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LittleSoldier
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Not my point. Please re-read my post.
Not my point. Please re-read my post.
Not my point. Please re-read my post.
Absolutely not my point. Please re-read my post.
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LittleSoldier
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I’m sorry, I meant to add this to my previous reply.
If no one is ever turned away from the ER why was I turned away?
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chichizola
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I think that our constitution should take its place below God’s Law.
Live Jesus!
May God Bless you.
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DanteAlighieri
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Please demonstrate (and cite your sources) how Pathia would be better off in any third-world country’s medical system.
Peace,
Dante
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wabrams
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I’ve re-read your post 3 or 4 times and it seems your point is that if people have insurance then they can get preventative care. I’m saying that you don’t need insurance to get preventative care b/c it is cheap. If that wasn’t your point then please tell me what it is.
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wabrams
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I don’t know, why did they? You need to see a lawyer b/c it is illegal to turn someone away from the ER who needs care.
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ComputerGeek25
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Without knowing your story (maybe I missed it) two things come to mind:
- I don’t know what went on, but did they have a quick look at you and deem that no further treatment was necessary? Or there was nothing they could do? Are you sure that they flat out denied you, or did they deem your situation “not serious” (it is, by all means the “emergency room”) [Again, I don’t mean any disrespect here.]
- You also may need to see a lawyer, to advise you on point #1. It is illegal to leave someone out in the dust.
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pathia
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Only for healthy people without chronic conditions. I have to get a blood/hormone/chemical panel done every 6months. The lab company charges insurance companies $500, but it’ll charge a self paying individual $1500 or higher.
Third world? Doubtful, but in probably any other system in the 1st world, I wouldn’t be having issues walking as I never would have had the clots that I did.
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wabrams
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You know, I’m sorry for your condition and what has happened to you re: lack of care and treatment by healthcare workers; I have even included you in my prayers. But I am tired of everytime someone mentions out-of-pocket costs that most people could afford by putting away $10 or $15 a month, you always bring up your situation. Your situation is not the norm and in no way effects what a large chunk of the uninsured could afford. Again, I truly feel bad for you, but quit using your situation as an excuse why everyone else NOT in your situation should not do for themselves.
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pathia
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All it takes is one chronic condition and boom, wipe-out. I doubt my situation is the case for 40million, but I would suspect it is in the hundreds of thousands or millions, maybe not the extent that which I have, but it is still a large number of people. I’m still sick, getting worse by this system with every passing month. I won’t shut-up until I die.
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DanteAlighieri
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I am not familiar with the particulars of your medical situation, nor am I asking to be so. However, it sounds very serious. My sympathies and prayers are with you.
Nonetheless, because it is so serious and apparently requires you to spend a good portion of your life in the hospital, I must also assume that it is not a common situation. As you pointed out, it is not “the case for 40 million” people. Given that, I find it hard to indict the entire medical insurance system for its inability to handle a rare medical condition adequately.
Unfortunately, since it would be inappropriate for us to go into great detail about your specific condition, I don’t see how we can have a fruitful discussion about your specific case. I am not suggesting that you bow out of the conversation, but perhaps it would be more productive to focus on the debate from a more universal point of view.
Peace,
Dante
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ComputerGeek25
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No one system can cover 100% of the population for 100% of the diseases/conditions 100% of the time, in the most time efficient way possible.
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aspawloski4th
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WWWell everyone, if looked into far enough is a special situation. We are not cookie cutter people Yes her condition is rare, although not as rare as you think. But there are millions of “rare conditions” out there. Like it or not we are all differnet.
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wabrams
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Many, many of us on this forum (conservative & liberal) have said on multiple occasions they should extend medicare/medicaid to covers the small percentage of the population with unusual chronic conditions such as yours. Your response has been that isn’t good enough or you claim Republicans want to dismantle those programs (which they don’t, just do away with fraud and waste). It seems you have gotten to the point that you feel every option is horrible.
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pathia
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I have been told on more than one occasion (not by anyone still here) that I should just ‘get over it’ and ‘let God’s will be done’ and accept death or refuse care until I die, to remove the burden on society I create. I am denying God’s will that I die, sinning by refuting death. I really wish I was kidding, but I’m not.
Every single person that told me this was a conservative, not a liberal.
Other people continually state over and over that I should rely on nothing but charity, when it my life anonymous charity has damaged me more than helped.
My medical problems have been documented in the forums fairly extensively. Look for my threads, or search for ‘intersex’ and they will come up.
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wabrams
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No, I remember some of those comments and they came from both sides of the political spectrum.
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pathia
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I don’t recall any and I can’t find any, mostly these comments are in reality, from coworkers, my family, etc.
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aspawloski4th
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If I were to owe anyone that today I’d be wiped out. You just hate governement. I happen to hate bother governement and business. But goverenement to solve the problem has the power to print money to pay off debts. Since money is backed by nothing its value has no connection whatsoever to how much is in the supply. When the shadow governement wants there to be no national debt they will role the presses to pay it off. Even Rush Limbaugh said that himself. If people want to solve the big picture deep solution get down to brass tacks problems soo bad, where is the clamour for an honest monatary system where the treasury mints the money and theres a dollars worth of gold at fort knox backinging up every sing dollar in circulation? If you are not for that you are not a true conservative. Untill that happens I really dont care about the budget, because in truth the natioal debt is only a leger book entry. If the insiders are going to fanagle with my country’s monatary system I’m going to do the best I can to take advantage of it and no let it take advantage of the inocent or me. Those who worry about the national debt are playing into the shadow governements hands lock stock and barrel, and I refuse too. If you don’t believe me read the book titled " The Creatture From Jekyl Island".
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aspawloski4th
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Since I got beaten over the head for excuses growing up, that excuse doesn’t fly with me. That is a perfect example of a copout.
No one system can cover 100% of the population for 100% of the diseases/conditions 100% of the time, in the most time efficient way possible.
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aspawloski4th
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In my slice of the world I’m sick and tired of that too. My mother told me that a heart transplant is interfering with God’s right to end a life and a mortal sin. I was once a conservative, but lately it’s conservative idealogues I am the most sick and tired of. A bunch of mind numbed robots who refuse to think for themselves for even a minute. their responses are so predictable it bores even me.
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