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Greetings,

I am a new member here and am a LeVeyan Satanist. I believe in tolerance and I’m here for intellectual conversations about religion, nothing more. We’re not as harmful as we sound, not even close. And though our beliefs are different I know we can get along just fine. If you do wish to flame me, insult me, curse me to the depths of oblivion, or anything else, remember I am still a child. Well, essentially, technically a teenager. But not an adult, none the less.

DON’T try to convert me, that is a step too far, even if you have righteous motives they’ll be in vain. Here’s to looking forward to many conversations. Cheers,

Arnoagns
 
Welcome,

So just to get my bearings. Wikipedia isn’t the most reliable source of info, at times. Looking at the following link…

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaVeyan_Satanism

Would that be an accurate representation of what you believe?

Thanks in advance!
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Arnoagns said:
Greetings,

I am a new member here and am a LeVeyan Satanist. I believe in tolerance and I’m here for intellectual conversations about religion, nothing more. We’re not as harmful as we sound, not even close. And though our beliefs are different I know we can get along just fine. If you do wish to flame me, insult me, curse me to the depths of oblivion, or anything else, remember I am still a child. Well, essentially, technically a teenager. But not an adult, none the less.

DON’T try to convert me, that is a step too far, even if you have righteous motives they’ll be in vain. Here’s to looking forward to many conversations. Cheers,

Arnoagns
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Hello, welcome to CAF, I look forward to some interesting conversations on religion with you.

A word to the wise though, there have been Satanists here in the past, who have started innocently enough and have been banned for being insulting. Just a reminder that just as you wish to not be insulted as you are still young, we do not wish to have our faith attacked as this is a Catholic forum.

So how did someone so young get into Satanism, did you convert or is it a family thing?
 
Welcome. Does your pedigree of satanism subscribe to “do what you want to do” philosophy?
 
Arnoagns said:
Greetings,

I am a new member here and am a LeVeyan Satanist. I believe in tolerance and I’m here for intellectual conversations about religion, nothing more. We’re not as harmful as we sound, not even close. And though our beliefs are different I know we can get along just fine. If you do wish to flame me, insult me, curse me to the depths of oblivion, or anything else, remember I am still a child. Well, essentially, technically a teenager. But not an adult, none the less.

DON’T try to convert me, that is a step too far, even if you have righteous motives they’ll be in vain. Here’s to looking forward to many conversations. Cheers,

Arnoagns
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A hearty welcome, and I hope you don’t mind if I say the following.

Firstly - as you’ve said, you are a teenager and we (mostly) are adults who’ve been thinking about these things longer than you have. Some of whom used to believe as you do. So if you want us to respect your beliefs, then the onus is more on you to prove yourself worthy of that respect (which I have faith that you will) than on us to prove ourselves to you.

Secondly - remember that you came here voluntarily, seeking a Catholic perspective on things. Which will inevitably disagree greatly with your own and which does NOT treat all belief systems as equal or anything like.

We don’t hate, even slightly, people who disagree with us, at least not unless they’re incredibly offensive about our beliefs. But we do believe that there is an objective, knowable truth out there about God, and only one, as God Himself is one, and furthermore that He has revealed that truth to us specifically.

It’s not arrogance, or anything personal. We don’t believe that WE are better, far from it, we hold ourselves to a higher standard than we apply to people such as yourself, and fail just as often. It’s just that our sources of information and knowledge, and therefore our faith and practices, are, we believe, those revealed by God Himself and no other.

Thirdly - remember that we believe that we are called upon by God to ‘make disciples of all nations’. For the most part we absolutely are not pushy about it, quite the contrary. We don’t knock door-to-door like the Mormons or anything, but that doesn’t mean some of us at least won’t feel the obligation to try to persuade you to our side.

Feel free to tell those who do, as politely as possible please, that you’re not interested, but remember again you’re on our turf, not on neutral territory. And always remember that there’s a feature called ‘ignore’. You can choose not to view the posts of certain posters if you dont’ like what they have to say. It’s a good way of being able to still talk with those who you are interested in without being bothered by the others.

Good luck - would you find it offensive if I said ‘God bless’? 😉
 
Arnoagns said:
Greetings,

I am a new member here and am a LeVeyan Satanist. I believe in tolerance and I’m here for intellectual conversations about religion, nothing more. We’re not as harmful as we sound, not even close. And though our beliefs are different I know we can get along just fine. If you do wish to flame me, insult me, curse me to the depths of oblivion, or anything else, remember I am still a child. Well, essentially, technically a teenager. But not an adult, none the less.

DON’T try to convert me, that is a step too far, even if you have righteous motives they’ll be in vain. Here’s to looking forward to many conversations. Cheers,

Arnoagns
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Hello Arnoagns!

So what did you do today? I’m shopping around for christmas trees online today, posting here and getting prepared for a kindergarten fun day at a bowling alley.
 
Oh, now now, it’s not really fair to say that Catholics hold themselves to ‘higher standards’ than LaVeyan Satanists do. Some Catholics hold themselves to very high standards, and so do some LaVeyans, albeit in some different ways. Maybe it’d be easier to think of them more as ‘libertarian atheists’ or something - not quite accurate, but still it may give you a little more point-of-view reference.

I knew a few LaVeyans of various ages a while ago when I lived in Berkeley, and while they could be a little cranky and notional, I find that is true for all sorts of people and beliefs. They were good neighbors though, and had wonderful senses of humor about themselves and the world in general, since they knew they were unusual and found it best to know how to not take themselves TOO seriously, and it sounds like this young person already has a fairly pleasant streak of that developing.

