Head covering in the Chaldean Catholic church?

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I am a woman and I cover my head when in mass or prayer. I was told by one priest that I was not allowed to do so bc it distracted others who were present in mass. Needless to say, we left that parish post haste.

I was always curious as to why the veiling of women stopped. On my journey into the Church (4 years ago this Easter!!) I found this

fisheaters.com/theveil.html

I hope that helps all women who read this.

Pax vobiscum
 
I am a cradle Catholic, converted to Orthodoxy and now coming home to the Byzantine Catholic church. 🙂 In my former OCA parish, only a couple of women, the older ones, ever covered their heads. Now, our Byzantine church is a very small one–10 families, tops–and nobody covers their heads. There were two visiting ladies with mantillas one weekend, but I think they were Roman Catholic, because they looked bewildered at all the bowing going on. 😉

I am constantly feeling called to cover my head in church. My husband wants me to wait until we’ve been at this church a while, lest we seem to be the type of revert who is “more Catholic than thou” or something like that. So i’m waiting.

Our priest is a Fransciscan monk, and wears a monk’s hat, but does take it off at certain times during the Liturgy. I haven’t kept a close eye on this, but it seems to be during the Transubstantiation and Communion.
 
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Our priest is a Fransciscan monk, and wears a monk’s hat,**

It’s called a klobuk. The rules for covering and uncovering vary whether inside the altar or outside, and from place to place.
 
bpbasilphx said:
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Our priest is a Fransciscan monk, and wears a monk’s hat,**

It’s called a klobuk. The rules for covering and uncovering vary whether inside the altar or outside, and from place to place.
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Thank you! I was wondering what it was called. 🙂
 
A head covering is a mark of holiness. At this is how it was explained to me. Women should wear head coverings in Church because they are holy by the nature of their ability to give life. Clerics are holy in that they give spiritual life. By holy I mean set apart not more rightous, or better christians, they are simply set apart. When Moses came down from Mt. Siani after communing with God he wore a head covering his time with the Lord mad him close to God in a unique way so because he had been set apart from everyone else he wore a head covering to represent that holiness.
 
Does the Chaldean Catholic Church have a website. I would like to find a parish.
 
I am a Chaldean female and I do not wear a head covering in church. The older women wear it, the priest encourages it, but it’s not required.

How was your experience in our church? Which one did you go to?
 
Cktravel:

I wasn’t able to go, but I will be going next week. I’m going to St. Thomas Chaldean Catholic church in West Bloomfield.
The little boy I take care of goes to school out there so while he’s at school I’m gonna go to church. 🙂
I have a lot of Chaldean friends I love the culture and people, and really want to check out the church.
Where do you go?
 
I go to St George in Shelby Twp. I teach Catechism there. I also go to ECRC (Eastern Catholic Re-evangelization Center) which is closely connected with St Thomas.

Let us know what you think of our mass!
 
Couple more questions:
  1. How long does daily mass usually run?
  2. Will I be completely lost compared to a Latin rite mass?
 
It’s about an hour.

If you’re going to the English mass, you won’t be lost. We use the same missle for all masses and all the verbiage is documented. Even the chanting that is done in Chaldean is translated in English.
 
cktravel said:
It’s about an hour.

If you’re going to the English mass, you won’t be lost. We use the same missle for all masses and all the verbiage is documented. Even the chanting that is done in Chaldean is translated in English.
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I always find the chanting odd when it’s in English, however I guess even the Roman Church at one point was able to understand the Latin chant. I just like it in a foreign language, it makes it sound more mysterious.
 
Dear HoldenCaulfield,
holdencaulfield said:
I just like it in a foreign language, it makes it sound more mysterious.
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I kind of understand what you mean, but the need to understand what is chanted surpasses the need for the ambiance. After all, alot of the prayers and chants in a liturgy were initially made to convey a pedagogical value as well. Although a few of us would love to learn the language {Latin, Aramaic, Church Slavonic, etc.} and can spend the time and the effort to do so, it is important for the many to understand.

Of course, the job of a good translator is to convey the meaning of the chants while keeping the artistic value of it as well. I mean, if we were to throw the holiest of concepts from these traditional chants into the rythm or style of Micky Mouse Song or something even more awkward, then I’d be quite irrate myself.

😊 personal pet peeve topic. Sorry…

Oh… by the way… I love CitR by JD Salinger… 🙂

In Him,
Anthony
 
antgaria said:
I kind of understand what you mean, but the need to understand what is chanted surpasses the need for the ambiance. After all, alot of the prayers and chants in a liturgy were initially made to convey a pedagogical value as well. Although a few of us would love to learn the language {Latin, Aramaic, Church Slavonic, etc.} and can spend the time and the effort to do so, it is important for the many to understand.
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Yes as do I.
Oh… by the way… I love CitR by JD Salinger… 🙂
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It is one of my favorite books.
 
Sorry, maybe I mis-stated my comment. Most of the chanting is done in Chaldean. But the text in the missle is in both Chaldean and English.

The choir usually sings in Chaldean as well, even in the English mass.
 
Hi Cktravel,

Welcome to the forums.
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The choir usually sings in Chaldean as well, even in the English mass.
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I can understand that about keeping parts in the original language… I think I have to also say sorry to all, and I mispoke as well earlier. I guess I really should have added… the job of a good translator was stated, but i forgot to also state the hard job of the Church hierarchy to figure out what to keep in the traditional language to give flavor and identity to the Liturgy, which kind of goes back to what Holden was refering to.

I think I should be more careful when I don’t keep my pet-peeves and rants to myself… I know… :banghead: new to forums… 😊

Peace,
Anthony
 
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