Heaven

[Stantteman]

Many “Christians” say that you don’t go to heaven when you die and that you are asleep. Jehovah’s Witnesses to me that God rembers you when you did. What proof is there that when you die you go to heaven. I also heard the Jesus opened the gate way to heaven with his death. People who were good stayed in Abrahams bosom untill then. I heard one this site called two types of hell? What does schripture say. And also the belife in lingo or something where you go before you go to heaven. Like an inbetween. What is the Catholic teaching on that?

 

[Pfaffenhoffen]

Many “Christians” say that you don’t go to heaven when you die and that you are asleep. Jehovah’s Witnesses to me that God rembers you when you did. What proof is there that when you die you go to heaven. I also heard the Jesus opened the gate way to heaven with his death. People who were good stayed in Abrahams bosom untill then. I heard one this site called two types of hell? What does schripture say. And also the belife in lingo or something where you go before you go to heaven. Like an inbetween. What is the Catholic teaching on that?

If we were to answer all the hypothesis that were raised for Heaven and hell, we would do nothing but talk about the subject.

Sincerely, I find the theme boring.

Now, what Jesus said: “Do to the little ones, for I am each one of them”. That is Heaven. simply, you do not notice it. After death, you see it. Period.

You know, I must simplify otherwise I would go crazy discussing every theory.

 

[PJM]

=Stantteman;8359835]Many “Christians” say that you don’t go to heaven when you die and that you are asleep. Jehovah’s Witnesses to me that God rembers you when you did. What proof is there that when you die you go to heaven. I also heard the Jesus opened the gate way to heaven with his death. People who were good stayed in Abrahams bosom untill then. I heard one this site called two types of hell? What does schripture say. And also the belife in lingo or something where you go before you go to heaven. Like an inbetween. What is the Catholic teaching on that?

**First JW’s are NOT Christian; **while they use some of the same termonology we do there beliefs are no where near fact or reality, and Christian beleifs about God, Jesus, heaven and after life, and other issues as well.

Yes heaven is real; HAS NOTHING to do with sleeping “Thou ARE DUST and to DUST we shall all return.” What lives on are our "minds, intellects, freewill which are permnantly attached to our souls. These are “Spiritual Things” similar to God who too is a Spirit.

There existrence can be shown but not quantified. Tke your freewill for example. How much dies it weigh? What is its shape? What color is it? These Spiritual things are what wither suffer in hell or rejoice in heaven. At the LAST Judgment these “spiritual things” will be reunited with our then GLOROFIED and perfected bodies for all eternity.

Let me know if you have further questions and I’d be delighted to answer them for you.

God Bless you,
Pat

 

[Stantteman]

**First JW’s are NOT Christian; **while they use some of the same termonology we do there beliefs are no where near fact or reality, and Christian beleifs about God, Jesus, heaven and after life, and other issues as well.

Yes heaven is real; HAS NOTHING to do with sleeping “Thou ARE DUST and to DUST we shall all return.” What lives on are our "minds, intellects, freewill which are permnantly attached to our souls. These are “Spiritual Things” similar to God who too is a Spirit.

There existrence can be shown but not quantified. Tke your freewill for example. How much dies it weigh? What is its shape? What color is it? These Spiritual things are what wither suffer in hell or rejoice in heaven. At the LAST Judgment these “spiritual things” will be reunited with our then GLOROFIED and perfected bodies for all eternity.

Let me know if you have further questions and I’d be delighted to answer them for you.

God Bless you,
Pat

Thank you. Jehovah’s Witnesses say that Hades and sheol are smiply places of the dead. Ezek. 18:4 says that the soul that is sinning itself will die. Also Psalms 146:4 says His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground; in that day his thoughts do perish.

