…**Less than High school: HS Grad Some college college grad Post grad
You mean ‘black and loathsome,’ like my husband and my children? Thurifur, most of the time you have our beliefs correct; one of the few who do. Every once in awhile, though, I’d like to reach through the monitor and do your Mom a faver–and thwap you upside the head. How can someone who knows as much about our beliefs as you do, and are generally as fair about them as you are, pull something as asininely ‘anti’ as this?SameTry as I might, I’m not becoming white and delightsome, I’m still black and loathsome.
What, you think He is a black male? Orange, perhaps? Asian, or maybe Indian (either kind?)And of course, apparently Heavenly Father is also a white male, so (let’s not even think about the logical ramifications of that)…
I’m not sure what the bolded statistic has to do with divorce?
You’re right, I got caught up in the moment, and was “gleeful” and having “fun” like others were. Obviously we were joking (making fun of my skin color), but I apologize if I offended you.
Yes, Jesus was born Jewish, definitely. I was alluding to a speculation I have about the implications of the Father being an exalted man (as well as portrayals of the First Vision). But that’s neither here nor there.
No nee to apologize for “offending” someone with the truth. You know, the LDS offends me by constantly reminding me that I am black because of my sins in the pre-life. And I remain cursed for ever unless I become white.
A LDS by the username of ParkerD once told me that the New Covenant is by and for the Jews ONLY.
This can’t be a serious assessment. The Catholic Church is a worldwide Church (as is the LDS Church, but on a greater scale). The Catholic Church has already reached 1 billion members a few years ago (using official numbers of course), and yet worldwide membership is still increasing. And of course whether or not the Catholic Church is losing many members, Church membership is still increasing in the USA (let’s not even talk about elsewhere), due to converts and immigration (as the Pew study states). Hardly a “Titanic”. And convert retention is also important, and while I haven’t seen any studies on Catholic convert retention so far, we all know about the Mormon convert issues, especially outside of the USA.
Actually, the Pew study says this:
That’s corny. I said the Old Covenant was with the house of Israel, and the New Covenant was with the house of Israel and the Gentiles. I said Christ descended from the Jews, so that made Him born into the Old Covenant, but He fulfilled the Old Covenant and brought the New Covenant. I said the Jews received the New Covenant first, during the time Christ was alive.
This doesn’t make sense. Are you correlating whether a Catholic or Mormon thinks abortion should be legal or illegal to whether they will get an abortion? If so, that is illogical.
This has nothing to do with whether the actual LDS and Catholic Church authorities will do so. When we look at actual history, we see the real differences in doctrinal issues relative to “politics”/society. Remember, in neither of our churches does what the members think matter to what is doctrine.
I can believe it, though remember that we read the Bible during Mass, not including Sunday School or other venues.
But is this talking about private elementary, secondary, and college schools? It isn’t. It’s talking about Sunday School, and other programs like Institute, Seminary, etc. Catholics don’t have such structured programs besides Catechesis (whether it occurs during the week or on Sunday).
Actually this is a false assessment. While the Catholic Church is losing more members than any other religion in the USA, it also is gaining converts and especially members from immigration. The study itself says this, and it also states that the Catholic population is “holding steady” (using your words) at 25% of the USA population. So again, your assessment is false.
Jesus is the Covenant.
Ah yes, the “mystery” statement. Heard that many times from LDS. Yes, Catholics know that we don’t know everything about God or Heaven, and are content with that (eternal life and eternal vision with and of the Trinity is more than enough to think about). In fact, the Bible supports that we can’t know all about God.
Lots of confusing jibberish there.
We trust that God cares for our every need and heaven need to be for us nothing but being with God, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, forever. We TRUST that God is not going to prepare a place for us that we loathe and wish to leave.
I fully agree with what you have posted (above). All ‘WORD’ has been given unto us. We still have ‘spiritual intervention’, however, due to three ‘problems’;Councils are primarily to define existing teaching and/or doctrine. Many are ecumenical, which means that the CC would like the opinion of others to find a common ground of agreement on matters of teaching, truths, and doctrines. Some Councils are to interpret
scripture and to pronounce it infallibly, as authorized by Jesus. The Councils are guided by the Holy Spirit, as promised by Jesus. Whether or not they listen to the Holy Spirit is another matter.
As for revelation, it ended with Jesus. His teaching fulfilled all prophecy. Further public revelations no longer continue. Private revelation is for the individual and may, or may not be accepted or believed by others, or the church. The LDS church is wrong in stating that revelation is continuing, for by doing so they call Jesus a liar when He said he has fulfilled the Law ( this included revelation ). The Holy Spirit does not provide continuing revelation, for doing so would negate what Jesus has said.
PAX DOMINI
Shalom Aleichem
There is a reason we do not and cannot know much about heaven:
In light of this passage, I have to be very suspicious of anyone who thinks they know what heaven will be like and what we will be doing there.
That is fine with me. I don’t mind being on certain people’s ignore list. When you write, I will respond as I did in posting the proclamation on the family. It matters little if you respond directly or not.
Because of the confusion of the word, we have many churches, especially protestant churches all giving their own interpretation of the word. And then we have the catholic church giving its own interpretation. Plus, we have the Jehovas Witnesseses and the SDA’s and the mormons giving their interpretations.
I agree. And the Bible verses that LDS apologists use to support the 3 degrees of glory don’t actually work (though even if they didn’t, they could always refer back to the latter-day revelation as proof).
YES. Eternal life with the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (ALL of them), in the beatific vision, is more than enough to be amazed by and content with. Is what we will be doing specifically really that important in light of that? No.
“And if He called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scriptures cannot be broken…”
