Hello, A Satanist has joined you

[Gatell]

Funny, I read most of it and it seems that at least, other than the name, obviously offending to normal people, their tenets are nothing more thant typical “dog eat dog” society.

Painfully similar to our modern lives, making it even more important for us to focus on that Beacon of Light, The Church.

Victor

Welcome,

So just to get my bearings. Wikipedia isn’t the most reliable source of info, at times. Looking at the following link…

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaVeyan_Satanism

Would that be an accurate representation of what you believe?

Thanks in advance!
WingNut

 

[Imryl]

Whoops, I misspelled LaVeyan, sorry about that. I’m usually more careful. >.<

To answer your question, I do a lot of things. Primarily I enjoy praying.

But I don’t typically share much about it. This is also not a thread made for the purpose of discussing it. I just wanted to give him a quick warning and a hello.

 

[Rightlydivide]

Greetings,

I am a new member here and am a LeVeyan Satanist. I believe in tolerance and I’m here for intellectual conversations about religion, nothing more. We’re not as harmful as we sound, not even close. And though our beliefs are different I know we can get along just fine. If you do wish to flame me, insult me, curse me to the depths of oblivion, or anything else, remember I am still a child. Well, essentially, technically a teenager. But not an adult, none the less.

DON’T try to convert me, that is a step too far, even if you have righteous motives they’ll be in vain. Here’s to looking forward to many conversations. Cheers,

Arnoagns

So kind of like a Unitarian? I hear they have better youth programs than the Satanists…

 

[MarcoPolo]

But I don’t typically share much about it. This is also not a thread made for the purpose of discussing it.

If a thread were created in which modes of worship of satanists were discussed, would you still remain hesitant to share?

 

[Imryl]

I suppose I could answer some questions, link me the thread should you decide to start one up. But I think you’ll be rather disappointed. Hollywood has a tendency to exaggerate things.

Now… Would I go into intimate detail? Probably not. Also, I can only speak for myself.

May I ask why you’re curious? It’s sort of not why I hang around CAF.

 

[Henning]

Greetings,

I am a new member here and am a LeVeyan Satanist. I believe in tolerance and I’m here for intellectual conversations about religion, nothing more.

Arnoagns

As a Satanist what are you most afraid of ?

Christians fear this,
Mat 10:28 “…fear Him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.”

 

[notsmart]

As a Satanist what are you most afraid of ?

Christians fear this,
Mat 10:28 “…fear Him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.”

Seems like at the moment, she/he is most afraid of replying to the thread they started.

 

[onmywayagain]

Seems like at the moment, she/he is most afraid of replying to the thread they started.

I agree. This person may just have come across a web-site and read through it and said this is a group that I can relate to and knows nothing about it. This person may be of a very young age and may not have much knowledge of what he/she is getting into. Just my opinion.

 

[Snow]

Greetings,

I am a new member here and am a LeVeyan Satanist. I believe in tolerance and I’m here for intellectual conversations about religion, nothing more. We’re not as harmful as we sound, not even close. And though our beliefs are different I know we can get along just fine. If you do wish to flame me, insult me, curse me to the depths of oblivion, or anything else, remember I am still a child. Well, essentially, technically a teenager. But not an adult, none the less.

Oh, great. I’ll alert the media.

zzzzzzzz.

 

[Sam_777]

Welcom Arnoagns to CAF,

How do you believe in a religion which was founded in 1966!, although you are a teenager as you said but that doesn’t make you ignorant about basic logic!, look at these snowflakes:

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Who engineered them!
There must be someone up there in heavens…
And who is the one who came from heavens who didn’t sin even once, who showed his love to everyone, who cured the ills and who raised the dead.

Think kid think, don’t let Satan deceive you, God have given you a well engineered brain, utilize it.

 

[Nepenthe]

Now now, Sam_777, I was concerned about a few people being patronizing, and you are playing into that. There isn’t any reason to think of snowflakes as individually ‘engineered’ any more than there is reason to think the Earth is less than 6000 years old. Tch, Arnoagns may be young, but that does not make him uneducated or incapable of rational thought and inquiry, whether you are or not.

And to Henning, she/he may not be afraid of replying to your questions - far more likely that examinations-time is inexorably approaching, and studying, rather than posting like mad on the internet, could very well be a priority! Patience - Rome did not fall in a day (just being a little snarky, Arnoagns, Imryl, etc - a few here consider me one of the Barbarians at the Gate too after all!)

 

[Sam_777]

There isn’t any reason to think of snowflakes as individually ‘engineered’ any more than there is reason to think the Earth is less than 6000 years old.

There is no way they can be in that precise shapes by themselves. Even you as a human can you come with such things…

Tch, Arnoagns may be young, but that does not make him uneducated or incapable of rational thought and inquiry,

I agree but when Satan is involved, then he will blind him/her.

