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Uranage
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Those are some strong statements. What evidence do you have to back up such a claim?
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freedomm
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A qoute:
Idol Worship is prohibited in Hinduism:
i. Idol worship, which is very common amongst the Hindus, is prohibited in Hinduism. It is mentioned in Bhagavad Gita Chapter 7 verse 20:
“Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires they worship demigods i.e. idols.(Bhagavad Gita 7:20)
It is mentioned in:
ii. Svetashvatara Upanishad chapter 4 verse 19
As well as in:
iii. Yajurved Chapter 32 Verse 3
“There is no image of Him”
(Svetashvatara Upanishad 4:19, Yajurved 32:3)
iv.It is also mentioned in
Yajurveda Chapter 40 verse 9
“They enter darkness those who worship natural things (for e.g. air, water, fire, etc.). They sink deeper in darkness those who worship sambhuti i.e. created things (for e.g. table, chair, car, idol etc.)
(Yajurved 40:9)
You can surf this for details:
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Eileen_T
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I have friends who are Hindu. They are susceptible to Christian thinking, eg. the Beatitudes. In fact, my Hindu friends are more disposed to Christian Charity than many Christians I know.
This is common ground. One can start dialogue from there.
This is common ground. One can start dialogue from there.
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Uranage
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When I stated that Hinduism is idolatry I meant that the religion itself is idolatrous for it worships a “god(s)” that does not exist. Not that Hinduism as a system offically sanctions idolatry. There is only one God and that is the God of the Trinity: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The worship of any other god is not true worship, but idolatry. For the Lord said I am the Lord your God. You shall have no other Gods besides me. Unfortunately, this is what Hinduism has done by denying the Holy Trinity and the diety of our Lord Jesus Christ. For Christ proved His claim to diety by physically rising from the dead on that first Easter. Hinduism denies this most amazing fact. Thus it is not an overstatement to say that Hinduism itself is a false religion. There is no common ground. The Hindu is in need of the salvation of Jesus just as the Christian.
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ashok
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Uranage, this is not how u shud see Hinduism or any religion or faith or ism.
u shud judge any faith from where it is originated.
lemme give u an example. jews, now, decidedly have made their religion a racial religion. is this what Abram & Moses taught to them? is this what judaism is supposed to be? no.
there r Mormons now who in their typical minds, r the true followers of Christ & u r not. r they in fact following jesus? no. what jesus has to do with these mormons, anyway?
same thing with the catholics. catholics worship other things besides God. they have idols of virgin mary & her son in their houses of worship. is this what jesus taught? no. jesus is free from these things which is like sh ****, as per torah.
& we r told that jesus’ job was to maintain torah & law of jews’ prophets. if jesus was definitely a man approved by God, & atleast ur torah is the same torah of his days, then there is no reason to believe that he would allow idols of his or his mother which is like inviting a total destruction & disgrace from God.
u shud know 1st what a jew means.
jews of our age are divided in many sects. they all have different views. some r in favour of israel establishment. but many r totally against establishing any seperate state for jews b’cause they believe that it is their messia’s job to do it & offcourse their messia is not yet even born till now. all atrocities comitted by some jews who r called zionists r not real jews in their eyes. they r culprits. even Einstein disagreed with zionists. as such whoever is supporting these zionists r more criminal than zionists b’cause supporters r hypocrites b’cause they don’t even believe in judaism & they r simply encouraging “killers of their socalled saviour” to comitt mroe crimes by robbing the land of poor muslim/christian arab palestinians. as such zionists have already killed countless innocent babies & women & men of helpless poor muslim/christian arab palestinians in last 50 yrs by totally ignoring the will & demand of civilised people of this earth & the U.N.O resolutions.
did u see how these things get worst if u once adopt a false idea of any religion or faith or ism?
now, tell me what all these nonsense has to do with holy men approved by God, such as Abram or Moses or jesus? all these r free from what zionists r doing & what white racist christian america is doing by supporting these filthy zionists who r not even jews in their fellow jews who oppose any establishment of seperate state for jews before the arrival of their messia.
this is ur personal interpretaion & faith that came to the stage of world history after jesus & not from jesus. jesus did not teach this nonsense of three incestuous nature of god.
rationally & logically do u think God is limited just to 3 forms?
