Hiding behind sola scriptura?

[traillius]

some people try to beat others over the head with ideas they claim are based on sola scriptura. Please don’t take this the wrong way, but that to me seems like a kid saying " if my teacher didn’t say it, its wrong. " which I have plenty of experience with, being the father of an eight year old boy (" My counselor said…") Even the counselors had to tell my son, they weren’t the bosses of his parents. They were helpers. The bible is here to help us, but like the counselor, it never states that it has infinite power, or absolute authority. The bible isn’t some literary dictator. Its a text to help us grow. When we have an illness, we don’t read "gray’s anatomy " and then try to figure it out ourselves. If SS is true, why then would anyone believing in it even need to pray? Surely, simply reading the bible would be enough. We need more than just the bible, or there wouldn’t be a church in the first place.

 

[po18guy]

In Nehemiah 8:8, Ezra the Priest had to explain scripture so that the people could understand it. On the road to Emmaus (Luke 24:27), Jesus had to explain scriptural prophecy even to the two disciples, who had been with him all along! Didn’t Philip have to explain Isaiah to the Ethiopian eunuch (Acts 8:30-31)? As to scripture being its own “authority”, didn’t the devil quote scripture to Jesus (Matthew 4:6)?

Without proper interpretation, the bible is a foundation of sand.

 

[Charlemagne_II]

Sola scriptura is a farce.

Many of the the people who insist on it don’t even know the Scriptures. Here in Lubbock, Texas we have many bible-thumping Christians who preach that drinking wine is sinful. Have they read about the wedding feast at Cana, or the Last Supper, or the advice of Paul that a little wine is good for the digestion?

It is so tiresome to deal with this mentality when you know they don’t even know what they are talking about.

 

[CEM5]

Sola Scriptura? The Scriptura doesn’t even say that!

Instead the Bible (Scriptura) tells us to “obey our Bishops”, no where does it ever say: obey your Bible!!

Hebrew 13:17 Obey your prelates (that means “Bishops”) and be subject to them. For they watch as being to render an account of your souls: that they may do this with joy and not with grief. For this is not expedient for you.

2 Thess 3:14 If any one refuses to obey what we say in this letter, note that man, and have nothing to do with him, that he may be ashamed.

Matthew 18:17 RSVA
If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.

1 Timothy 3:15 RSVA
if I am delayed, you may know how one ought to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the truth.

And who gave us the “Scriptura” (Bible)? Why, the Church of course!!

Why follow the Church (Gods kingdom on earth shepherded by the Pope) rather than Sola Scriptura?

I am a devout Catholic, and Christ established the Church and her Doctrines. He is the King of kings, Lord of lords, and it is a Kingdom of God, not a democracy. The Church is the kingdom of God on earth, and as her members, we obey the King and His representative on earth (the Pope).

To better understand this aspect, a kingdom is ruled by a King. What he says IS. If you do not like the King’s ordinances and do not want His protection, then you are free to leave the safety of that kingdom and all it entails. You are on your own. That is your prerogative (free will).

As such, a King appointed (for life) a trusted “right hand man” - the Royal Steward. To this man was given the keys to the kingdom. (Recall that Jesus, our King, gave the keys to Peter). The keys opened and closed the gates to the kingdom, opened the royal treasury, and other doors. This “office” was so important that no one was permitted an audience with the king without first going through the Royal Steward. If he denied access to the king, then the person did not see the king. Furthermore, if the King was away, or indisposed, it was the Royal Steward who ran the kingdom and made sure the subjects were taken care of and followed the king’s ordinances. When the Royal Steward died, a successor was appointed: another loyal, trusted man was appointed as the King’s new Royal Steward and remained so until his death.

Thus, I belong to the Church because Jesus established her for the good of mankind and for our salvation. It is where we learn of the Gospel and Scriptures. We are to obey if we truly love God, and as a child is supposed to obey its parents, even though they don’t always understand “why” or think they (the child) knows better than the parent, bottom line: the loving, good, parent does know better than the child, and wants only what is best for that child. We are children of God, and do not always understand Our Father in heaven and why some things must be so for us to obey. But as children, we are immature when compared to the wisdom of God. He knows - we don’t.

As such, I freely choose to not only belong to God’s kingdom on earth, but to obey those God placed in authority. And that means ALL things - not just some even if I don’t fully understand. For who am I to question God’s wisdom and will? In the end, I want to ensure I remain part of His kingdom forever (Kingdom of Heaven). For not all who say “Lord, lord, and believe will enter”.

Mt 7:21 -
"Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.

Blessings