Head Of U.S Bishops’ Pro-Life Activity: No Communion For Pro-Abortion Politicians

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That is a broad statement that smacks of hate and mean-spiritedness.
I disagree with progressive ideas about abortion and other subjects, but I judge them not. You might try a more Christian way of thinking.
 
Most people who commit crimes, especially violent crimes, do not think about the consequences. Therefore your belief that a death sentence will prevent crime by a criminal in prison is a bit ridiculous.
If you favor killing prisoner for crime commuted in pridon, so be it, but call it murder, not punishment.
 
Lol no matter how charitable one is in proclaiming the Truth of Jesus Christ and His Church they will be called hater, intolerant, homophobic and any other name that seeks to bury the Truth in relatavism. Much like you have.
 
No matter of truth can bury bigotry, racism, and other non-qualities you seem to spout. LOL
 
yankeesouth said:
There can be no compromise with the liberals.
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From the USCCB voter’s guide.
Sometimes morally flawed laws already exist. In this situation, the process of framing
legislation to protect life is subject to prudential judgment and “the art of the possible.” At time this process may restore justice only partially or gradually. For example, St. John Paul II taught that when a government official who fully opposes abortion cannot succeed in completely overturning a pro-abortion law, he or she may work to improve protection for unborn human life, “limiting the harm done by such a law” and lessening its negative impact as much as possible (Evangelium Vitae, no. 73). Such incremental improvements in the law are acceptable as steps toward the full restoration of justice.
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Until such a time compromise re-enters politics, we will be an unstable, double-minded nation, subject to continuous decline, as each election dismisses treaties, roll-back laws, and entrenches inflexible positions.
 
People who favor the death penalty will always come up with a scenario to justify the use of the death penalty.
Those who support abortion are good at justifying the need for abortions.
The thing about murder is that no matter how you spin it, killing is killing.
Self defense is the only Christian justification for the use of deadly force.
 
pnewton said:
Until such a time compromise re-enters politics, we will be an unstable, double-minded nation, subject to continuous decline, as each election dismisses treaties, roll-back laws, and entrenches inflexible positions.
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Yes…tell that to the liberal democratic party political ideology that lays waste to the life teachings of Jesus…the five Catholic non negotiables. The same political ideology whose leaders say there is no room in that ideology for pro life politicians.
 
yankeesouth said:
the life teachings of Jesus…the five Catholic non negotiables
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These two items are nothing like each other. You can not put Jesus down as the author of this list of five non-negotiables, nor was the Catholic Church their author. Jesus had his own list of what was not optional for Heaven:

…for I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.

The USCCB mentions three things, by the way; abortion, euthanasia, human cloning. They do not call them non-negotiables, but reasons that cannot be your motive for supporting any candidate.
 
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pnewton said:
Jesus had his own list of what was not optional for Heaven:
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Yes I know…

Good teacher what must I do to inherit eternal life

You know the commandments: ‘Do not kill, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and mother.’”
The USCCB mentions three things, by the way; abortion, euthanasia, human cloning. They do not call them non-negotiables, but reasons that cannot be your motive for supporting any candidate.
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That sounds like non negotiable to me.

I would think the other two… fetal stem cell research and support of homosexual marriage would fall into that category also.
 
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Really ?

Putting a convicted criminal to death won’t stop him from killing again ?

OK, prove that theory.

Jim
 
No. The threat of the death penalty will not deter those who will commit a violent crime in prison.
Therefore, putting some one to death is done solely as a punishment. In other words, murder.
 
Well of course it will deter the one who.is executed, which is why the poster was talking about putting to death those in prison who keep killing or getting others to kill for.them even while in prison. If impriaonment won’t stop.them killing or having others kiled for.them, then what other option is there?
 
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Doesn’t murder require taking the life of an innocent?

I disagree with our current implementation of the death penalty (and would probably opt to ban it if I could), but it is not the same as murdering the unborn in the womb.
 
I understand what you are saying, but the commandment does not say Though Shalt No Kill, except for those horrible people who deserve that fate. The commandment is Thou Shalt No Kill.
 
And sometimes an incredibly cruel and inhumane one given the terrible efects it can have on body and mind. Up to and including suicide.
 
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So better to kill someone then to force them into solitary confinement?
Jim and others on this message board want death for those who commit violent acts in prison. The alternative is solitary confinement.
 
It would not be done for the purpose of punishing the convict, but protecting those working in the prison, along with that of other prisoners and those on the outside.

Once again, I’m not advocating "capital punishment’ in general, but only on rare occasions where a convicted murder is a danger to everyone around him. You can not put a person in solitary confinement for life, it would be more inhumane than death,

Also, I know that capital punishment isn’t a deterrent on the outside, but it’s a stop loss action in preventing more murders by those already in prison.

Jim,
 
And we are to follow Scripture in light of the teachings of the Church, not personal interpretation of what we think God’s law should or should not be.
 
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