Having trouble forgiving boyfriend for abortions by his ex

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Hi, all! Not sure if this is the right forum, but it seems like the closest to post this question.

I’m widow, currently dating a man, 50. When I asked him if he had any children “out there,” he admitted to me when I asked that two of his ex-girlfriends had abortions.

The first was when he was in college, around the age of 19 (she was in her early 20s). She told him, he said, as she was heading over to clinic. While he was upset about the abortion, he had to admit that he was also somewhat relieved that she chose to have it.

The second was when he was in his late 20s. He lived with his girlfriend at the time and when she became pregnant she told him that she had been pregnant when she was younger and had a “difficult” time. He has no idea what that difficulty was, but I think she did not go to term and lost that baby. So she wanted an abortion. Because of her difficulty the first time, he supported her decision, and I believe he went with her to the clinic (he might have even taken her there).

I found this out probably about six to seven months into our own relationship. Honestly, I was devastated. I told him it was upsetting. He said he couldn’t change his past. He admitted to then being a very selfish person.

The man I know is very sweet and kind. He would never intentionally hurt anyone. He in fact is quite sensitive. He has a soft spot for ill children and gives when he can to St. Jude’s. While fairly religious as a child/teenager (he even went to a seminary high school), he became less so in his 20s. But then in his mid 30s-40s, while he was caring for his ill mother, he became a “born-again” Christian, as his mother was the same (she died when he was 43).

Then as he was just about to become 49, he met me, and I reintroduced him to Catholicism, Mass, and the joy of having Mary as our mother. I like to think that I helped to bring him back home. He goes with me to Mass every Sunday, and deeply respects my devotion to my faith and my Lord. I think it’s one of the reasons he loves me so much.

But I’m having a hard time, internally, forgiving him for the abortions. While I know the girlfriends made the decision and in many ways, he was a different man (maybe BOY would be the better word) back then, he doesn’t seem to have much remorse. Kind of a “it happened, what can I do” attitude. I guess it’s hard for me to tell if he’s truly sorry it happened. I haven’t had the guts to ask him straight out.

But I have so much sorrow and grief myself for those deaths, that I think I’m having trouble forgiving him now. I feel anger and resentment. And not knowing if he’s regretful is troublesome for me too.

At one time, overcome by grief at my own thoughts, I walked up to him and hugged him and said, “I’m so sorry about the loss of your babies.” The answer I got back was that he didn’t like to think about it.

So maybe, in my grief, I’m not being compassionate enough for the strong emotions he might be dealing with – perhaps so strong that he’s rather go into a little denial. Or perhaps he has learned how to truly forgive himself for what’s happen, and I’m misreading that as a lack of care about what happened. I suspect he’s asked God to forgive him, although I’m sure he hasn’t confessed it (I highly doubt that he’s been to a confessional since high school).

I want to let this resentment go. But I know I still feel it. If any of you can help me through this… even if it’s just (which isn’t just “just”) some prayers, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you!
 
Why don’t you ask him if he’s really sorry and what he thinks of abortion now? Some people are not very emotive about some things. Sounds like he DOES have some regret, since he doesn’t like to think about it. My personal belief is that its best to confront your demons (literal or figurative), not ignore them. But he has to be ready. It shouldn’t be forced.

Maybe a trip to the confessional is in order if it hasn’t happened already. Maybe some priestly counseling for both of you could help, too.
 
what I’ve learned from working with people in abortion situation is that the men often do feel helpless-- it’s “her right to choose” has been drummed into them for many years. They also grieve their lost fatherhood. And they don’t have permission to grieve it in our society.

So, when he says he doesn’t like to talk about it-- that is him telling you to leave it alone, it is painful.

Please let this go in your heart. It’s between him and God and he doesn’t need YOUR forgiveness. It sounds to me like you want him to say the words that he’s sorry about it so that YOU can forgive him. No. No. No.

He sounds like he has come around and reconciled with God. It sounds like he is a very wonderful person. Perhaps it would do him good to go on a post abortion retreat for men, to see that other men grieve and that it’s OK to verbalize it. BUT, it’s not your place to pry and push these things on him.

You must let this go. Or let him go. It’s going to have to be an act of your will. Jesus loves him as he is. You should too.
 
Hi, all! Not sure if this is the right forum, but it seems like the closest to post this question.

I’m widow, currently dating a man, 50. When I asked him if he had any children “out there,” he admitted to me when I asked that two of his ex-girlfriends had abortions.

The first was when he was in college, around the age of 19 (she was in her early 20s). She told him, he said, as she was heading over to clinic. While he was upset about the abortion, he had to admit that he was also somewhat relieved that she chose to have it.
This doesn’t sound particularly remorseful.
 
This doesn’t sound particularly remorseful.
This happened when he was 19. He’s 50 now. That’s 30 years. I sincerely hope you are not being judged by people when you are 50 on things you did when you were a teen. Because that humble pie might need a shovel.

Admitting to what he felt at the time isn’t wrong. It’s human. And honest. And he probably was relieved, and scared, and confused, and remorseful, and a whole lot of other things, especially if he wasn’t close to God or practicing any faith at the time.

I really hate the double standard on these boards of men vs women.
 
Longtime reader, first-time poster…

I’m at a bit of a loss to understand why the original poster thinks she needs to forgive this man for things that happened twenty and thirty years ago at a time when she didn’t know him - and also on the flip side of that question - why this man would need her forgiveness for these events that she was not part of.

As I read it, her issue is that this man is not expressing enough emotion for her taste about something that happened decades ago.
 
Hi, all! Not sure if this is the right forum, but it seems like the closest to post this question.

I’m widow, currently dating a man, 50. When I asked him if he had any children “out there,” he admitted to me when I asked that two of his ex-girlfriends had abortions.

