Hey Catholic University Students- Did you get your condoms today?

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Today is World AIDS Day and I was curious if other Catholic Universities had condoms being passed out.

What are your thoughts?
 
I didn’t notice a difference in the already ridiculously high number of condoms my school passes out on a daily basis. I don’t go to a Catholic university, but even for a secular university I think they go a bit overboard. The other morning I was coming in for a morning class and there were two girls standing at the bottom of a staircase with bowls of lollipops and condoms. There are also bowls of condoms at the student help desks on each floor and in the health services waiting room. Also, condom machines in some of the washrooms.
I went back to school after having worked for a few years, and even ten years ago I don’t recall this kind of condom promotion going on in university.
 
fish90 said:
Today is World AIDS Day and I was curious if other Catholic Universities had condoms being passed out.

What are your thoughts?
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Other Catholic universities? What Catholic university do you attend?
 
I am not here to blast my university.

I have been trying to think of how I can be okay with this. The best reason I thought of is that the distributors had to have been on a public sidewalk.

The matter of fact is students received free condoms due to World AIDS Day.
 
fish90 said:
I am not here to blast my university.

I have been trying to think of how I can be okay with this. The best reason I thought of is that the distributors had to have been on a public sidewalk.

The matter of fact is students received free condoms due to World AIDS Day.
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Which university you attend IS relevant.

Was the *school *doing a condom hand-out? Was it a school-sponsored *group *doing a condom hand-out with unversity permission? Was it a school-sponsored group doing a condom hand-out *without *university knowledge/permission? Or, was it a condom hand-out that happened to be in proximity to or on campus done by a *non-university *group *without *permission/knowledge of the university?

These are pertinent questions.

The title of your thread seems to be intended to be provocative, and the content of your post #1 implied the university *itself *was behind the handing out of condoms.

So, you need to clarify the actual situation and details.
 
No secular university here (Poland) would engage in a condom handout, even though the majority of students probably find a lot of use for those. Universities here just don’t do that kind of thing and they limit themselves to education, research and mild activism, the latter generally being strictly identified with some specific educators, researchers or other people.
 
1ke said:
Which university you attend IS relevant.

Was the *school *doing a condom hand-out? Was it a school-sponsored *group *doing a condom hand-out with unversity permission? Was it a school-sponsored group doing a condom hand-out *without *university knowledge/permission? Or, was it a condom hand-out that happened to be in proximity to or on campus done by a *non-university *group *without *permission/knowledge of the university?

These are pertinent questions.

The title of your thread seems to be intended to be provocative, and the content of your post #1 implied the university *itself *was behind the handing out of condoms.

So, you need to clarify the actual situation and details.
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My friend told me these contraceptives were handed out in front of school buildings. I have no idea whether they were in any way involved with the university. I did see the evidence. The fact of the matter is condoms were handed out.

I would hope they were passed out on public property such as sidewalks (the school is very urban) as for there are a lot of other Christians evangelizing in the same manner on some days.

Does a Catholic University have the right to limit such things like the events given in this situation?
 
fish90 said:
Does a Catholic University have the right to limit such things like the events given in this situation?
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On private property? Yes. On their own property they may restrict solicitation/handing out of materials.

On city streets? No. On public streets, city ordinances would apply.
 
Instead of condoms why don’t they just pass out flyers stating that AIDS can be prevented. It’s called ABSTINENCE. wait until marriage. if you don’t have premarital sex, you can avoid STDS, HPV, and AIDS.

How come some folks esp. Planned Parenthood won’t embrace it. I mean, it’s common sense, if you play you will pay. sometimes with your life. :confused:
 
fish90 said:
My friend told me these contraceptives were handed out in front of school buildings. I have no idea whether they were in any way involved with the university. I did see the evidence. The fact of the matter is condoms were handed out.

I would hope they were passed out on public property such as sidewalks (the school is very urban) as for there are a lot of other Christians evangelizing in the same manner on some days.

Does a Catholic University have the right to limit such things like the events given in this situation?
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A Catholic University has every right and indeed duty to do so.

