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Jenna_Pope said:
The polls scare me. Perhaps HC will be indicted for perjury or some other felonious act (there are many to choose from) and Trump will be elected.

Thoughts?

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The attorney who was White House Counsel for Nixon, John Dean gives a detailed account of the false charges against Hillary and the distortions and lies they have been spreading to make them.

newsweek.com/squalid-case-against-hillary-and-her-emails-492017

It is an abuse of power and their effort to criminalize politics could one-day blowback on them and result in their going to jail on bogus charges. They are employing a tactic that could undermine democracy, so it is appropriate to get the facts out.

Unfortunately, to explain these seamy tactics takes a bit more space than the normal column, but the facts need to be placed on the record.

Without understanding the underlying testimony involved, it is not possible to appreciate the falsity and absurdity of the charges against Mrs. Clinton. It is easy to call someone a liar or a perjurer. Not so easy to unpack the charges.
 
There has been a lot of coverage from the News Media of some extremists groups supporting Trump.

Communist Party USA has endorsed Hillary Clinton for the 2016 Election.

Zero coverage from the News Media about that; and no questions from the News Media asked to Hillary Clinton about it.
This is where we need to be in the next 100 days and ongoing. To win a landslide in this election, to defeat Trump and the Republicans is a giant task. We are setting the bar high. We can do it if we stick together . . .
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The most persuasive argument to convince many working-class and struggling people to register and to vote is a simple comparison of the positions of Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. At stake is the existence of a Department of Education, Environmental protection, voting rights, union rights, immigrant rights, health and safety, abortion rights, threat of nuclear war and the Supreme Court to name a few. The Voting Rights decisions that just took place in the lower courts are just one indication of how important the Supreme Court is.
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cpusa.org/article/forward-to-defeat-trump/
The leader of America’s most prominent communist party credits Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders with helping usher socialism into the political mainstream, but says it’s essential to back Hillary Clinton if she defeats Sanders in the Democratic presidential primary.
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John Bachtell, national chairman of the Communist Party USA, says he cast a ballot for Sanders in the Illinois primary in March, but that the self-styled democratic socialist’s loyal backers should temper their criticism of Clinton as a warmongering Wall Street puppet.
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usnews.com/news/articles/2016-05-31/communist-party-leader-voted-for-sanders-will-back-clinton

More about Communist Party USA: Former CPUSA Leader:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Davis
 
Dwyer said:
There has been a lot of coverage from the News Media of some extremists groups supporting Trump.

Communist Party USA has endorsed Hillary Clinton for the 2016 Election.

Zero coverage from the News Media about that; and no questions from the News Media asked to Hillary Clinton about it.

cpusa.org/article/forward-to-defeat-trump/

usnews.com/news/articles/2016-05-31/communist-party-leader-voted-for-sanders-will-back-clinton

More about Communist Party USA: Former CPUSA Leader:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Davis
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This should surprise no one, particularly since the Dem party rigged the outcome of whom they planned to nominate for their party…Clinton. That tactic is a communist one.
 
Stylteralmaldo said:
This should surprise no one, particularly since the Dem party rigged the outcome of whom they planned to nominate for their party…Clinton. That tactic is a communist one.
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That’s the first time I’ve ever heard “campaigning and convincing people to vote for you” described as “rigging the election”. Clinton, was, after all, the true choice of most of the democratic voters.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
That’s the first time I’ve ever heard “campaigning and convincing people to vote for you” described as “rigging the election”. Clinton, was, after all, the true choice of most of the democratic voters.
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Both alive and dead! 😃
 
LeafByNiggle said:
That’s the first time I’ve ever heard “campaigning and convincing people to vote for you” described as “rigging the election”. Clinton, was, after all, the true choice of most of the democratic voters.
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:newidea: Living, dead, ineligible or fictional! :dancing:
 
LeafByNiggle said:
That’s the first time I’ve ever heard “campaigning and convincing people to vote for you” described as “rigging the election”. Clinton, was, after all, the true choice of most of the democratic voters.
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You obviously missed the scandal leading to the fixed outcome at the Democratic convention guaranteeing a Clinton nomination. There’s plenty of coverage on the topic on the internet if you’re interested.
 
zz912 said:
I’m not sure you understand the concept of Big Brother from your response. A Catholic employer doesn’t wish to commit an evil act, so he doesn’t include contraception and abortion in the healthcare plan. That’s it. Now if an employee goes to the pharmacy and purchases contraception, he doesn’t know about it. If he/she uses said contraception, he doesn’t know about it. He’s not involved in it at all. At no point is the government involved, so Big Brother is unaware of all of this. Sounds ideal.

Now let’s take your preferred method. A Catholic businessman doesn’t wish to commit evil, so he either has to cancel the health insurance plan, or commit mortal sin by including such evils. He doesn’t wish to, but Big Brother is forcing him to commit evil.

