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I voted for Bernie but will vote for Hillary in the general election.

Just to take the time for a few positives for your benefit.

She played a leading role in providing health insurance for children whose parents could not afford it.

She has worked to investigate illnesses suffered by veterans.

As a U.S. senator, she was instrumental in securing $21 billion in funding for the World Trade Center site’s redevelopment and took a leading role in investigating the health issues that 9/11 first responders were facing.

As our Secretary of State, she visited 112 countries, helping to repair a badly damaged U.S. reputation left by George W Bush. She unveiled an initiative to fight global hunger.

Hope just for starters that helps!
Hillary’s track record is just … so … “mixed”.

breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/06/28/bombshell-911-huma-worked-hillary-saudi-charity-suspected-terror-funding/

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Hillary just seems so … “careless”.

Seriously.

Is careless the right word?
 
Hillary’s track record is just … so … “mixed”.
And corrupt one might suggest.

dailycaller.com/2016/05/10/family-who-made-billions-off-rise-of-oxycontin-are-clinton-donors/
We’re not just now ‘discovering’ this problem,” Clinton says on her campaign website in reference to the addiction epidemic. “But we should be saying enough is enough.
Purdue was represented in the case by Eric Holder, who would years later serve alongside Hillary Clinton in the Obama administration. Holder agreed that Purdue would give $10 million to West Virginia to be spent on programs to alleviate drug abuse.
In return, all the evidence uncovering Purdue’s dangerous marketing of OxyContin remained sealed and despite the judge’s opinion that Purdue should amend its labeling of the drug, nothing was changed.
In 2014, 80 percent of the 5.4 million individuals prescribed OxyContin were taking the drug on a 12-hour schedule. More than half of the drug users were being prescribed doses far beyond what is deemed safe by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
freebeacon.com/issues/hillary-clintons-prescription-pill-problem-oxycontin-inventor-clinton-foundation-donor/
 
Hillary just seems so … “careless”.
Is she more careless than Donald Trump who decided to tweet an antisemitic meme that has been traced to a white supremacist message board? He might not be antisemitic, but he has certainly shown himself on many occasions during this campaign to be very careless and keeps shooting himself in the foot.
Donald Trump responded on Monday to a swirling controversy over an apparently antisemitic tweet featuring Hillary Clinton which he subsequently deleted.
The image in Trump’s original tweet was traced by the news site Mic to a white supremacist message board. Trump’s tweet was deleted on Saturday and replaced by a similar image featuring a circle rather than a star.
theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/04/donald-trump-antisemitic-hillary-clinton-tweet
 
Is she more careless than Donald Trump who decided to tweet an antisemitic meme that has been traced to a white supremacist message board? He might not be antisemitic, but he has certainly shown himself on many occasions during this campaign to be very careless and keeps shooting himself in the foot.

theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/04/donald-trump-antisemitic-hillary-clinton-tweet
Trumps carelessness only damages his own reputation while Hilary’s put in jeopardy confidential info about national security. Of course trump is worse. Any democrat voter would know that.
 
Trumps carelessness only damages his own reputation while Hilary’s put in jeopardy confidential info about national security. Of course trump is worse. Any democrat voter would know that.
If Trump is so careless about what he says and tweets during the campaign, that may be a foretaste of what he would be like should he gain the power of the presidency. And such carelessness with friends and foes alike may be disastrous.
 
Just some passing thoughts and reflections…
Is she more careless than Donald Trump
No question, between Benghazi/Libya and her revealed involvement absolutely. There is no end to her carelessness and corruption, its difficult to find any position shes has been right about. From Iraq, to Isis, Libya, Benghazi, Russia, Egypt and the MB, the national security and here within the country her policy has been dismal. We have the massive DOC incarceration and sentencing, our nation wide epidemic of Oxycontin/private Big pharmacy, welfare and food stamps, fracking and jobs between nafta and TPP. Her failures through self profit orientated through the Clinton Foundation have been, one might argue the cause of most of americas largest issues today. One might argue america is headed to slavery under her policy. Thats without mention of abortion and various contrite policies she upholds which carelessly persecute religious liberty. The only religious liberty they appear to care about is Islam with their MB propaganda. The issue began a long time ago by both parties funding the Taliban and Wahhabism against Russia in the middle east. I’m sure to some degree this was seen as a positive and by that encouraged further involvement and for sure by Hillary. Clinton confessed that the US funded the terrorists they are fighting today, and has stated that the Saudis are the largest financiers of terrorism and with their own Wahhabist Islam let alone the basic MB propaganda the media feeds the country though her political lense of islam.
 