As far as “the situation” goes, one should look at facts. Condoms have been pushed as the solution to AIDS for what 15+ years? They have been pushed aggressively among high-risk populations–esp. gay men and IV drug users. So have AIDS infection rates declined among these high risk populations? No. High-risk populations are high risk populations because they engage in highly risky behavior, like having anonymous sex without condoms. Handing out condoms has done zero to stop AIDS. Some African countries are starting to recognize this and are instead promoting abstinence and monogamy and are starting to see new infection rates drop. Uganda is the best example. See lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/jul/08071112.html.

Sooooo–if someone (say the leaders of a Catholic University) were actually interested in addressing AIDS as a serious problem, handing out condoms would be the equivalent of treating a cancer patient with a couple aspirin and a glass of water. Instead they would work through education to stop or reduce high-risk behavior, especially in populations (gay men and IV drug users) who are especially prone to HIV/AIDS. Getting 1000 IV drug users into long-term treatment would do more fight AIDS than a train load of condoms.

So a Catholic University that hands out condoms to students is first trampling on the moral teaching of the Church. That moral teaching is–lo and behold–a very effective way to fight AIDS. Second, they are being dangerously naive and promoting the very thing that spreads AIDS in the first place–casual, anonymous sexual relations. If I attended such a college, I might start to question whether the people in charge had any business educating anyone since they seem to have missed some basic coursework in logic and moral reasoning. I’d be tempted to ask for my money back.

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**I do not have confirmation as to whether or not the university is to blame. ** Please do not take whatever I may have implied for the whole story.

I have no reason to doubt that the university has any right to stop evangelicals nor condom distributors from using the public sidewalks.

I wrote this thread out of my frustration. My apologies if this mislead anybody.
 
Maybe as an AIDS awareness project, Catholic Universities could provide some good, well thought out practical lectures on Abstinance. I’d be a lot happier with that. And yeah, I admit I’m a failure my self when it comes to not engaging in pre-marital relations. It’s one of my biggest regrets. Rather than passing out condoms, I’d really be happier seeing Catholic Universities everywhere reaffirming their commitment to the moral teaching of the Church.

Besides, as we’ve seen in Africa, and even in Thiland where the UN claims condoms turned around the AIDS situation. In reality, it’s curbing hyper-sexuality that truely puts an end to AIDS. In Africa Condoms are complete and total non-starter, the only effective effort has been the CC’s abstiance only effort in Uganda. In the UN’s one “success story”, the distrabution of condoms was coupled with a *significant decrease * in dangerous pre-martial relations. In praticular a sharp decline in the usage of brothals and other such servies. So one wonders, to what extent were condoms really curbing AIDS, in relation to the decrease in sinful behavour?
 
crohnie4life said:
Instead of condoms why don’t they just pass out flyers stating that AIDS can be prevented. It’s called ABSTINENCE. wait until marriage. if you don’t have premarital sex, you can avoid STDS, HPV, and AIDS.

How come some folks esp. Planned Parenthood won’t embrace it. I mean, it’s common sense, if you play you will pay. sometimes with your life. :confused:
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Considering the FACT that abstinence is the only 100% effect method of avoiding STDs one has to wonder why it is not endorsed. Doctors have a term to describe people that use condoms to avoid pregnancy, they call those people “parents”.

Not to mention the fact that the Catholic Church treats more AIDs patients world wide than the UN one might listen to the source with the most experiance with the disease.
 
SamH said:
Considering the FACT that abstinence is the only 100% effect method of avoiding STDs one has to wonder why it is not endorsed. Doctors have a term to describe people that use condoms to avoid pregnancy, they call those people “parents”.

Not to mention the fact that the Catholic Church treats more AIDs patients world wide than the UN one might listen to the source with the most experiance with the disease.
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I’ll tell ya why…b/c It’s all about $$!! :mad: It makes me so frigg’n sick. Places like Planned Parenthood would neeeever promote abstinence b/c it would cut into their business significantly. They don’t care *at all *about anyone’s health or well-being. The ppl that go to them are nothing more than dollar signs to them. When a woman gets an abortion or when men & women go there to get STD treatment, that generates billions of dollars. That’s why they’ll never endorse anything to do w/abstinence.
On the other hand, Catholics (& other Christians) are the people that actually DO care, want to promote abstinence, & are organizing and facilitating adoptions, and are on the front lines of making sure that women (and men) who’ve suffered at the hands of these so called “family planning” facilities, get the care they actually need. Sorry, hope I didn’t de-rail the thread. I see “planned parenthood” and I get all nuts (well, more so than usual) :o
 
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