Also what about this scripture. Acts 2:34 They also reason that In Matthew 11:11 that John the Baptizer did not go to heaven. And that all who are “asleep” will posses the earth Psalms 37:9, 11, 29(In catholic scriptures and numbers are diffirent to my understanding.) Also If adam did not sin would he have eventually gone to heaven or lived on a paradise earth? I do not wish to agrue scripture I just want to know what these scriptures mean and how the rest of the Bible supports it. I do not feel confortable with Jehovah’s Witnesses and it feels wrong to me. Ever sence I was young I wanted to be Catholic. I rember telling people I wanted to be but I realy had no idea what it was ( I have never been to a Catholic Church but I have watched it on TV.). I alwais seen the virgin statues as beautiful when ever I seen it(I am now taught that it is Idolatry). But none of that matters to me if the Cathoilc Church is not true to the Bible. I am truly seeking. And I want guidance. I pray to God for guidance. Thank you.

 

[Jmd96]

Many “Christians” say that you don’t go to heaven when you die and that you are asleep. Jehovah’s Witnesses to me that God rembers you when you did. What proof is there that when you die you go to heaven. I also heard the Jesus opened the gate way to heaven with his death. People who were good stayed in Abrahams bosom untill then. I heard one this site called two types of hell? What does schripture say. And also the belife in lingo or something where you go before you go to heaven. Like an inbetween. What is the Catholic teaching on that?

Scripture says:
“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
(Matthew 25:46)
**"I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; and whoever lives and believes in me will never die…” **(John 11:25-26)
"And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life."
(Matthew 19:29)
"The Lord will rescue me from every evil attack and will bring me safely to his heavenly kingdom. To him be glory for ever and ever. Amen."
(2 Timothy 4:18)
“Rejoice in that day and leap for joy, because great is your reward in heaven. For that is how their ancestors treated the prophets."
(Luke 6:23)
…and much more.

In Catholic teaching, Purgatory is a temorary place of punishment for those bound for Heaven to receive temporal punishment for sins, as opposed to the eternal punishment for sins which Jesus paid for with His sacrifice.

Limbo is not a necessary belief, but a theoretical place for unbaptized infants. However, the prevailing viewpoint right now is that unbaptized infants are saved through God’s mercy.

God bless!

 

[Jmd96]

Thank you. Jehovah’s Witnesses say that Hades and sheol are smiply places of the dead. Ezek. 18:4 says that the soul that is sinning itself will die. Also Psalms 146:4 says His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground; in that day his thoughts do perish.

Also what about this scripture. Acts 2:34 They also reason that In Matthew 11:11 that John the Baptizer did not go to heaven. And that all who are “asleep” will posses the earth Psalms 37:9, 11, 29(In catholic scriptures and numbers are diffirent to my understanding.) Also If adam did not sin would he have eventually gone to heaven or lived on a paradise earth? I do not wish to agrue scripture I just want to know what these scriptures mean and how the rest of the Bible supports it. I do not feel confortable with Jehovah’s Witnesses and it feels wrong to me. Ever sence I was young I wanted to be Catholic. I rember telling people I wanted to be but I realy had no idea what it was ( I have never been to a Catholic Church but I have watched it on TV.). I alwais seen the virgin statues as beautiful when ever I seen it(I am now taught that it is Idolatry). But none of that matters to me if the Cathoilc Church is not true to the Bible. I am truly seeking. And I want guidance. I pray to God for guidance. Thank you.

I think it’s great that you’ve always had a thirst for the Catholic Church

Acts 2:34
For David did not ascend to heaven

To ascend to heaven is to go to heaven by your own power, body and soul. Peter, the speaker in this verse, is comparing David to Jesus, who did ascend into Heaven. David’s soul is in heaven, to be reunited with his body at the general resurrection, but he did not ascend into Heaven.

Matthew 11:11
Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet whoever is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

Here’s a pretty good commentary:
*By the kingdom of heaven in this verse is meant, the fullness of the blessings of the Gospel of peace; which fullness was not known till after Christ had been crucified, and had risen from the dead. Now the least in this kingdom, the meanest preacher of a crucified, risen, and glorified saviour, was greater than John, who was not permitted to live to see the plenitude of Gospel grace, in the pouring out of the Holy Spirit.

