It comes from the NT, where our LORD Himself warned about the “Gehenna of fire”.
).From the Prophets…through the Apostolic writers…the end of all things results in “the elements will burn with fervent heat”. If you are not found in the Lamb’s Book of Life…you are cast into the ever receding, ever fleeing Lake of Fire.
A neighbor of ours has a bumper sticker on his car “Pardon me, but which level of hell is this?”
Hah, that’s pretty good. Life can certainly seem like it at times.
Worms that will not die. Weeping and gnashing of teeth. I know that one. They believed “The Worm” caused toothaches or that they were caused by a worm.It comes from the NT, where our LORD Himself warned about the “Gehenna of fire”.
Better to go into life eternal one handed, one footed or one eyed than to go whole bodied into Gehenna of fire. (Especially since in life eternal, you receive pneumatikon soma, anyhow
Earlier, in one of the prophets (Zechariah?) there is a reference to worms that will not die ,and to fires that will not be quenched, upon the bodies of YHWH’s enemies. This would have to be in an afterlife, because a dead body cannot be “punished.” Our LORD quotes this prophecy in HIS NT teaching on Gehenna.
Gehenna of fire comes from a valley, called Hinnom, outside the walls of Jerusalem where the city’s debris was burnt; this included unclaimed dead bodies. Obviously, the former owners of the bodies did not experience this as punishment, nor were the fires at Hinnom “unquenchable.” It was a metaphor for punishment in a realm beyond death.
Alleluia, ICXC NIKA!
Any connection to one of the signs in Jonah? The worm that destroyed the gourd plant provided by the Lord; isn’t the belly of a beast sometimes referred to as its gourd?
I also like “Where are we going, and why are we in this handbasket?”
Probably with reflection on how horribly painful fire is.
I think you may be confusing Hephaestus with Hades.
It comes from the NT, where our LORD Himself warned about the “Gehenna of fire”.
Better to go into life eternal one handed, one footed or one eyed than to go whole bodied into Gehenna of fire. (Especially since in life eternal, you receive pneumatikon soma, anyhow
Earlier, in one of the prophets (Zechariah?) there is a reference to worms that will not die ,and to fires that will not be quenched, upon the bodies of YHWH’s enemies. This would have to be in an afterlife, because a dead body cannot be “punished.” Our LORD quotes this prophecy in HIS NT teaching on Gehenna.
Gehenna of fire comes from a valley, called Hinnom, outside the walls of Jerusalem where the city’s debris was burnt; this included unclaimed dead bodies. Obviously, the former owners of the bodies did not experience this as punishment, nor were the fires at Hinnom “unquenchable.” It was a metaphor for punishment in a realm beyond death.
Alleluia, ICXC NIKA!
“metaphor” is the key word which neatly disposes of crude interpretations of Christ’s teaching.Oh I maybe. I know Hephaestus had the hammer. Maybe it was Hades then. I guess heaven would’ve been the elysian fields. Dionysis too I guess changed water to wine on what is now the Epiphany. I am not an initiate of the greek mysteries but I do know this. It was Hera (Socrates) that was killed by her/his peoples.
What did the vulgate say? tartarus or hades?
The Greek word Tartarus is used only once in the NT.
Hum Zechariah. Was that the Babylonian captivity? What was the Assiryo/Babylonia concept of after life. Was it still sheoul? Or it could be like Isaiah were that went back in talking about the king of Babylon and stuck LUCIFER there. And modified the scriptures to the then current teachings. I’ll look at Babylonia period afterlife.It comes from the NT, where our LORD Himself warned about the “Gehenna of fire”.
Better to go into life eternal one handed, one footed or one eyed than to go whole bodied into Gehenna of fire. (Especially since in life eternal, you receive pneumatikon soma, anyhow
Earlier, in one of the prophets (Zechariah?) there is a reference to worms that will not die ,and to fires that will not be quenched, upon the bodies of YHWH’s enemies. This would have to be in an afterlife, because a dead body cannot be “punished.” Our LORD quotes this prophecy in HIS NT teaching on Gehenna.
Gehenna of fire comes from a valley, called Hinnom, outside the walls of Jerusalem where the city’s debris was burnt; this included unclaimed dead bodies. Obviously, the former owners of the bodies did not experience this as punishment, nor were the fires at Hinnom “unquenchable.” It was a metaphor for punishment in a realm beyond death.
Alleluia, ICXC NIKA!
Whooh, beau coup questions there!
Oh ok. Unsure there.
I’m sure the Babylonians didn’t use sheol. I was thinking of the babylonian captivity. Where they might’ve picked up from their ideas. Got away from God as it were. Ok.