Does this help explain what Big Brother is, and how your example doesn’t make any sense?
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Not really because for instance if a physician prescribes a female a contraceptive to treat a medical condition, that to me falls under healthcare. And once she is in the privacy of her home, I still don’t see how we are going to know if the woman who is not of the Catholic faith is using the covered item simply to avoid an unwanted pregnancy or not. And while I understand the Catholic employer’s religious view about evil, an employer of the Jehovah Witness faith might likewise believe blood transfusions are evil. I personally simply find it a complicated area and not as black and white. But not being certain if this topic falls under political candidates and campaigns and the election, I can’t keep discussing this with you due to the recent political post limit the CAF “powers to be” have placed on it’s membership. My stats show this is only my 5th of 10 allotted posts labelled today. Although some were about Louisiana. But I don’t know what a day constitutes on CAF, if a 24 hr period or the actual date or day. And in what time zone the day is counted. I’m in the ET but CAF may be in the PT. But I appreciate you trying to explain and you have done so the Catholic view well. Thank you. Blessings!
 
We fly to thy patronage, O holy Mother of God;
Despise not our petitions in our necessities, but deliver us always from all dangers,
O glorious and blessed Virgin.
Amen.
 
Stylteralmaldo said:
You obviously missed the scandal leading to the fixed outcome at the Democratic convention guaranteeing a Clinton nomination. There’s plenty of coverage on the topic on the internet if you’re interested.
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I know about the claims and suspicions. I along know that even if there was some rigging, HRC enjoys the support of Sanders, her only real opponent.
 
God of power and might, wisdom and justice,
through you authority is rightly administered,
laws are enacted, and judgment is decreed.
Assist with your spirit of counsel and fortitude
the President and other government leaders of these United
States.
May they always seek
the ways of righteousness, justice and mercy.
Grant that they may be enabled by your powerful protection
to lead our country with honesty and integrity.
We ask this through Christ our Lord.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
That’s the first time I’ve ever heard “campaigning and convincing people to vote for you” described as “rigging the election”. Clinton, was, after all, the true choice of most of the democratic voters.
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We’ll never know that when it was rigged against Sanders, now will we?
 
LeafByNiggle said:
I know about the claims and suspicions. I along know that even if there was some rigging, HRC enjoys the support of Sanders, her only real opponent.
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You might not be aware that people lost their jobs over the scandal. They are more than merely claims and suspicions.
 
Thorolfr said:
It’s not as if the Clinton Foundation is unique in associating itself with countries that have serious human rights problems. The US does this regularly, counting as major allies countries with serious human rights abuses including Egypt, Israel, Saudi Arabia, etc. On top of that, last year, Saudi Arabia was appointed to oversee an important panel on the United Nation’s Human Rights Council.

thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/22/why-is-saudi-arabia-heading-the-u-n-human-rights-council.html

Or just last month: “British government refuses to rule out re-electing Saudi Arabia to UN human rights council”

independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/saudi-arabia-human-rights-un-united-nations-uk-british-elected-behead-a7140501.html
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Sy_Noe said:
Not really because for instance if a physician prescribes a female a contraceptive to treat a medical condition, that to me falls under healthcare. And once she is in the privacy of her home, I still don’t see how we are going to know if the woman who is not of the Catholic faith is using the covered item simply to avoid an unwanted pregnancy or not. And while I understand the Catholic employer’s religious view about evil, an employer of the Jehovah Witness faith might likewise believe blood transfusions are evil. I personally simply find it a complicated area and not as black and white. But not being certain if this topic falls under political candidates and campaigns and the election, I can’t keep discussing this with you due to the recent political post limit the CAF “powers to be” have placed on it’s membership. My stats show this is only my 5th of 10 allotted posts labelled today. Although some were about Louisiana. But I don’t know what a day constitutes on CAF, if a 24 hr period or the actual date or day. And in what time zone the day is counted. I’m in the ET but CAF may be in the PT. But I appreciate you trying to explain and you have done so the Catholic view well. Thank you. Blessings!
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  1. The employer is not stopping the employee from purchasing the contraceptive. They aren’t expensive. She can buy it and use it in privacy and the employer doesn’t even know.
  2. If a JW wants to not include blood transfusions in their company insurance policy, I fully support them. Employees and potential employees should be made aware of such a lack of coverage, and if they choose to continue working there, they accept the terms of employment. I personally wouldn’t choose to work there, all things being equal. But others may. If the JW business doesn’t find enough workers, they’ll have to increase pay to offset this lack of coverage for employees.
Again, this is what freedom looks like. The freedom to make choices, even ones you disagree with.
 
Many donors to Clinton Foundation met with her at State
More than half the people outside the government who met with Hillary Clinton while she was secretary of state gave money - either personally or through companies or groups - to the Clinton Foundation. It’s an extraordinary proportion indicating her possible ethics challenges if elected president.
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