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zz912 said:
  1. The employer is not stopping the employee from purchasing the contraceptive. They aren’t expensive. She can buy it and use it in privacy and the employer doesn’t even know.
  2. If a JW wants to not include blood transfusions in their company insurance policy, I fully support them. Employees and potential employees should be made aware of such a lack of coverage, and if they choose to continue working there, they accept the terms of employment. I personally wouldn’t choose to work there, all things being equal. But others may. If the JW business doesn’t find enough workers, they’ll have to increase pay to offset this lack of coverage for employees.
Again, this is what freedom looks like. The freedom to make choices, even ones you disagree with.
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I just suppose my values extend beyond the freedom of a person to either not have, for instance, blood covered in their healthcare or collecting unemployment. But thanks anyway.
 
Giggly_Giraffe said:
God of power and might, wisdom and justice,
through you authority is rightly administered,
laws are enacted, and judgment is decreed.
Assist with your spirit of counsel and fortitude
the President and other government leaders of these United
States.
May they always seek
the ways of righteousness, justice and mercy.
Grant that they may be enabled by your powerful protection
to lead our country with honesty and integrity.
We ask this through Christ our Lord.
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Amen.
 
Every day, I am looking forward to joining my fellows in electing Hillary Clinton to be the next President of the United States.
 
O God, we acknowledge You today as Lord,
Not only of individuals, but of nations and governments.

We thank You for the privilege
Of being able to organize ourselves politically
And of knowing that political loyalty
Does not have to mean disloyalty to You.

We thank You for Your law,
Which our Founding Fathers acknowledged
And recognized as higher than any human law.
We thank You for the opportunity that this election year
puts before us,
To exercise our solemn duty not only to vote,
But to influence countless others to vote,
And to vote correctly.

Lord, we pray that Your people may be awakened.
Let them realize that while politics is not their
salvation,
Their response to You requires that they be politically
active.

Awaken Your people to know that they are not called to be
a sect fleeing the world
But rather a community of faith renewing the world.

Awaken them that the same hands lifted up to You in prayer
Are the hands that pull the lever in the voting booth;
That the same eyes that read Your Word
Are the eyes that read the names on the ballot,
And that they do not cease to be Christians
When they enter the voting booth.

Awaken Your people to a commitment to justice,
To the sanctity of marriage and the family,
To the dignity of each individual human life,
And to the truth that human rights begin when Human Lives
Begin,
And not one moment later.

Lord, we rejoice today
That we are citizens of Your kingdom.

May that make us all the more committed
To being faithful citizens on earth.

We ask this through Jesus Christ, our Lord.

Amen.
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meltzerboy said:
It looks like Hillary Clinton will either become POTUS or go to prison, perhaps together with Trump…in the same cell.
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What a great concept for a reality TV show. Or a fictional “reality” show.

:hmmm: What to call it?

When Dongeon Met Cellary?

Who’s Who in the Hoosegow?

Too Loud, Too Long, Too Bad and Two Bunks 🤷

:eek: ***- POTUS rhymes with Woe t’us!
 
**New Revelations Show a Nation for Sale Under Hillary Clinton
**

nypost.com/2016/08/23/new-revelations-show-a-nation-for-sale-under-hillary-clinton/
The Clinton Foundation was ostensibly set up to solve the world’s most pressing problems. Though it’s done some fine work, its most fruitful program has been leveraging Clinton’s position in the State Department to enrich her family, friends and cronies.
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It’s against federal law for charities to act in the interests of private business or individuals. Yet the Clinton Foundation secured high-paying gigs for its namesakes and helped for-profit corporations with family ties set up lucrative deals.
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This was detailed in an AP story from 8/23

Clinton State Department Stonewalled AP for Three Years

nationalreview.com/happening/439286/clinton-foundation-ap-report-meetings-delayed-three-years-state-department-associated-press
The AP sought Clinton’s calendar and schedules three years ago, but delays led the AP to sue the State Department last year in federal court for those materials and other records.” Three years ago. The long wait was in keeping with a practice of slow-walking such requests for information. In April, the State Department explained the fact that Clinton ignored 237 Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests by saying that she was sitting Secretary of State at the time the requests were filed.
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Sy_Noe said:
I just suppose my values extend beyond the freedom of a person to either not have, for instance, blood covered in their healthcare or collecting unemployment. But thanks anyway.
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And you demand your values be pushed on everyone else. And there’s no requirement for someone to be unemployed, you’re presenting a false dichotomy. Jehovah’s Witnesses are not the only potential employers in America, FYI. If you don’t like their healthcare plan, you are free to look for another job.
Little_Sheep said:
Every day, I am looking forward to joining my fellows in electing Hillary Clinton to be the next President of the United States.
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I’d rather remain faithful to Christ.
 
zz912 said:
And you demand your values be pushed on everyone else.
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Given that our discussion began on Catholics demanding their views about contraception and about what should or should not be covered in healthcare be forced upon all, and your own view that you would support blood not being covered in the case of a JW employer, I’m just going to assume you see the irony and perhaps we can simply agree there are difficulties that arise in satisfying everyone which I spoke of earlier. And if not, in any case I shall leave it at that and wish you the best.
 
Sy_Noe said:
Given that our discussion began on Catholics demanding their views about contraception and about what should or should not be covered in healthcare be forced upon all, and your own view that you would support blood not being covered in the case of a JW employer, I’m just going to assume you see the irony and perhaps we can simply agree there are difficulties that arise in satisfying everyone which I spoke of earlier. And if not, in any case I shall leave it at that and wish you the best.
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Not difficult at all,simply allow a religious exemption for those opposed to contraception,abortion,etc.Why is is ok to force these issues on people of faith opposed to them? You main arguing point is we the faithful are trying to impose our beliefs on others’ Seems an empty argument if we are not given the same consideration,don’t you agree?
 
Jeanne_S said:
Not difficult at all,simply allow a religious exemption for those opposed to contraception,abortion,etc.Why is is ok to force these issues on people of faith opposed to them? You main arguing point is we the faithful are trying to impose our beliefs on others’ Seems an empty argument if we are not given the same consideration,don’t you agree?
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As I have said it isn’t easy or simple to satisfy everyone. I’m at the point where I’m starting to believe it’s an impossibility.
 
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