Having car problems - missing mass?

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Thank you for coming to the rescue Decon! We appreciate it!!!
 
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Thanks so much. God bless you.
 
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I have no idea what you are arguing about so defensively.
This is not a personal issue.

But I WILL say again what I’ve already said many times here: God will be the judge.
God will judge the actions of ALL persons.

And with this in mind, I will now simply wish you a good day!
 
teresa63 said:
I have no idea what you are arguing about so defensively.
This is not a personal issue.

But I WILL say again what I’ve already said many times here: God will be the judge.
God will judge the actions of ALL persons.

And with this in mind, I will now simply wish you a good day!
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Fortunately for us, He has put on the Earth wise clergy who can guide us. We don’t need to guess at what God will judge. We know.
 
Clergy are people; and all people err. Only God is beyond err.
Being clergy doesn’t make a person infallible or impeccable. We know this well.

Having a degree in Catholic Theology and being a certified catechist, I would be glad to engage Deacon Jeff in discussion. My stance on the OP remains, however, that only God can know the heart of the person in question and therefore only God can know culpability.
 
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In the words of a former sig of a poster on the old CAF, disagreement does not imply disrespect.

I do agree with his and the vast majority view that the OP has nothing to worry about.
 
Xanthippe_Voorhees said:
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teresa63:
Clergy are people; and all people err. Only God is beyond err.
Being clergy doesn’t make a person infallible or impeccable. We know this well.

Having a degree in Catholic Theology and being a certified catechist, I would be glad to engage Deacon Jeff in discussion. My stance on the OP remains, however, that only God can know the heart of the person in question and therefore only God can know culpability.
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You do know that many of us have degrees and know what we are talking about, right?

A car breaking down is NOT about anything but unfortunate circumstances.

For someone who studied theology, I’m surprised you don’t recognize the power of ordained clergy to bind and loose.
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How many times will it be necessary for me to state that it will be up to God to judge sin, not me or anyone else here?

Further, one with a degree in Catholic Theology would know that only the second and third levels of ordination (priest and bishop) have the power “to bind and loose.”
 
teresa63 said:
How many times will it be necessary for me to state that it will be up to God to judge sin, not me or anyone else here?

Further, one with a degree in Catholic Theology would know that only the second and third levels of ordination (priest and bishop) have the power “to bind and loose.”
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Of course, but you stated “only God can judge” this is not true. Jesus gave power to Priests to do just that when it comes to what is and isn’t a sin. To a lesser degree decons are able to partake in this ability to spiritualy advise above the lay person due to the sacramental nature of their ordination.
 
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Only if public transit isn’t an option. If rural or even suburban may not be feasible or reasonable. But certainly would be for urban parishes in most medium-to-large cities. The OP didn’t specify his circumstances in that regard.
 
twf said:
Only if public transit isn’t an option. If rural or even suburban may not be feasible or reasonable. But certainly would be for urban parishes in most medium-to-large cities. The OP didn’t specify his circumstances in that regard.
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It’s Sunday night. Unless you’re in a major metro in the US public transit isn’t running.

Also–the OP said it’d cost him $40. Why don’t we take him at his word.
 
I’m not judging or criticizing. I just mentioned it because I find that a LOT of people who don’t regularly take transit don’t even consider it when they run out of other options. Just not on the radar of some people. Often it is an option.
 
twf said:
I’m not judging or criticizing. I just mentioned it because I find that a LOT of people who don’t regularly take transit don’t even consider it when they run out of other options. Just not on the radar of some people. Often it is an option.
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Unfortunately, it really isn’t an option for most Americans…it’s not their fault they don’t consider it.
 
Oh… is that what the OP meant? I understood that the car was out of operation and thus they couldn’t leave home. My bad.

If at home, with a car out of commission, I don’t think it’s legalism to plan your way to Mass via transit. I do it every Sunday. And every day to work. It’s not an option everywhere but I feel like I’m being attacked for even mentioning the possibility of considering public transit…
 
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twf said:
Oh… is that what the OP meant? I understood that the car was out of operation and thus they couldn’t leave home. My bad.

If at home, with a car out of commission, I don’t think it’s legalism to plan your way to Mass via transit. I do it every Sunday. And every day to work. It’s not an option everywhere but I feel like I’m being attacked for even mentioning the possibility of considering public transit…
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You’re not being attacked. It’s not a terrible idea–but I think there are a few things to consider. The OP is currently out of work. It’s Sunday night. One does NOT have to plan for all eventualities that might occur. That’s not required by the church.

I think what you’re feeling is the actually the irritation of people who are trying to defend the OP. Life happens. He intended to go. He couldn’t because of circumstances beyond his control. Like Deacon Jeff said—that’s all, end of story. No need to spend money he dosn’t really have.
 
Fair enough.
For the record I certainly wasn’t suggesting that someone should desperately look for transit or taxi options the moment their car breaks down on the highway. I had in mind a pre-meditated scenario.
Thankfully I’ve almost always had a parish within walking distance if push comes to shove. In larger cities that’s often the case, at least in urban cores. Sprawling suburban and country parishes obviously not.
 
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On a slightly different note, maybe for the future, it would be smart for all of us to have a plan b for getting to Mass. Maybe a friend with whom you could share a ride if needed?
I’m lucky that I live kitty-corner from my parish. I can see my kids school from most of the windows of my house. 😊 Our pastor always enjoys asking if we had bad traffic problems getting to Mass.
When we bought this house, my husband was a non-practicing Catholic. I had a Catholic fascination! At the time, there was a little old lady who went to daily Mass. I didn’t even know Catholics had Mass every day. It turns out that she was a mom of a priest. I still think of her, and hope I still live here when I am a little old lady who has time to go to daily Mass!
 
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