That the kingdom of heaven here does not mean the state of future glory. That it is not in holiness or devotedness to God that the least in this kingdom is greater than John… That it is merely in the difference of the ministry. The prophets pointed out a Christ that was coming; John showed that that Christ was then among them; and the preachers of the Gospel prove that this Christ has suffered, and entered into his glory, and that repentance and remission of sins are proclaimed through his blood. There is a saying similar to this among the Jews: “Even the servant maid that passed through the Red Sea, saw what neither Ezekiel, nor any other of the prophets had seen.” *

Also, certain verses may seem to contradict Catholic teaching, but viewed as a whole and with proper interpretation, the Bible supports the Catholic Church 100%. Besides, the Catholic Church compiled the Bible

God bless!

 

[Stantteman]

I think it’s great that you’ve always had a thirst for the Catholic Church

Acts 2:34
For David did not ascend to heaven

To ascend to heaven is to go to heaven by your own power, body and soul. Peter, the speaker in this verse, is comparing David to Jesus, who did ascend into Heaven. David’s soul is in heaven, to be reunited with his body at the general resurrection, but he did not ascend into Heaven.

Matthew 11:11
Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet whoever is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

Here’s a pretty good commentary:
*By the kingdom of heaven in this verse is meant, the fullness of the blessings of the Gospel of peace; which fullness was not known till after Christ had been crucified, and had risen from the dead. Now the least in this kingdom, the meanest preacher of a crucified, risen, and glorified saviour, was greater than John, who was not permitted to live to see the plenitude of Gospel grace, in the pouring out of the Holy Spirit.

That the kingdom of heaven here does not mean the state of future glory. That it is not in holiness or devotedness to God that the least in this kingdom is greater than John… That it is merely in the difference of the ministry. The prophets pointed out a Christ that was coming; John showed that that Christ was then among them; and the preachers of the Gospel prove that this Christ has suffered, and entered into his glory, and that repentance and remission of sins are proclaimed through his blood. There is a saying similar to this among the Jews: “Even the servant maid that passed through the Red Sea, saw what neither Ezekiel, nor any other of the prophets had seen.” *

Also, certain verses may seem to contradict Catholic teaching, but viewed as a whole and with proper interpretation, the Bible supports the Catholic Church 100%. Besides, the Catholic Church compiled the Bible

God bless!

Can you tell me more about the general resurrection please? I was told that Catholics think that the whole world was to be destroyed by hell fire. Is this not a teaching now but once was?

Also What does the Bible mean when it says in Rev. 20:13,14 "The sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. If the lake of fire is hell how does hell cast itself into itself?

Why did Jesus go to hell. And also Job. Job 14:13

"[Job prayed:]
Who will grant me this, that thou mayst protect me in hell,* and hide me till thy wrath pass, and appoint me a time when thou wilt remember me?" (God himself said that Job was “a man blameless and upright, fearing God and turning aside from bad.” -Job 1:8)
(*“The grave” KJ; “the world of the dead,” TEV; “Sheol” AS, RS, NE, JB, NW.)

 

[SunnaB16]

You can`t believe anything that the WBTS members tell you; and that includes any of their literature. Their Bible is very badly mistranslated in some areas; and they quote verses out of context, as virtually all of our opponents do.

Can you tell me more about the general resurrection please? I was told that Catholics think that the whole world was to be destroyed by hell fire. Is this not a teaching now but once was?

On Doomsday,for good or for ill, the soul will be reunited with a resurrection body. Purgatory will cease to exist.
Those in hell will have ugly, physically suffering bodies.
Those in Heaven will have glorified, perfectly coordinated, graceful bodies.

The JWs get it wrong with their belief in spirit bodies (for only 144,000).
There`s no such thing as a spirit body.
They believe that angels (good and fallen) have spirit bodies.
They believe that GOD, HIMSELF has a spirit body!
God is pure spirit; so are the angels and our own souls.

2 Peter 3:10 says:
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare.

Also What does the Bible mean when it says in Rev. 20:13,14 "The sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. If the lake of fire is hell how does hell cast itself into itself?