 

[dzheremi]

I simply cannot understand why someone would be a Satanist. It seems that every Satanist that has come here that I have seen has made “tolerance” of their belief some sort bedrock of their posting. I’m sorry, May God help me, I just don’t see why any God-fearing Christian, Muslim, or Jew should tolerate Satan, or those who seek to consort with him.This is a problem of the western world: The idea that the dignity of the individual is inviolable is mixed up with the idea that their belief can never be questioned for fear that doing so should harm that dignity.

Frankly I am not concerned with being patronizing. I won’t even patronize the devil or those who believe that he is the right one to follow. If you follow Satan, you will plunge your soul into ruin. It’s a fact. There is no positive side to it at all. That is very clear, I hope.

Satan has no power, and there is no future life in him. Even in Rev. 20 when he is released from his prison, it is only after God allows, and even then his reign still ends with his own defeat and unending torture. Surely this cannot sound like an attractive option to anyone…?

Lord, there are some things that I will just never, ever understand!

 

[Tomster]

Greetings,

I am a new member here and am a LeVeyan Satanist. I believe in tolerance and I’m here for intellectual conversations about religion, nothing more. We’re not as harmful as we sound, not even close. And though our beliefs are different I know we can get along just fine. If you do wish to flame me, insult me, curse me to the depths of oblivion, or anything else, remember I am still a child. Well, essentially, technically a teenager. But not an adult, none the less.

DON’T try to convert me, that is a step too far, even if you have righteous motives they’ll be in vain. Here’s to looking forward to many conversations. Cheers,

Arnoagns

Do you believe Satan had a beginning or do you believe that Satan has always existed? Give evidence please.

 

[MarcoPolo]

I suppose I could answer some questions, link me the thread should you decide to start one up. But I think you’ll be rather disappointed. Hollywood has a tendency to exaggerate things.

Now… Would I go into intimate detail? Probably not. Also, I can only speak for myself.

May I ask why you’re curious? It’s sort of not why I hang around CAF.

I don’t get my theology or demonology from Hollywood. But, if you worship the devil (as you said), and the devil is God’s enemy, there is some curiosity there. Perhaps it’s why you hang around CAF.

 

[khutcheson]

I simply cannot understand why someone would be a Satanist. It seems that every Satanist that has come here that I have seen has made “tolerance” of their belief some sort bedrock of their posting. I’m sorry, May God help me, I just don’t see why any God-fearing Christian, Muslim, or Jew should tolerate Satan, or those who seek to consort with him.This is a problem of the western world: The idea that the dignity of the individual is inviolable is mixed up with the idea that their belief can never be questioned for fear that doing so should harm that dignity.

Frankly I am not concerned with being patronizing. I won’t even patronize the devil or those who believe that he is the right one to follow. If you follow Satan, you will plunge your soul into ruin. It’s a fact. There is no positive side to it at all. That is very clear, I hope.

Satan has no power, and there is no future life in him. Even in Rev. 20 when he is released from his prison, it is only after God allows, and even then his reign still ends with his own defeat and unending torture. Surely this cannot sound like an attractive option to anyone…?

Lord, there are some things that I will just never, ever understand!

AMEN

Why in the world are we so respectful to a philosophy that defines itself by it’s opposition to God? Why do we rip other Christians apart based on what amount to minor disagreements over theology but bend over backwards to be respectful to those who seem to set themselves up in opposition to God?

 

[Imryl]

AMEN
Why in the world are we so respectful to a philosophy that defines itself by it’s opposition to God?

I suppose you should ask yourself, “What is the purpose of Catholic Apologetics?” Can you tell me?

Some are hostile to Christianity because they have some prior misconception about what it all means, assuming they even know. Its the same reason why you’ll find some Christians that are hostile toward Catholicism. Ignorance.

So…

If you start barking back and forth with someone who just doesn’t understand you’re going to hit an immovable brick wall.

I can tell you why many people don’t like they “idea” of Catholicism and Christianity *( …I say like it’s some big secret… ) *They believe it takes the fun out of life, there are too many rules, that it was made up 2000 years ago to keep people in line, and a infinite number of other reasons.

It only get’s more complicated when you involve other Christian denominations: Who has the authority to interpret? What is literal, what is symbolic, allegoric, etc? We’ve all heard the “usual” arguments so I’m not going to spend time going through all of them.

The point of this post …

Are you going to dismiss everyone who just “doesn’t get it?” No one is asking you to support a Satanist’s philosophical point of view. You are only asked to treat the person with respect. It sort of returns to the idea that every man, woman, and child is made in the image and likeness of God, but going into that would make this post much much longer.

“Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect” (1 Peter 3:15)

So if you ask my opinion… Go ahead, alienate people. Be rude. Be dismissive, abusive, and hateful. Get angry. Get indignant. Better yet, ignore them completely. Because if you won’t talk to them, someone will.

Why do we rip other Christians apart based on what amount to minor disagreements over theology <…>

Stop right there. That is a very good question. Why do you?

But, if you worship the devil (as you said), and the devil is God’s enemy, there is some curiosity there. Perhaps it’s why you hang around CAF.

Of course I’m curious, and that is why I read these forums. Although I’ve been sick since Monday which is the reason for these frequent posts. I usually don’t post much at all.