So yes, welcome! I’m not a theist, and am happy to say that, with a few exceptions, the people here are really nice. The caveats already mentioned about being young and perhaps prone to a little social gaucherie are probably more of a concern than your espoused faith, so yeah, be friendly and you’ll likely receive friendliness in turn. I doubt you’ll shock many simply by being of a different sect, okay? Besides, that would be childish - just hang out and enjoy, and if you have something to say that you think is cogent, sure, pipe on up with good manners and that will bring you respect. Pretty much like any other community, internet or real world, yes?

For my part, so long as you are civil, I’d step right up to defend you if you are treated poorly, merely for being different or young, as I would for anyone. 🙂
 
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Oh, now now, it’s not really fair to say that Catholics hold themselves to ‘higher standards’ than LaVeyan Satanists do. Some Catholics hold themselves to very high standards, and so do some LaVeyans, albeit in some different ways.
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Hang on, that isn’t what I said. I didn’t speak at all to the standards that Satanists may apply to themselves 🤷 rather to the standards that a Catholic might apply to a Satanist, as opposed to those a Catholic applies to him or herself or to a fellow Catholic.
 
Then perhaps arnoagns would be equally justified in saying that about applying Satanists’ standards to Catholics, as opposed to the standards Satanists apply to other Satanists. That’s all I meant.

We don’t need to be enemies, even if we disagree. 🙂
 
I guess I’d like to ask ‘who is Satan’ and why would anyone worship him? :o
 
Welcome Arnoagns. I’m a satanist also, but of the devil-worship “pedigree”. 🤷 I’ve been around this board for a little while and I’ve never had any problems with the Catholics here. Respect them and they’ll respect you ^.^

There are many great conversations and topics on these boards. I would not say that the Non-Catholic forum is really the place to get a **good **conversation going on beliefs though. A lot of the useful/insightful posts are in other areas such as the Apologetics. I would say this particular forum (Non-Catholic) might be one of the more hostile if you’re not careful.
 
Arnoagns said:
Greetings,

I am a new member here and am a LeVeyan Satanist. I believe in tolerance and I’m here for intellectual conversations about religion, nothing more. We’re not as harmful as we sound, not even close. And though our beliefs are different I know we can get along just fine. If you do wish to flame me, insult me, curse me to the depths of oblivion, or anything else, remember I am still a child. Well, essentially, technically a teenager. But not an adult, none the less.

DON’T try to convert me, that is a step too far, even if you have righteous motives they’ll be in vain. Here’s to looking forward to many conversations. Cheers,

Arnoagns
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Are you running away from Christianity and/or Theism or running toward what you believe is an intellectual religion that matches your ideas and personal drive? Fair questions I think. I’ve been in those shoes before and have now taken them off. Just wondering what your experience is.

MW
 
Imryl said:
Welcome Arnoagns. I’m a satanist also, but of the devil-worship “pedigree”. 🤷 I’ve been around this board for a little while and I’ve never had any problems with the Catholics here. Respect them and they’ll respect you ^.^

There are many great conversations and topics on these boards. I would not say that the Non-Catholic forum is really the place to get a **good conversation going on beliefs though. A lot of the useful/insightful posts are in other areas such as the Apologetics. ** I would say this particular forum (Non-Catholic) might be one of the more hostile if you’re not careful.
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I’d agree with this statement, there are a few posters who treat the ‘‘Non-Catholic Religions’’ subforum as a hunting grounds.
 
Nepenthe said:
Then perhaps arnoagns would be equally justified in saying that about applying Satanists’ standards to Catholics, as opposed to the standards Satanists apply to other Satanists. That’s all I meant.

We don’t need to be enemies, even if we disagree. 🙂
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I agree, what you say may very well be the case, and my statement didn’t discount it. I was simply speaking of that which I know rather than that which I don’t - and I’ll freely admit I know next to nothing about LaVeyan Satanism. 🙂
 
Imryl said:
Welcome Arnoagns. I’m a satanist also, but of the devil-worship “pedigree”. 🤷 I’ve been around this board for a little while and I’ve never had any problems with the Catholics here. Respect them and they’ll respect you ^.^

There are many great conversations and topics on these boards. I would not say that the Non-Catholic forum is really the place to get a **good **conversation going on beliefs though. A lot of the useful/insightful posts are in other areas such as the Apologetics. I would say this particular forum (Non-Catholic) might be one of the more hostile if you’re not careful.
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Hello again, old friend. It’s not surprising that we were both drawn to this topic. Hope all is well with you.

MW
 
Imryl said:
Welcome Arnoagns. I’m a satanist also, but of the devil-worship “pedigree”. 🤷 I’ve been around this board for a little while and I’ve never had any problems with the Catholics here. Respect them and they’ll respect you ^.^

There are many great conversations and topics on these boards. I would not say that the Non-Catholic forum is really the place to get a **good **conversation going on beliefs though. A lot of the useful/insightful posts are in other areas such as the Apologetics. I would say this particular forum (Non-Catholic) might be one of the more hostile if you’re not careful.
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I agree about this section. Peter is right about it as well. And it is not always the Catholics who hunt here. Sometimes, it is like watching groups of rival gangs patroll an area.

However, please feel free to dive right in. Just set aside hostility, even when shown to you and you can have a long run on here.
 
I just watched another LeVayan Satanist get ransacked a few weeks back, I thought I’d give this kid his fair warning. ~.^

This board is really a good resource if people don’t act like 12 year olds.
 
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