas songs by the contemporary choir before Mass (many of which are marginally appropriate and not reverent), the 2 young men in the front pew drinking Starbucks during the homily, the very l-o-n-g homily, the din of people chatting before and during Mass, the way too cheery and inappropriate post-communion song, and then finally the add-on of a visit from St. Nicholas (this was the vigil Mass and almost no children were even there), which is one of the staff who dresses up and then the pastor tells the story of St. Nicholas… we were looking at close to 2 hours by the time all was said and done. I just had to flee.

Sounds like hell on earth. Not an appropriate place for Christ to be made present on the altar.

I can understand your reasons!

 

[Fiasco]

Judas was the only disciple that walked out early on Jesus.

Once in a while, it may be appropriate for US to walk out on Judas.

…and write to the priest and his bishop about what’s going on there.

And hopefully, a few generations later some action will be taken.

 

[Fiasco]

So you would have been quite happy if lay MEN had been joining in?

Why single out women? I assume you did NOT mean you would have been happy with lay men. So why the need to specify women? Why not simply ‘lay people’ or ‘the laity’?

Probably because there are lots of very pushy feminists around. Men arent so likely to do it. Some women think they have the right......including certain types of nuns or ex-nuns. i realise its not PC to single out some women; but let`s call a spade a spade and stop pretending!

Judas was the only disciple that walked out early on Jesus.

And on the odd occasion, it may be appropriate for US to walk out on Judas.

…and write to the priest and his bishop about what’s going on there.

and hopefully, after a few generations some action will be taken.

The ranks of the TLM patrons are full of refugees from problem parishes.

 

[Mrs_Sally]

No, but I spoke with the pastor about that and the other music. He was very responsive, until the music director had a talk with him and let him know who was really in charge.

Pray for your priest. And for the music director. They both need it.

 

[Armor_of_Light]

I am fairly certain this is not something that the Church teaches. Have you ever read this or seen this in any Church document?

No. I would never walk out on Jesus. As someone already said, if a meeting was not actually Mass, that would be different.

…That is what I was referring to. Not the music or hand-holding.
I seem to recall you challenging me to find documentation before on another thread. Does the church need documentation to say that Peter Cottontail is not appropriate? My point was, that at some point, the mass would no longer be valid and we SHOULD walk out if the abuses were serious enough.

 

[mellowcalico]

I walked out twice.

Once it was Ash Wednesday. Where I grew up, they did distribution of Ashes, not a Mass. Where I had moved to, it was the opposite and I didn’t know it (they only do Mass on Ash Wednesday here). The only Mass I could make it to was 7:30 at night. I brought my daughter with me (she was an infant at the time. She usually went down at 8:00 and I really though distribution would be over with by then). It ended up being a full Mass–and longer than usual. I wasn’t “prepared” for that (didn’t have the stuff I would take to Mass to care for my daughter). I tried to stay for the Mass, but about halfway though she was so cranky and tired and I was starting to get frustrated and stressed, so I just left. We were really disruptive to everyone around us and I was so focused on her that I wasn’t even able to pay the least bit of attention to the Mass anyway. I felt bad about it though.

The other time I went to Mass on a Saturday night and it ended up being a special Hindu Mass (complete surprise since it wasn’t in the bulletin the week before). It was very pretty and very interesting, but tit was so different than what I knew (for example, we prayed the Lord’s Prayer at the very beginning of Mass. And there was so much in (I think) Hindu that I couldn’t understand and prayers I never heard before). The Mass also pushed 2 hours (and again, my daughter, now a toddler was with me and she was reaching her limits). I left after the Eucharist, but I have no idea how much longer the Mass lasted. Like I said, it was completely different than any Mass I was used to. It was interesting though (there were half a dozen Indian priests all in very bright costumes). If I was alone (didn’t have a toddler with me) I would have stayed until the end.

 

[mellowcalico]

I had this happen yesterday. My girlfriend invited me to a Confirmation Mass, we went in and started praying prior to Mass. That’s when the Choir (Worship Band) started practicing. So I had to excuse myself before Mass started. Thankfully they have a 24hr adoration Chapel where I was able to go for 2 hours.

I’ve had to stop praying the Rosary at Church, before Mass for this reason. The choir and all isn’t contemporary, but they start practicing right before Mass and I can’t concentrate for the Rosary, it’s too distracting. Sometimes they even want us to practice with them and then the people around me are singing too.

I can still pray the rosary if I come to Church at another time (like during confessions). I just can’t do it before Mass any more.

 

[paperwight66]

The other time I went to Mass on a Saturday night and it ended up being a special Hindu Mass (complete surprise since it wasn’t in the bulletin the week before). .

Ummm… it couldn’t have been a Hindu Mass. Hinduism is a separate religion, not a branch of Christianity/Catholicism.

Do you mean it was in one of the languages of the Indian subcontinent, - Gujerati or Urdu, for example - and perhaps using a Rite you were not familiar with (I believe there is one called the Malabar Rite) ?

I’ve just thought, perhaps is was ‘advertised’ as a Mass in Hindustani, another of the Indian subcontinent’s languages, and you misheard.