Why did Jesus go to hell. And also Job. Job 14:13

The word “hell” used to mean the abode of the dead, as in the Apostles Creed:
“He descended into hell…”
These days, theres a growing tendency to say: "He descended to the dead......"; and thats a better way to say it.

Our Lords human soul went to the state of the souls of the dead. The souls of the just were unable to "enter" Heaven until Jesus Ascension, when He led them into Heaven, and the Beatific Vision which is the greatest happiness of the lot: spirit-to-Spirit contact with God. A union of knowledge and love, with an awareness and love of all of the other blesseds and the angels.

“And death and hell…” Revelation 20:14:
The Good News translation says:
“Then death and the world of the dead were thrown into the lake of fire…”
The New Living Translation says:
“Then death and the grave were thrown into the lake of fire…”
Others say:
“Then death and hades…”
So, Saint John is just saying that there will be no more death.

 

[SunnaB16]

PS
Stan:
i hit “Submit Reply” too soon; and then ran out of edit time.

Theres a really handy site called "Biblos". When you type in a Bible verse on Google, at/near the top of the list, youll see “bible.cc/[verse]”
Found it by accident only recently; but since then, its been invaluable on these forums. It quotes the verses from a number of different translations: old (eg King James Bible) and recent (eg International Standard Version: copyright 2008). More than once, ive used the site to quote the best sounding passage.

i`m no good at remembering the exact chapters and verses, or even books; but now…

Regarding spirit:
A spirit has no material substance, and so, does NOT occupy space.
The WBTS seems to teach that a so-called spirit body is similar to the normal material body; but invisible…

The human soul is the seat of the intellect and the will, as mentioned by an earlier poster. Ditto for the angels.

Sorry for raving on… just trying to cover all bases…

 

[Stantteman]

PS
Stan:
i hit “Submit Reply” too soon; and then ran out of edit time.

Theres a really handy site called "Biblos". When you type in a Bible verse on Google, at/near the top of the list, youll see “bible.cc/[verse]”
Found it by accident only recently; but since then, its been invaluable on these forums. It quotes the verses from a number of different translations: old (eg King James Bible) and recent (eg International Standard Version: copyright 2008). More than once, ive used the site to quote the best sounding passage.

i`m no good at remembering the exact chapters and verses, or even books; but now…

Regarding spirit:
A spirit has no material substance, and so, does NOT occupy space.
The WBTS seems to teach that a so-called spirit body is similar to the normal material body; but invisible…

The human soul is the seat of the intellect and the will, as mentioned by an earlier poster. Ditto for the angels.

Sorry for raving on… just trying to cover all bases…

Where thease things are translated as hell and other the world of the dead and Sheol. Sheol is used in other parts of the Bible where Hell in mentioned and in others it is Said Sheol and other things like it. So why in some places where Sheol is used it says Hell, and others it says the world of the dead or the hebrew work Sheol. So does the word mean something diffirent in other parts of the Bible?

 

[Stantteman]

You can`t believe anything that the WBTS members tell you; and that includes any of their literature. Their Bible is very badly mistranslated in some areas; and they quote verses out of context, as virtually all of our opponents do.

On Doomsday,for good or for ill, the soul will be reunited with a resurrection body. Purgatory will cease to exist.
Those in hell will have ugly, physically suffering bodies.
Those in Heaven will have glorified, perfectly coordinated, graceful bodies.

The JWs get it wrong with their belief in spirit bodies (for only 144,000).
There`s no such thing as a spirit body.
They believe that angels (good and fallen) have spirit bodies.
They believe that GOD, HIMSELF has a spirit body!
God is pure spirit; so are the angels and our own souls.

2 Peter 3:10 says:
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare.

The word “hell” used to mean the abode of the dead, as in the Apostles Creed:
“He descended into hell…”
These days, theres a growing tendency to say: "He descended to the dead......"; and thats a better way to say it.

Our Lords human soul went to the state of the souls of the dead. The souls of the just were unable to "enter" Heaven until Jesus Ascension, when He led them into Heaven, and the Beatific Vision which is the greatest happiness of the lot: spirit-to-Spirit contact with God. A union of knowledge and love, with an awareness and love of all of the other blesseds and the angels.

