Hillary Clinton could still become president, Harvard professor says

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Harvard Law School professor Lawrence Lessig says there’s still a scenario in which Hillary Clinton becomes president. A candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination himself, Mr. Lessig envisioned a scenario in which President Trump resigns or is impeached, Vice President Mike Pence resigns or is impeached, and House Speaker Paul D. Ryan — who would be next in line — nominates Mrs. Clinton to be his vice president, and then steps aside to let her have the job. “This is one way that it could happen,” Mr. Lessig told Newsweek on Wednesday. “But that’s very different from saying I think it will happen, or should happen, or the evidence is there for it to happen.”
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Well, that seems about as likely as me becoming president.

It reads like a scenario of how the Browns can make the NFL Playoffs.
  1. Browns beat Steelers
  2. Jaguars beat Bills
  3. Chargers tie with Patriots
  4. Falcons beat Oilers by at least 17 points.
    …
  5. Browns win coin toss.
 
Paul Ryan picking Hillary Clinton has the same amount of probability as me being next Pope.
 
There’s a quicker way than he mentioned.

1: Mike Pence resigns.
2: Trump chooses Hillary as his new VP.
3: Trump resigns/is impeached.

That has 1 less step and is just as likely.
 
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Oh, HRC becoming president is click-bait, but Paul Ryan is a possibility.
 
HCTC said:
Oh, HRC becoming president is click-bait, but Paul Ryan is a possibility.
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Unless Mueller produces something truly jaw dropping (you know, actual treasonous activity on the part of the President himself), I see little likelihood of impeachment and removal, and I think, short of that level of misconduct on the President’s part, it would be an enormous mistake for a Democratic-controlled House (which is what we’re looking at after November) to proceed down that path. I’ve mentioned elsewhere that I feel that, short of some truly treasonous or criminal behavior on the President’s part, impeaching him would serve as a sort of Part 2 to the Clinton impeachment, and would begin to regularize and normalize the impeachment of sitting presidents when the opposing minority party inevitably regains control of the House.

My feeling is that the only time you should even bother impeaching a President is when your very certain that the Senate will convict. Anything less than that, and it’s just a sideshow that cheapens the whole process, puts Congress and the Administration in paralysis, and for what? Absolutely nothing. The President still survives the Senate vote, he’s still a sitting President, and other than being bruised, it’s been an enormous waste of time and resources.
 
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Unless Mueller produces something truly jaw dropping (you know, actual treasonous activity on the part of the President himself), I see little likelihood of impeachment and removal, and I think, short of that level of misconduct on the President’s part, it would be an enormous mistake for a Democratic-controlled House (which is what we’re looking at after November) to proceed down that path. I’ve mentioned elsewhere that I feel that, short of some truly treasonous or criminal behavior on the President’s part, impeaching him would serve as a sort of Part 2 to the Clinton impeachment, and would begin to regularize and normalize the impeachment of sitting presidents when the opposing minority party inevitably regains control of the House.

My feeling is that the only time you should even bother impeaching a President is when your very certain that the Senate will convict. Anything less than that, and it’s just a sideshow that cheapens the whole process, puts Congress and the Administration in paralysis, and for what? Absolutely nothing. The President still survives the Senate vote, he’s still a sitting President, and other than being bruised, it’s been an enormous waste of time and resources.
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It is not certain that the House will controlled by the Democrats next year. Weren’t the various pundits and pollsters predicting that the Democrats would win back the House and/or Senate in 2016?
 
Strange how many Democrats are still pining for a candidate who couldn’t beat a candidate they believe to be a sociopathic narcissist, with dementia, who didn’t really want to win the election. If you’re going to shoot for the moon, couldn’t you do better than Hillary Clinton?
 
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This is kind of a pointless observation. You could take out “Hillary Clinton” and insert the name of basically any other American over the age of 35, and it would also be true (and just as likely—which is to say, not very).
  • President Trump resigns or is impeached
  • Vice President Mike Pence resigns or is impeached
  • House Speaker Paul Ryan nominates [George Clooney, Clint Eastwood, Oprah Winfrey, Joe the Plumber, etc., etc.] to be his vice president
  • Ryan then steps aside to let him/her have the job.
Yes, that is how presidential succession works.
 
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There’s a quicker way than he mentioned.

1: Mike Pence resigns.
2: Trump chooses Hillary as his new VP.
3: Trump resigns/is impeached.

That has 1 less step and is just as likely.
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Or
  1. Trump resigns
  2. Pence chooses Hillary as VP
  3. Pence resigns
Also three steps.
 
I’d confidently lay down $100 that the Dems will control the House after mid-terms. No more than that, but at the moment, the Republicans are definitely on the back foot.
 
niceatheist said:
I’d confidently lay down $100 that the Dems will control the House after mid-terms. No more than that, but at the moment, the Republicans are definitely on the back foot.
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You’re on, loser donates to a local charity.
 
It’s a bet. This is about the House, however. I really don’t think the Dems are going to take the Senate.
 
  1. Trump is Impeached/resigns
  2. Every single American Citizen dies in a freak Tide Pods accident.
Done in two.
 
The ‘lizard people’ finally reveal themselves, and take over.
Hillary is their leader, so she’s in charge
I think this would be two steps.
 
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Unless Mueller produces something truly jaw dropping (you know, actual treasonous activity on the part of the President himself), I see little likelihood of impeachment and removal, and I think, short of that level of misconduct on the President’s part, it would be an enormous mistake for a Democratic-controlled House (which is what we’re looking at after November) to proceed down that path. I’ve mentioned elsewhere that I feel that, short of some truly treasonous or criminal behavior on the President’s part, impeaching him would serve as a sort of Part 2 to the Clinton impeachment, and would begin to regularize and normalize the impeachment of sitting presidents when the opposing minority party inevitably regains control of the House.
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I could not agree more. I don’t want to see the process of impeachment turned into a mere political tool, sort of a back-door “no confidence” vote. That would be a disaster for our political process.

We came a bit too close to that with the Clinton impeachment. Hopefully we’ve learned our lesson.
 
Inisfallen said:
I could not agree more. I don’t want to see the process of impeachment turned into a mere political tool, sort of a back-door “no confidence” vote. That would be a disaster for our political process.

We came a bit too close to that with the Clinton impeachment. Hopefully we’ve learned our lesson.
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One would hope. I get little sense that the Democratic leadership is interested in going down the impeachment path, and thus far the campaign seems to be shaping up, as expected to be about health care.
 
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