The first was when he was in college, around the age of 19 (she was in her early 20s). She told him, he said, as she was heading over to clinic. While he was upset about the abortion, he had to admit that he was also somewhat relieved that she chose to have it.

The second was when he was in his late 20s. He lived with his girlfriend at the time and when she became pregnant she told him that she had been pregnant when she was younger and had a “difficult” time. He has no idea what that difficulty was, but I think she did not go to term and lost that baby. So she wanted an abortion. Because of her difficulty the first time, he supported her decision, and I believe he went with her to the clinic (he might have even taken her there).

I found this out probably about six to seven months into our own relationship. Honestly, I was devastated. I told him it was upsetting. He said he couldn’t change his past. He admitted to then being a very selfish person.

The man I know is very sweet and kind. He would never intentionally hurt anyone. He in fact is quite sensitive. He has a soft spot for ill children and gives when he can to St. Jude’s. While fairly religious as a child/teenager (he even went to a seminary high school), he became less so in his 20s. But then in his mid 30s-40s, while he was caring for his ill mother, he became a “born-again” Christian, as his mother was the same (she died when he was 43).

Then as he was just about to become 49, he met me, and I reintroduced him to Catholicism, Mass, and the joy of having Mary as our mother. I like to think that I helped to bring him back home. He goes with me to Mass every Sunday, and deeply respects my devotion to my faith and my Lord. I think it’s one of the reasons he loves me so much.

But I’m having a hard time, internally, forgiving him for the abortions. While I know the girlfriends made the decision and in many ways, he was a different man (maybe BOY would be the better word) back then, he doesn’t seem to have much remorse. Kind of a “it happened, what can I do” attitude. I guess it’s hard for me to tell if he’s truly sorry it happened. I haven’t had the guts to ask him straight out.

But I have so much sorrow and grief myself for those deaths, that I think I’m having trouble forgiving him now. I feel anger and resentment. And not knowing if he’s regretful is troublesome for me too.

At one time, overcome by grief at my own thoughts, I walked up to him and hugged him and said, “I’m so sorry about the loss of your babies.” The answer I got back was that he didn’t like to think about it.

So maybe, in my grief, I’m not being compassionate enough for the strong emotions he might be dealing with – perhaps so strong that he’s rather go into a little denial. Or perhaps he has learned how to truly forgive himself for what’s happen, and I’m misreading that as a lack of care about what happened. I suspect he’s asked God to forgive him, although I’m sure he hasn’t confessed it (I highly doubt that he’s been to a confessional since high school).

I want to let this resentment go. But I know I still feel it. If any of you can help me through this… even if it’s just (which isn’t just “just”) some prayers, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you!
Do you have any kids?
If this is a huge problem for you, perhaps moving on from the relationship would be best.
 
As I read it, her issue is that this man is not expressing enough emotion for her taste about something that happened decades ago.
Yes, this does seem to be about her, not him.

It is certainly big news that he was involved in two abortions, and I can understand why the idea of it would bother her. Fundamentally, she has to decide if she can be with a man who has this in his past or not.

The OP hasn’t shared much, so we have to broadly speculate which might not be fair to her. She has, after all, asked for prayer for overcoming these feelings she has about this part of his past.

Maybe subconsciously the OP is thinking about when or if others find out about his past and the need she feels to defend her choice to be with him.
 
This happened when he was 19. He’s 50 now. That’s 30 years. I sincerely hope you are not being judged by people when you are 50 on things you did when you were a teen. Because that humble pie might need a shovel.

Admitting to what he felt at the time isn’t wrong. It’s human. And honest. And he probably was relieved, and scared, and confused, and remorseful, and a whole lot of other things, especially if he wasn’t close to God or practicing any faith at the time.

I really hate the double standard on these boards of men vs women.
Depends on what it was. We are all judged for things we do past the age of reason.
If he had been in a prison since 19 for murder yeah, people would still judge and dicern dating. And rightly so. Societal circumstances lessen the issue but the reality is that if he described killing a newborn or helping with it, there would be more shock. Perhaps the op could look for someone who at 50, despite thier past, believes a child inside the womb and out are equal.
 
I don’t think anything in her post indicates he doesn’t.
I guess she could ask him.🤷

“Honey, what is the difference between murdering an infant and feeling relief and having an abortion and feeling relief”

That ought to produce a difinitive answer!

After reading the OP,s other posts it appears, she has children from a prior marriage that was annulled before she was widowed.
People’s pasts can be complicated, especially at 50, perhaps this is a glass house situation, or perhaps not. What I will never understand is why people can’t just communicate. Ask questions and answer them. Then prudent decisions can be made on whom to date.🤷
 
It isn’t my job to forgive someone their past sins, or to decide if they have repented enough. That is between him and God and those women and God. I would pray for him regularly, pray for them once, and then excuse myself from their business.
 
what I’ve learned from working with people in abortion situation is that the men often do feel helpless-- it’s “her right to choose” has been drummed into them for many years. They also grieve their lost fatherhood. And they don’t have permission to grieve it in our society.

So, when he says he doesn’t like to talk about it-- that is him telling you to leave it alone, it is painful.

Please let this go in your heart. It’s between him and God and he doesn’t need YOUR forgiveness. It sounds to me like you want him to say the words that he’s sorry about it so that YOU can forgive him. No. No. No.

He sounds like he has come around and reconciled with God. It sounds like he is a very wonderful person. Perhaps it would do him good to go on a post abortion retreat for men, to see that other men grieve and that it’s OK to verbalize it. BUT, it’s not your place to pry and push these things on him.

You must let this go. Or let him go. It’s going to have to be an act of your will. Jesus loves him as he is. You should too.
CAF post of the day. Bravo! :clapping::clapping::clapping:
 
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