 

[mellowcalico]

I am sure you are right paperwight66. I was thinking in terms of language and culture (although I suppose Hindi with an “i” is the actual language, not Hindu–with the “u”). But it well could have been another language too. Like I said, nothing was written down (like an announcement or anything) so I wasn’t really sure what exactly was going on/being said. There was an announcement before Mass, and I probably misheard it as “Hindu.” Still, while it was different, it was very nice. I just wish I had known ahead of time so I could prepare (with a toddler, you have to prepare, lol).

Thanks for the clarification!

 

[adopted_heir]

Probably because there are lots of very pushy feminists around. Men arent so likely to do it. Some women think they have the right......including certain types of nuns or ex-nuns. i realise its not PC to single out some women; but let`s call a spade a spade and stop pretending!

And on the odd occasion, it may be appropriate for US to walk out on Judas.

and hopefully, after a few generations some action will be taken.

The ranks of the TLM patrons are full of refugees from problem parishes.

I agree with you about the nuns, for sure, and women ‘of a certain age,’ per my observation. Went to a Mass in Twentynine Palms, CA and was flabbergasted that [edited] nuns effectively set the priest aside for most of the Mass. I mean she did the prayers, the readings, the announcements, and he sat dejectedly off to the side until she let him start the Canon, and then took over after again. I was pretty shocked.

And yes, after attending several NO parishes for the first two (maybe three? I can’t remember) years of my being Catholic, I was wondering what the point of converting was. TLM fixed that.

Well said.

 

[masondoggy]

The only time I have ever (or would) left Mass early was either due to illness or an extremely unruly toddler/baby.

That said, I don’t think I’ve ever been to a Mass where anything inappropriate happened…that I can remember. Now if a woman got up and started attempting to do a Consecration or something, me and my kids would be outta there in no time flat.

 

[felsguy]

I agree with you about the nuns, for sure, and women ‘of a certain age,’ per my observation. Went to a Mass in Twentynine Palms, CA and was flabbergasted that one of those gray-haired man-nuns effectively set the priest aside for most of the Mass. I mean she did the prayers, the readings, the announcements, and he sat dejectedly off to the side until she let him start the Canon, and then took over after again. I was pretty shocked.

gray-haired man-nun??? Not familiar with the term. I probably should know better than to ask, but care to enlighten us?

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[adopted_heir]

gray-haired man-nun??? Not familiar with the term. I probably should know better than to ask, but care to enlighten us?

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Well it’s not officially endorsed, of course. It’s more descriptive. You see them, you think they’re someone’s grandmother, because there’s no habit–just the ubiquitous drab pantsuit, sometimes with a peace sign medallion or female symbol on a chain. Very rarely a cross or crucifix. Her hair is usually steel gray and chopped short in either the retired-man cut, or the ever-popular chicken-butt. Most commonly it’s the most masculine a woman can get her hair without a buzz. She leads the interfaith Taize drum circle and, while she maybe doesn’t openly call for a female priesthood, she all but effects it in her own parish. She can be recognized by the presence of an emasculated, downtrodden priest kept stripped of any power except the most restricted (Consecration) or token (referring couples to her for counseling).

 

[TrueLight]

I’d stay and pray the rosary.

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle…

Maybe come back next week with some friends. I know some guys who wear tuxedo’s and feathery hats and carry swords…

-Tim-

What am I saying? St Michael is a Patron Saint of mine!

 

[Annabelle_Marie]

I think your concentration may have been elsewhere when you were typing because I think you meant consecration.

Yes, that was a little levity for the thread…and I do mean little. Humor never hurts, right?

Now, back to the thread.

Dooh! Stupid auto correct

 

[TimothyH]

I walked out twice.

Once it was Ash Wednesday. Where I grew up, they did distribution of Ashes, not a Mass. Where I had moved to, it was the opposite and I didn’t know it (they only do Mass on Ash Wednesday here). The only Mass I could make it to was 7:30 at night. I brought my daughter with me (she was an infant at the time. She usually went down at 8:00 and I really though distribution would be over with by then). It ended up being a full Mass–and longer than usual. I wasn’t “prepared” for that (didn’t have the stuff I would take to Mass to care for my daughter). I tried to stay for the Mass, but about halfway though she was so cranky and tired and I was starting to get frustrated and stressed, so I just left. We were really disruptive to everyone around us and I was so focused on her that I wasn’t even able to pay the least bit of attention to the Mass anyway. I felt bad about it though.

The other time I went to Mass on a Saturday night and it ended up being a special Hindu Mass (complete surprise since it wasn’t in the bulletin the week before). It was very pretty and very interesting, but tit was so different than what I knew (for example, we prayed the Lord’s Prayer at the very beginning of Mass. And there was so much in (I think) Hindu that I couldn’t understand and prayers I never heard before). The Mass also pushed 2 hours (and again, my daughter, now a toddler was with me and she was reaching her limits). I left after the Eucharist, but I have no idea how much longer the Mass lasted. Like I said, it was completely different than any Mass I was used to. It was interesting though (there were half a dozen Indian priests all in very bright costumes). If I was alone (didn’t have a toddler with me) I would have stayed until the end.

Hindu is a religion. I’m sure it could not have been a “Hindu Mass”

What you saw was most probably a Divine Liturgy (Mass) of the Syrio Malabar Catholic Church.

One of the priests at our Roman Catholic Church was originally from the Syrio Malabar Catholic Church in India and celebrated the divine liturgy at our Parish just this Saturday.

-Tim-