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_Abyssinia said:
Terry McAuliffe’s TPP comments do Clinton no favors

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Clinton excuses her change of mind about TPP by critiquing the wording of the final version. Of course, if she becomes president, she will likely change three words and declare it “perfect for the country” if, of course, Bill Clinton receives a large speaking fee from the countries or companies who have an interest in it.

That’s one of the troubles Democrats should have with Hillary Clinton. No matter what she says now or ever, her decisions can and probably will always be determined by who pays her the most.
 
Ridgerunner said:
Clinton excuses her change of mind about TPP by critiquing the wording of the final version. Of course, if she becomes president, she will likely change three words and declare it “perfect for the country” if, of course, Bill Clinton receives a large speaking fee from the countries or companies who have an interest in it.

That’s one of the troubles Democrats should have with Hillary Clinton. No matter what she says now or ever, her decisions can and probably will always be determined by who pays her the most.
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It’s kind of scary when the Democrat is likely to have the better position on trade than the republican. Although, the democrat will have to lie about it to get elected.
 
stinkcat_14 said:
It’s kind of scary when the Democrat is likely to have the better position on trade than the republican. Although, the democrat will have to lie about it to get elected.
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That’s what I thought, too. She’s actually more ‘conservative’ on trade and foreign policy than he is. He is taking the party in a direction that is isolationist and protectionist, as if the past seven decades never happened. It’s the biggest political realignment of my lifetime, that’s for sure.
 
qui_est_ce said:
And that’s the problem with the HHS mandate and the Obama administration. They have no tolerance for people who disagree with them on abortion and birth control.
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They offered a compromise. Under the compromise, religious employers could have certified they are opting out of the requirement by signing a form and submitting it to the government. The government would have then asked insurers to pay the cost of contraceptives.

The SCOTUS actually declined to decide whether the accommodation violated the employers’ religious rights by forcing them to authorize the contraception coverage even if they are not paying for it.

Stay tuned.

reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-contraception-idUSKCN0Y71LF
 
ComplineSanFran said:
I think it is always good to hear both sides of the story and to understand why people believe and act the way they do. We are a country of many peoples and we have to live with each other. If we can’t understand differing belief systems (religiously as well as socially), then we are poorer for it.
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Well said, ComplineSan Fran. Not everyone believes and reasons the same way. That’s simply the truth. Yet we do nevertheless need to coexist. And by seeing that there are in fact differing views, I believe, can be a start in helping humankind to do a better job at that.
 
People here regularly dismiss anything sourced from Fox or National Review or any number of conservative sources without even reading them, because they are conservative.

And then they set up their strawmen of what conservatives really think, based on the talking points of people that they agree with.
 
Darryl1958 said:
People here regularly dismiss anything sourced from Fox or National Review or any number of conservative sources without even reading them, because they are conservative.

And then they set up their strawmen of what conservatives really think, based on the talking points of people that they agree with.
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The reverse is at least as true in the other direction if not more so.
 
Sy_Noe said:
The reverse is at least as true in the other direction if not more so.
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Not really,since we as a country have the liberal agenda shoved down our throats twenty four seven.The party of tolerance,is really most intolerant of any view that goes against them.So it is all fine and dandy to spout feel good platitudes ,yet actions are what count and with the liberal Dems they don’t walk the talk.
 
Darryl1958 said:
People here regularly dismiss anything sourced from Fox or National Review or any number of conservative sources without even reading them, because they are conservative.

And then they set up their strawmen of what conservatives really think, based on the talking points of people that they agree with.
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Well said, Darryl.
 
Sy_Noe said:
The reverse is at least as true in the other direction if not more so.
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Not at all. That is a false assumption.
I seldom see something being rejected without being read because it comes from the New York Times or Huffington Post. Try to come up with any similar terms for left wing MSM journals such as what is daily fare here, such as FAUX News, or the Daily Heil.

Pointing out that a point of view has a left wing does not mean that people have refrained from reading it. Indeed, the left wing point of view is default now in the media and in the education system. It is impossible NOT to be exposed to the left wing point of view on its own terms. It is imbued into the very culture.
 
Sy_Noe said:
I watched Donald Trump’s in full. And I will watch some of the ones at the DNC as well.
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I watched as much of the Republican Convention as I could and am doing the same with the Dems! It’s all fascinating.
 
Sy_Noe said:
Not unless you consider it a contortion that your church teaches anyone baptized Catholic to always be Catholic. If you do, then your issue would seem to be with your church’s teaching. There are no mental contortions required because according to Catholic teaching, Tim Kaine is a Catholic.
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And according to his priest,a very devout Catholic - actively involved in his parish. I think Kaine is a great choice - he was my first choice for her and Booker, my second.
 
Jeanne_S said:
She said she doesn’t vote a party line so who knows maybe she will speak at the dem convention too;)
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She and her siblings were registered Dems for years until their Dad joined the Republican ticket as a candidate.
 
Little_Sheep said:
And according to his priest,a very devout Catholic - actively involved in his parish. I think Kaine is a great choice - he was my first choice for her and Booker, my second.
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His Bishop seems to differ. I suspect he is not actively involved in his parishes pro-life ministry . Please let’s not try to pretend that one can reconcile his pro-abortion stance with the teachings of the Catholic Church
 
I heard HRC on TV today make the following statement which I believe she made last year regarding abortion. “… cultural and religious beliefs have to change.” In other words, the CC better get on board and change their teachings on abortions.

Seems like Kaine already flip-flopped and now favors repeal of the Hyde Amendment to allow Medicare to pay for women’s abortion. So much for being a “devout” Catholic. This from Christianity Today “Catholic priest bans Hillary Clinton’s VP bet Tim Kaine from taking Holy Communion in his church.” Wow, I wonder if Kaine has been approached on this. Why would a priest do such a thing to a “devout” Catholic?

In contrast see this from Trump. It seems like Christians and especially Catholics can be shut up by threats, but the time has come to say “NO MORE!”
 
meltzerboy said:
Actually, Clinton promised she would make campaign finance reform a top priority in her first 30 days in office. She also has a plan, similar to Sanders’, for free tuition for community colleges. Whether, if elected, she will follow through on these promises is anyone’s guess.
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in addition to free college, we need to give them higher GPAs
 
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