“And death and hell…” Revelation 20:14:
The Good News translation says:
“Then death and the world of the dead were thrown into the lake of fire…”
The New Living Translation says:
“Then death and the grave were thrown into the lake of fire…”
Others say:
“Then death and hades…”
So, Saint John is just saying that there will be no more death.

Here you say the ones in Heaven will be glorified. Do they stay in heven in this general reseruection? You say that they a reunited whith their human bodies on earth correct? I don’t understand can you elaborate more? is it like the perfect paradise on earth as the JWs teach? JWs teach that the 144,000 go to heaven as spirit bodies and rule over the Kingdom with God and Jesus in heaven. While everyone else injoys a perfect earth never ending a peace. They also teach the the 1000 years used in Rev. is the judgment time. The Bible says that there will be a resurectiong of the wicked and the good. When it say resserection it sounds like it means that the dead will come to life but realy in means that people will be rejoind with their bodies? And if the wicked are in Hell why do they get to come back to earth. And why if people are in heaven all ready why would God send them back to earth when heaven would be much better. Sorry for all the questions I just realy want to figure out what is true. Please back everything up with scripture. Thank you so much!

 

[PJM]

=Stantteman;8360477]Can you tell me more about the general resurrection please? I was told that Catholics think that the whole world was to be destroyed by hell fire. Is this not a teaching now but once was?

Also What does the Bible mean when it says in Rev. 20:13,14 "The sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. If the lake of fire is hell how does hell cast itself into itself?

Why did Jesus go to hell. And also Job. Job 14:13

Wht Catholic believe is WHAT Jesus Teaches and has a Biblical foundation There will be TWO judgments. The first immediatly after death where WE [not God] determine by our beliefs and life choices where we will spend eternity. Heaven with God [not as a god] or Hell with Satan [who is a fallen angel, NOT a brother to Jesus].

As for the Fianl Judgment; get a Catholic Bible or even a GOOD KJ Bible and read Matthews chapter 24 and 25 and you’ll understand why we teach what we do

God Bless you,
Pat

 

[Guitarjesus7]

Wht Catholic believe is WHAT Jesus Teaches and has a Biblical foundation There will be TWO judgments. The first immediatly after death where WE [not God] determine by our beliefs and life choices where we will spend eternity. Heaven with God [not as a god] or Hell with Satan [who is a fallen angel, NOT a brother to Jesus].

As for the Fianl Judgment; get a Catholic Bible or even a GOOD KJ Bible and read Matthews chapter 24 and 25 and you’ll understand why we teach what we do

God Bless you,
Pat

You do realize that it’s the LDS church that teaches men can become gods, and the Satan is Jesus’s brother, not jehovas witness’s, right? And their theology is dramatically different.

 

[pablope]

Many “Christians” say that you don’t go to heaven when you die and that you are asleep. Jehovah’s Witnesses to me that God rembers you when you did. What proof is there that when you die you go to heaven. I also heard the Jesus opened the gate way to heaven with his death. People who were good stayed in Abrahams bosom untill then. I heard one this site called two types of hell? What does schripture say. And also the belife in lingo or something where you go before you go to heaven. Like an inbetween. What is the Catholic teaching on that?

In the Bible, depending on which passage it was used, to go to sleep meant to die, not sleep as in sleeping and waking in the morning.

When one dies, one is immediately subject to judgement…either to Heaven or Hell. If destined to Heaven but still with impurities, one is sent to Purgatory for further cleansing.

Why Purgatory? Rev 21: 27 states nothing impure shall enter heaven…“Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life.”

For further reading about purgatory:

catholic.com/library/Purgatory.asp

About Statues
catholic.com/library/Do_Catholics_Worship_Statues.asp

What Catholics believe about the end times:

catholic.com/library/Rapture.asp

 

[pablope]

Here you say the ones in Heaven will be glorified. Do they stay in heven in this general reseruection?