Trumps carelessness only damages his own reputation while Hilary’s put in jeopardy confidential info about national security. Of course trump is worse. Any democrat voter would know that.
Hillary’s carelessness and incompetence is well known while in office.
To compare Hillary’s carelessness to Trump during the campaign is ludicrous. She is dangerous.
 
Hillary’s carelessness and incompetence is well known while in office.
To compare Hillary’s carelessness to Trump during the campaign is ludicrous. She is dangerous.
Hillary was only Secretary of State and she did not make decisions about all the things you have claimed in previous posts (about US actions in Syria or Libya or with respect to the Muslim Brotherhood) all by herself. She made decisions, I’m sure, in conjunction with the President and the National Security Adviser and the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and various intelligence agencies, etc. The Benghazi probe chaired by Rep. Trey Gowdy (a Republican) did not reveal any new evidence of wrongdoing by Hillary Clinton. It blamed intelligence and military leaders more than Clinton for what happened in Benghazi. You make HRC sound more powerful than what she has actually ever been.
 
As our Secretary of State, she visited 112 countries, helping to repair a badly damaged U.S. reputation left by George W Bush.
This alone was actually a Big Deal - speaking from the perspective of a non-American. It won’t have been forgotten.

It shows that she is a diplomat, and if anyone thinks that isn’t important in today’s world… well, I invite them to think again and realise that the leader of the Free World really needs to be respected outside of the States.

Trump is not that person.

I know that a lot of people on CAF are totally against her for her domestic policies at least, but a HC presidency would go down very well outside of your country on the whole.

Obama was also well respected outside of CAF (and maybe the US, for all I know. I have no idea to what extent the people on CAF represent the country at large!)
 
Obama was also well respected outside of CAF (and maybe the US, for all I know. I have no idea to what extent the people on CAF represent the country at large!)
Not very well, actually. If they had been very representative of the country at large, Obama would not have been elected President of the US twice.
 
Hillary was only Secretary of State and she did not make decisions about all the things you have claimed in previous posts (about US actions in Syria or Libya or with respect to the Muslim Brotherhood) all by herself. She made decisions, I’m sure, in conjunction with the President and the National Security Adviser and the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and various intelligence agencies, etc. The Benghazi probe chaired by Rep. Trey Gowdy (a Republican) did not reveal any new evidence of wrongdoing by Hillary Clinton. It blamed intelligence and military leaders more than Clinton for what happened in Benghazi. You make HRC sound more powerful than what she has actually ever been.
as Secretary of State she was powerful, as senator of New York she was powerful, as the wife of a former president she is powerful and as the Democrat nominee for president she is powerful. best not to underestimate what she is capable of because of the power she holds.
 
as Secretary of State she was powerful, as senator of New York she was powerful, as the wife of a former president she is powerful and as the Democrat nominee for president she is powerful. best not to underestimate what she is capable of because of the power she holds.
Are the wives of all former presidents very powerful? Is Barbara Bush powerful? How about Laura Bush? I’ve never thought of any of them as being especially powerful. Is she more powerful as a former First Lady than most First Ladies because she was Bill Clinton’s wife?

Was Hillary Clinton powerful because she was a senator from New York? Are senators from New York more powerful than other senators? Remember, she was only one of a hundred senators. She was also a fairly junior senator during her time in the Senate, not having served there for all that long.

I still think that you’re magnifying how powerful she has ever been.
 
Hillary Clinton did legal aid work.
She did.

I don’t know why you would see this as a problem.

Really. She was appointed by the court to represent a defendant in a criminal case (a particularly nasty criminal case, to be sure). She did so. She represented her client zealously, as she was required to by the ethics of her profession.

Surely the accused are entitled to a defense, and a lawyer, right? And surely a lawyer representing a criminal defendant should do so to the best of her ability, right?

I really don’t see a problem here. And I’m not even a Clinton supporter.
 
The front cover says it all!
Indeed it does. The official word is that they were taking about family. Sure.