God is infinite. then my people who long after Vedic period came up with an idea of Trimurty which has infinte forms in nature, makes more “logical” sense than urs. b’cause urs is just 3 forms. even a child who has a brain to think can understand this & will pick my Trimurty idea & reject ur trinity if he is given only 2 choices.
ur church belief is: god is the father & the father beget the son thru a virgin & then son & father are same thing…this is nonsense…this is incestical in nature. it is all due to misunderstanding of jesus’ words & corruption that took place after jesus period. u may say no. but it is possible just like how even now ppl from ur christaindom coming with new ideas & interpretaion as they dig more ur “most ancient” copies of the books of the “Bible”, they were misguided when ur church formalised “canonical gospels” in the 4th century. little wonder why it took mroe than 3 centuries to canonised gospels is there were no disputes as to the authenticity of jesus’ message and teachings.
worshipping ONE GOD is what Hindusim too taught in the initial stage in the vedic period.
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ashok
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worshiping ONE GOD is what Hindusim too taught in the initial stage in the vedic period.
i’m not concerned about what later day Hindus say or fabricated new things, just like what mormons or j-witnesses came up with new ideas. what jesus has to do with all these later day “saints” or J.Witnsss or Koresh ppl & their unique interpretation? not every thing claimed as true teachings can be taken as true or fact b’cause all these cannot true at the same time b’cause they all differ each other.
jesus message is clear even after so many corruptions. Dr. zakir Naik explains it very nicely & precisely. thats why i love this man. he is honest. u must listen to him. he cleared up ur misunderstandings.
how Hinudism denied the holy Trinity? HInduism is in existence thousands of years prior to the birth of jesus thru a certain virgin mary in the middle east.
again, why followers of Hinduism whose religion was monotheistic in initial stage-vedic period, shud accept ur later day fabrication of Trinity idea, when their later day invention of their trinity (known as Trimurty) is more “logical” than urs?
both Trinity and Trimurty are later day inventions and have nothing to do with their prestine teachings of their original religions. now, why shud a misguided Hinudu who believes in his Trimurty, shud reject his infinite forms of God, and embrace ur fabricated idea of Trinity which is incestuous and of merely 3 limited forms?
again, denying a later day fabricated idea of Trinity or what Mormons claims si not denying the jesus’ prestine teachings. b’ecause jesus has nothing to do with ur Trinity. he did not preach it at all. so there is no question of Hindusim denying your so called “the most amazing fact” which is not a fact at all. it is ur creation.
check One john chap. 5 verse 7 in ur old & new recent versions of the Bibles. this verse is rejected by ur Bibles scholars. don’t blame my Hindus scholars. most Hindus don’t even know what the word Bible means.
The common ground is indeed there & not just ibetween Hinduism and message of Jesus, but the messages of all true prophets such as Abram, Moses, Muhamed. u only need to forget later inventions & look or research the original prestine messages of these holy men of God. as Dr. zakir Naik has explained, the Koran tells “for very nation there was warner from God” to guide humanity. so Koran is indeed word of God & if u read without prejudiced mind, there are series of common ground & all seem to be on the same page of God’s message. & Koran is the final word. it carries all previous and all that a man of any nation needs.
the message of jesus was meant for his jew-nation only as he himself declare that he sent only for them. he did not teach salvation thru his so called death. had judas not betrayed he would never have got arrested to get “crucified”. but God saved his life. there is no hard proof in the Bible that jews were able to kill him. it is all conjecture. none of jesus’ loving followers witnessed his “death”. he cannot be acursed of God by hanging himself on a tree, as paul made u to beleive. paul is a deciever. a liar. even Dead sea scrolls reveal many shocking things which clearly give many hints that paul never was jesus’ sheep. he was a harraser of jesus’ followers & remained jesus’enemy for all of his life & preferred to work for pagan Romans despite being a pharisees. paul is the culprit of inventing new nonsensical ideas such as original sin and paving the way to pagainised romanised idea of Trinity. little wonder if christians of ur day call Rome, a whore based on their own interpretaion of ur same corrupted Biblical book, Revelation. in this jesus’ feet were like brass in some copies & in some other were like bronze.
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