When in Heaven, we will be like angels. Matt 22:30…At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.

You say that they a reunited whith their human bodies on earth correct? I don’t understand can you elaborate more?

 

[Stantteman]

Where thease things are translated as hell and other the world of the dead and Sheol. Sheol is used in other parts of the Bible where Hell in mentioned and in others it is Said Sheol and other things like it. So why in some places where Sheol is used it says Hell, and others it says the world of the dead or the hebrew work Sheol. So does the word mean something diffirent in other parts of the Bible?

Thank you for all your answers. But I would like to get detail on what is quoted above. Thanx…

 

[Stantteman]

Wht Catholic believe is WHAT Jesus Teaches and has a Biblical foundation There will be TWO judgments. The first immediatly after death where WE [not God] determine by our beliefs and life choices where we will spend eternity. Heaven with God [not as a god] or Hell with Satan [who is a fallen angel, NOT a brother to Jesus].

As for the Fianl Judgment; get a Catholic Bible or even a GOOD KJ Bible and read Matthews chapter 24 and 25 and you’ll understand why we teach what we do

God Bless you,
Pat

I am currently reading it Matt. 24:14 talks about how they will preach. is this taking place with the CC church?
24:36 says that only the Father Knows the Hour but not the Son. but is the Son not God. God Knows but not the Son? how is this?

 

[PJM]

=Stantteman;8361866]Here you say the ones in Heaven will be glorified. Do they stay in heven in this general reseruection? You say that they a reunited whith their human bodies on earth correct? I don’t understand can you elaborate more? is it like the perfect paradise on earth as the JWs teach? JWs teach that the 144,000 go to heaven as spirit bodies and rule over the Kingdom with God and Jesus in heaven. While everyone else injoys a perfect earth never ending a peace. They also teach the the 1000 years used in Rev. is the judgment time. The Bible says that there will be a resurectiong of the wicked and the good. When it say resserection it sounds like it means that the dead will come to life but realy in means that people will be rejoind with their bodies? And if the wicked are in Hell why do they get to come back to earth. And why if people are in heaven all ready why would God send them back to earth when heaven would be much better. Sorry for all the questions I just realy want to figure out what is true. Please back everything up with scripture. Thank you so much!

Please permit me to interject

ALL the numbers in the bible have signifiance beyond the actaul numbers used. With large numbers they are NEVER expected to be exact; and refect, in general terms, long periods or large numbers. They are making a POINT; not stating a fact

All who attain heaven by cooperating with GODS plan for our salvation [that friend is the only one that matters and works], are “glorified” in the sense that they ARE now in the very presence of God. It has noting to do with “glory of a personal nature” for these souls, which like the Angels in heaven have a SINGULAR God centered focus of GLORY, Honor, Praise and Worship.

At death our bodies in what ever shape they have to be in cease to exist as a part of humanity; and return to the original stuff [dirt/dust] that Gos Ctrated us out of. Because Jesus Himself [He is God the Son], rose from the dead; He did so what God has promised all of us in the Final “General”] Judgment of all of humaity for all of time; so that we will at last know the self-chosen fate of everyone we ever knew; ever loved. This will be “new creation” in that our minds, intellects, freewill which are permnantly attached to our souls; will be given by God New; Perfect bodies; as was Christ in His ressurection.

One of the obvious FACTS about the Mormon marketing of their “faith” is the poor record of their “prophets” as far as accuracy of their predictions. A TRUE and God Inspired Prophet simply could NEVER BE WRONG! Such is true also og God’s ONLY originated religion. Today’s Catholic Religion who’s teaching on ALL matters of Faith-beliefs and Morals can literally never be in error bcause Christ Himself acts as warranty of this. [Jn. 14;16-17; Jn. 17:15-20; John 20:19-23].

Hope this aids your understanding?

God Bless you,
Pat

 

[PJM]

I am currently reading it Matt. 24:14 talks about how they will preach. is this taking place with the CC church?
24:36 says that only the Father Knows the Hour but not the Son. but is the Son not God. God Knows but not the Son? how is this?