I It seems that every Satanist that has come here that I have seen has made “tolerance” of their belief some sort bedrock of their posting.

Tolerance isn’t the bedrock, foundation, brick or morder(sp!) of my presence. But I’ll just dismiss people who can’t hold a decent conversation.

 

[notsmart]

Hello again Arnoagns! Well, since I posted yesterday I finally did buy a tree. Now its just a matter of the skirt and ornaments and an angel for the top. Mabye a timer thing for the lights? I did not check into that aspect since its LED and I did not even read all the fine print about it, and just jumped on it because it was a good price. Yes, there is a reason for my name here.
So, I bet you are wondering why I am telling you all this.
I am going to lean on this as a reason:
“Here’s to looking forward to many conversations”
Since I saw no limit per poster I decided to post today also.
So, what have you been doing?

 

[dzheremi]

Let me clarify my previous post by way of a true story…this happened in my life, and it always informs my way of handling situations like this.

When I was in High School, many years ago now, my best friend got involved in experimenting with drugs. This is not so unusual, of course, since teenagers are likely to experiment with various things that they eventually give up on the way to finding their true selves and the ways that they really want to live as adults. So I wasn’t very worried at first. A joint here and there, while not the sort of thing that I would personally do, is realistically not going to turn my friend into some sort of aimless bum. He never seemed to do it alone, only at parties he would go to, and he would never pressure me to do it. So I figured there was no problem, since he would eventually give it up.

Fast forward a year or two and his occasional marijuana joint has turned into a line or two of cocaine at those same parties. A while later, it stopped being one or two and turned in to three or four. Eventually, the parties weren’t even necessary. He would just do it whenever he felt like it. And he felt like it a lot. Before I could say “hey, you’re getting in over your head! I’m your best friend, and I don’t want you to destroy yourself! Please get help before it is too late”, he was a full-blown addict.

Under the influence of drugs, many things happened to him. He was diagnosed with Paranoid Schizophrenia (I don’t know if this can be directly tied to drug abuse, but in the still-growing, chemically-sensitive brain of an adolescent, it certainly cannot have helped), ran away from home at 16 with some girl he had found somewhere, and eventually ended up in a mental hospital where he was mercifully FORCED to detox and take his psych medication before he would be released back to his parents (since he was still a minor).

All this happened to my best friend, and I can’t help but today feel great pangs of remorse for everything I could have said but didn’t just because I didn’t want to lose him as a friend, because I knew him before any of that happened and so I knew what a good person he really was, and besides since he never did his drugs in front of me, how could I have realistically stopped him from doing them? I don’t know, but I sure learned a lesson from that whole experience: DON’T STAY SILENT WHILE PEOPLE YOU LOVE SUFFER. It does not matter what the reason is! What if my friend had died? He very well could have, probably WOULD have, and while I can feel glad that I did many things right during this time (I took all the collect calls at 3 in the morning from the gutter and later the mental hospital…I figured that when I chose to call me, I was effectively his chosen connection to the outside world, and could not in good conscience refuse him), ***I will be damned *** if I ever forget these lessons and let other people go on the path to destruction just because no one can physically stop them from exercising their free will in ways that will destroy them and those around them.

Satanists are NOT my best friends, of course, but the same principle applies. Especially in this case, since the poster has stated that they are very young…there is still time for this person! They are (or were) here because they are searching for something other than what they know, and that is a very good sign! It is my duty, as it is all of ours, to speak up for the Lord…not for ourselves, not for our own glory or sense of feeling “superior” (we aren’t), but for the souls of those who are lost. I have seen and know very intimately what WILL happen when this responsibility is not assumed…it only leads to ruin. I personally cannot stomach making that same mistake again. I wasn’t in the Church back then, but now I am and there is NO excuse. None.

If I need to tell someone in very simple, direct language that they are on a road to nowhere, I will. If that offends them or makes me seem intolerent, then I don’t know what to say…I don’t tolerate Satan, so I guess they’re right. I will try to do it, as 1 Pet. commands, with gentleness and respect, but I will not confuse that with saying that worshipping Satan is something other than what it is (e.g., a huge mistake). That is even worse than any preceived disrespect to the Satanist, because that would disrespect the truth.

 

[sambos671]

Greetings,

I am a new member here and am a LeVeyan Satanist. I believe in tolerance and I’m here for intellectual conversations about religion, nothing more. We’re not as harmful as we sound, not even close. And though our beliefs are different I know we can get along just fine. If you do wish to flame me, insult me, curse me to the depths of oblivion, or anything else, remember I am still a child. Well, essentially, technically a teenager. But not an adult, none the less.

DON’T try to convert me, that is a step too far, even if you have righteous motives they’ll be in vain. Here’s to looking forward to many conversations. Cheers,

Arnoagns

Oi. Leveyan Satanist? I thought the satanic bible was about what you can do for yourself and that the conspet of Satan was rebellion against being held down and subjected. The tenent of the consept was to be self promoted through any means possible which would not include tollerance. Self promotion is often at the expense of others. Why do you think this is an acceptable way of life?