Hello, my name is Emmit, and I support the SSPX

[Onegin]

No. Not until the Catholic Church endorses the actions of AB Lefebvre. I stood back for a time, but this encroaches too closely on SSPX recruitment, which is strictly forbidden and will not go unchallenged.

I am scarcely a “confused” Catholic. Again, the phrase “highly recommended” is what prompted this comment. If someone “highly recommended” anything questionable, I would do the same.

pnewton, I don’t think it hurts to recommend the book, especially since it was written by the late Archbishop and therefore probably provides the best source for learning about his reasons for what he did and why the society exists. I’m sure there are books published by individuals in Rome that would give the other side of the story as well. But many people are curious about why the SSPX exists and so it is probably best to suggest they read something from Msgr. Lefebvre himself.

The poster did not suggest that one needs to agree with the book or that the book is recommended by the church (or that he is a representative of the church) and therefore it seems to be merely a personal recommendation which one can either take or leave.

Either way, the reaction seems a bit unwarranted. It is hardly recruiting someone to the SSPX to suggest a resource written by the founder of the society. And while the Archbishop in the book defends the TLM, he doesn’t suggest that one should start attending the SSPX as a conclusion of that.

In any event, it’s a good book and raises some interesting questions even if one ultimately disagrees with the conclusions drawn.

 

[Seminarian_Matt]

I have the nothing against the SSPX people personally, but they attack the Vatican and modern Church teachings all the time as being too lax. They are opposed to religious liberty and openness to the modern world/dialogue with al sides. If the SSPX were to get control in the RCC, would they try to do away with Vatican II and return us to the inquisition? I’m not trying to slander them, but the group says that these are things that the admire, support, and would like to bring back to the modern world. Should we Vatican II Catholics, while extending an arm of friendship be suckered into completely being taken over by them (Like the Lebanese Christians did with the Muslims they let into their country)?

Religious Liberty is a sin.

Have you read the Syllabus of Errors by His Holiness Pope St. Pius X? papalencyclicals.net/Pius09/p9syll.htm

The “Declaration on Religious Liberty of Vatican II” (“Dignitatis humanae” hereinafter DH) contradicted teachings of Gregory XVI, Pius IX, and Leo XIII.

Ecumenism is a false idea: sspx.org/Catholic_FAQs/catholic_faqs__theological.htm#ecumenism

Some information on religious liberty: sspx.org/miscellaneous/ab_lefebvre_preparing_the_council.htm

 

[StTommyMore]

Religious Liberty is a sin.

Have you read the Syllabus of Errors by His Holiness Pope St. Pius X? papalencyclicals.net/Pius09/p9syll.htm

The “Declaration on Religious Liberty of Vatican II” (“Dignitatis humanae” hereinafter DH) contradicted teachings of Gregory XVI, Pius IX, and Leo XIII.

Ecumenism is a false idea: sspx.org/Catholic_FAQs/catholic_faqs__theological.htm#ecumenism

Some information on religious liberty: sspx.org/miscellaneous/ab_lefebvre_preparing_the_council.htm

Ecumenism, understood rightly, is not a false idea. In John 16, Jesus prayed that we would all be one. You see Ecumenism has its roots in Scripture. That being said, there are right and wrong ways to practice Ecumenism. False Ecumenism says that all faiths are equal. This is not proposed in Vatican II, but it is proposed by liberals who have attempted to hijack Vatican II. We are still to evangelize. All religious liberty states is that conversions cannot be forced, which is keeping with St. Augustine. When you say that DH contradicted teachings, you need to provide documentation, rather than just saying it. Also conciliar documents carry a heavier weight than Encyclicals or Apostolic Letters. Furthermore, citations form SSPX.org will be obviously biased to your point of view. Perhaps something a little more balanced (Catholic.com or EWTN.com for example) could be agreed upon a s a mutually agreeable source.

 

[SarahR]

If the SSPX is faithful to the current (Pope Benedict XVI) and Magisterium then I will publicly post my wholehearted support to the Society for being as such.

 

[ProVobis]

If the SSPX is faithful to the current (Pope Benedict XVI) and Magisterium then I will publicly post my wholehearted support to the Society for being as such.

You’ll have to direct your concerns to the Vatican. There isn’t anyone here to tell you how those talks are going and what has been “settled” at this point.