Matt.24: 14 “And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, as a testimony to all nations; and then the end will come”. YES and ONLY the CC who alone hold the key to access to heaven [Mt. 16:19] and this is why: …**Mt. 28:19-20 "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, to the close of the age." eys to heaven or doing so as a direct command of Jesus to them." Further it is done in the Name of Jesus; AND WITH THE CTAUL AUTHORITY AND POWERS OF CHRIST> John 20:19-23 … "On the evening of that day, the first day of the week,[ist. Pentecost] the doors being shut where the disciples were, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood among them and said to them, “Peace be with you.” ** When he had said this, he showed them his hands and his side. Jesus said to them again, “**Peace be with you. ***As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.” *[22] And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. [23] If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.”

This is the literal transfer of the Power and the Authority of Jesus as GOD; to His Catholic church. NO other faith or church is so empowered!

As to your second question. The REASON there are THOUSANDS of competing Christian faiths and churches results from attempting [W/O Guidence from the HS] to translate an understand what the bible i teaching. The Bible itself warns against this foolish [because it cannot be done correctly W/O God’s Help which ONLY the CC has].

**Eph.3: 9 to 12 **“And to make all men see what is the plan of the mystery hidden for ages in God who created all things; that through the church SINGULAR: meaning THE CATHOLIC Church] the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known to the principalities and powers in the heavenly places. This was according to the eternal purpose which he has realized in Christ Jesus our Lord, in whom we have boldness and confidence of access through our faith in him. “

Rom.10: 17 “So faith comes from what is heard, and what is heard comes by the preaching of Christ”

2nd. Peter 1: 16-21“For we did not follow cleverly devised myths when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty. “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased,” we heard this voice borne from heaven, for we were with him on the holy mountain. And we have the prophetic word made more sure. You will do well to pay attention to this as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts]. First of all you must understand this, that no prophecy of scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation, because no prophecy ever came by the impulse of man, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.”

**Matt.13:9-12 **“He who has ears, let him hear." Then the disciples [Apostles] came and said to him, “Why do you speak to them in parables?” And he answered them, **"To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given.” **For to him who has will more be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who has not, even what he has will be taken away. “

** 2nd. Tim. 3:16 **All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,

SPACE limits my responce but one MUST never forget the jesus ALONE possesses two complete and Perfect nature. He IS at the same time true God and TRUE man. And this reference is to His HUMAN NATURE being subject to the Father [a common reference in the bible] that does “not know.” As God He knows everything, always, everywhere.

The terminology is used for OUR benefit to make clear that we UNDERSTAND that Jesus is BOTH Divine and Human at the same time.

God Bless,
Pat

 

[pablope]

Thank you for all your answers. But I would like to get detail on what is quoted above. Thanx…

Sheol is a Jewish word and meant hell.

jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=614&letter=S

newadvent.org/cathen/07207a.htm

Might help you too to read about Abraham’s Bosom…

newadvent.org/cathen/01055a.htm

In the Holy Bible, the expression “the Bosom of Abraham” is found only in two verses of St. Luke’s Gospel (16:22-23). It occurs in the parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus the imagery of which is plainly drawn from the popular representations of the unseen world of the dead which were current in Our Lord’s time. According to the Jewish conceptions of that day, the souls of the dead were gathered into a general tarrying-place the Sheol of the Old Testament literature, and the Hades of the New Testament writings (cf. Luke 16:22; in the Greek 16:23). A local discrimination, however, existed among them, according to their deeds during their mortal life. In the unseen world of the dead the souls of the righteous occupied an abode or compartment of their own which was distinctly separated by a wall or a chasm from the abode or compartment to which the souls of the wicked were consigned. The latter was a place of torments usually spoken of as Gehenna (cf. Matthew 5:29, 30; 18:9; Mark 9:42 sqq. in the Latin Vulgate) — the other, a place of bliss and security known under the names of “Paradise” (cf. Luke 23:43) and “the Bosom of Abraham” (Luke 16:22-23).