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Padres1969 said:
Nope.

reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-sanders-whitehouse-idUSKCN0YV1UB

Plans to reduce middle class taxes in her first 100 days. Her website has similar verbiage with regard to her plan. Whether you believe either is of course up to you. But her stated position in multiple other sources is that there will be middle class tax cuts, not hikes.
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This detailed Forbes analysis disagrees with you
forbes.com/sites/anthonynitti/2016/06/08/its-clinton-versus-trump-a-comparison-of-the-final-two-tax-plans/#e94604f1c233

Maybe she’s making promises about a new TBD plan? I don’t trust that, do you?
 
Ridgerunner said:
As with Obamacare, somehow it’s always the middle class that gets hit. That’s where the money is because of the numbers of people. One way or another, the middle class will pay for whatever segment of the population she wants to buy with supposed benefits.
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Is giving many people who had serious health issues but had no healthcare at all merely a “supposed benefit”? Going to the emergency room is not a substitute for having regular healthcare. For people who couldn’t previously afford to go to a doctor or get medication for serious health problems, I don’ think that Obamacare, especially the expansion of Medicaid, was just a “supposed benefit”. It’s inexplicable that almost every other wealthy country had some form of universal healthcare except the US.
 
Thorolfr said:
It’s inexplicable that almost every other wealthy country had some form of universal healthcare except the US.
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It is, isn’t it?

I’m always amazed when I hear some of the same people who frequently and often express the sentiment that “America is the greatest country on earth” change their tune when asked why we can’t provide for the health care of all of our citizens and proclaim just as loudly “we can’t do that.”

I’m not pointing fingers at anyone here, and I was no fan of the Clintons’ overly complex health insurance plan, but it does seem like sometimes there’s a bit of a disconnect between faith in good old American know-how and get-it-done ability and lack of faith in our ability to figure out this problem and get it done.
 
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Thorolfr said:
Is giving many people who had serious health issues but had no healthcare at all merely a “supposed benefit”? Going to the emergency room is not a substitute for having regular healthcare. For people who couldn’t previously afford to go to a doctor or get medication for serious health problems, I don’ think that Obamacare, especially the expansion of Medicaid, was just a “supposed benefit”. It’s inexplicable that almost every other wealthy country had some form of universal healthcare except the US.
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While I do think more yet still needs to be done in order to reach universal coverage as there are still sick people who don’t make enough to qualify for a subsidy but who also do not qualify for Medicaid in their states. So they are left without. And there are others having to meet high deductibles in order to have lower premiums. Or visa versa, in order to have a low enough deductible, they are paying high premiums. But I nevertheless give you a 👍 for your post.
 
Sy_Noe said:
While I do think more yet still needs to be done in order to reach universal coverage as there are still sick people who don’t make enough to qualify for a subsidy but who also do not qualify for Medicaid in their states. So they are left without. And there are others having to meet high deductibles in order to have lower premiums. Or visa versa, in order to have a low enough deductible, they are paying high premiums. But I nevertheless give you a 👍 for your post.
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I agree that Obamacare has a lot of problems, and it is unfortunate that Medicaid was not extended in many red states because of Republican opposition there. I would have preferred some form of true universal healthcare, perhaps some kind of “Medicare for all”. But Obamacare appears to have been the best that could be achieved at the time. The fact that insurance companies can no longer exclude people because of pre-existing conditions is itself a big improvement.
 
Thorolfr said:
I agree that Obamacare has a lot of problems, and it is unfortunate that Medicaid was not extended in many red states because of Republican opposition there. I would have preferred some form of true universal healthcare, perhaps some kind of “Medicare for all”. But Obamacare appears to have been the best that could be achieved at the time. The fact that insurance companies can no longer exclude people because of pre-existing conditions is itself a big improvement.
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I couldn’t agree more.
 
Thorolfr said:
Is giving many people who had serious health issues but had no healthcare at all merely a “supposed benefit”? Going to the emergency room is not a substitute for having regular healthcare. For people who couldn’t previously afford to go to a doctor or get medication for serious health problems, I don’ think that Obamacare, especially the expansion of Medicaid, was just a “supposed benefit”.
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Obama care has not solved this problem.
My daughter still cannot afford to go to a doctor, but now is forced to pay a tax penalty for not being able to afford insurance. Not only is she missing out on the “supposed benefit”, she is paying a penalty for being unable to afford it.
 
jeannetherese said:
Obama care has not solved this problem.
My daughter still cannot afford to go to a doctor, but now is forced to pay a tax penalty for not being able to afford insurance. Not only is she missing out on the “supposed benefit”, she is paying a penalty for being unable to afford it.
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I wonder how many more are in the same situation as your daughter. there is something very wrong with this picture.
Obama has forgotten about these people.
 
DeniseNY said:
Clinton Foundation drug contracts intersected with State Department work

washingtonexaminer.com/clinton-foundation-drug-contracts-intersected-with-state-dept.-work/article/2598459
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Her constant lying just continues to shock me. In your link she now claims:
Clinton denied on Sunday that she participated in any foundation activities while she served as secretary of state, employing a new defense of its operations . . .
Yet she deleted ~30k emails that I understand were mainly to/from the Clinton Foundation.
 
Theo520 said:
Her constant lying just continues to shock me. In your link she now claims:
Clinton denied on Sunday that she participated in any foundation activities while she served as secretary of state, employing a new defense of its operations . . .
Yet she deleted ~30k emails that I understand were mainly to/from the Clinton Foundation.
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Indeed it is a problem… but not for her supporters.
 
Inisfallen said:
It is, isn’t it?

I’m always amazed when I hear some of the same people who frequently and often express the sentiment that “America is the greatest country on earth” change their tune when asked why we can’t provide for the health care of all of our citizens and proclaim just as loudly “we can’t do that.”

I’m not pointing fingers at anyone here, and I was no fan of the Clintons’ overly complex health insurance plan, but it does seem like sometimes there’s a bit of a disconnect between faith in good old American know-how and get-it-done ability and lack of faith in our ability to figure out this problem and get it done.
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“Pro-life” is a healthcare issue and I’m still amazed that it isn’t being treated as such by more in the pro-life community. If Hillary Clinton’s plan specifically includes healthcare options for families “regardless of immigration status” – that is, healthcare options that typically cover prenatal care and delivery – when Trump’s plan specifically EXCLUDES the same coverage for unborn babies if their mothers aren’t U.S. citizens – that’s not “pro-life.” Being “pro-life” means your policies help the mother (regardless of immigration status) choose life and not risk miscarriage because the unborn baby wasn’t conceived in the U.S.
 
7_Sorrows said:
:bigyikes::bigyikes: I hope this will be investigated.
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Won’t happen, and even if it did, nothing would come of it besides another “tarmac summit”.

As I understand this, big pharma companies were donating to the Clinton Foundation and Hillary Clinton’s campaign funds at the same time they were lobbying for (and getting) funding from the State Department to purchase their products.

If you did something like that, you would be in jail.
 
What a tangled web we weave when we practice to deceive…
How does this woman sleep,at night???
 
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