This was an egregious, appalling display of bad judgment by the Atty. General. It does not, however, surprise me, given that the Clintons will stop at nothing to get what they want; what they want now is for Hillary to be President. They are power-hungry and thoroughly corrupt, but keep getting away with it. We have an acquaintance who worked for them in Arkansas for a time, and she summed it up thusly; “they are NOT nice people.”

My husband and I just finished the book “Crisis of Character” by Gary Byrne, who was a Secret Service uniformed officer assigned to the Clinton White House. It is an eye-opening, unvarnished look at a “divisive, abusive, paranoid” Hillary Clinton who routinely shouted obscenities at those whose job it was to protect her and the President and who was given to throwing things - including a valuable, historic vase.

The information in this book should be all over every news outlet… but it likely won’t be. Just like Hillary should be indicted… but won’t.

I am angry beyond words that we are stuck with two completely unsuitable candidates for President.
 
Are the wives of all former presidents very powerful? Is Barbara Bush powerful? How about Laura Bush? I’ve never thought of any of them as being especially powerful. Is she more powerful as a former First Lady than most First Ladies because she was Bill Clinton’s wife?

Was Hillary Clinton powerful because she was a senator from New York? Are senators from New York more powerful than other senators? Remember, she was only one of a hundred senators. She was also a fairly junior senator during her time in the Senate, not having served there for all that long.

I still think that you’re magnifying how powerful she has ever been.
You are overlooking Hillary’s own political ambitions. I don’t think Barbara or Laura Bush considered seeking political office. Hillary is very power hungry as is Bill. To say Hillary is not powerful is very naive.
 
You are overlooking Hillary’s own political ambitions. I don’t think Barbara or Laura Bush considered seeking political office. Hillary is very power hungry as is Bill. To say Hillary is not powerful is very naive.
Almost all politicians are power hungry and I’m sure that Donald Trump is power hungry as well. I don’t think Hillary and Bill are special in that regard.
 
Almost all politicians are power hungry and I’m sure that Donald Trump is power hungry as well. I don’t think Hillary and Bill are special in that regard.
Hillary and Bill have been politicians a lot longer than Trump. They have had years of practice.
 
You are overlooking Hillary’s own political ambitions. I don’t think Barbara or Laura Bush considered seeking political office. Hillary is very power hungry as is Bill. To say Hillary is not powerful is very naive.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Rodham_senior_thesis

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Haven_Black_Panther_trials

Hillary always has been a political activist for the extreme left and a defense attorney. She still thinks the same “revolution” is going on as Charles Manson did in their minds. From abortion to Sanger to Marx and to changing the law by breaking the law she now thinks she is arbiter of the law. Obama sees her as a revolutionary sister for the Panthers or something. While being investigated they are campaigning via Airforce One today! :eek:
 
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Horowitz
In January 1968, Horowitz returned to the United States, where he became co-editor of the New Left magazine Ramparts based in California.[11] During the early 1970s, Horowitz developed a close friendship with Black Panther Party founder Huey P. Newton. Horowitz later portrayed Newton as equal parts gangster, terrorist, intellectual, and media celebrity.[11] As part of their work together, Horowitz helped raise money for, and assisted the Panthers with, the running of a school for poor children in Oakland. He recommended that Newton hire Betty Van Patter as bookkeeper; she was then working for Ramparts. In December 1974, Van Patter’s body was found floating in San Francisco Harbor; she had been murdered. Horowitz has said he believes the Panthers were behind it. During the following years, he abandoned the radical left.
FrontPage Magazine today is an online conservative political website, edited by David Horowitz and published by the David Horowitz Freedom Center.

thepoliticalinsider.com/breaking-newly-discovered-letters-hillary-clinton-saul-alinsky-marxist-community-organizer/
Hillary Clinton, who is already the presumed front-runner for President in 2016, has a radical past, and details are only now bubbling to the surface.
Today, The Washington Free Beacon put together an excellent report about new letters between Hillary Clinton and Saul Alinsky, the infamous community organizer who wrote ‘Rules for Radicals.’ That book, which Alinsky dedicated to ‘Lucifer,’ became the handbook for racial agitators and left-wing political problem causers.
His efforts- which were just as evil as they were brilliant- were essential to the growth of the political left, including Marxism- as David Horowitz explains:
 
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