Hinduism?????

[Kilnadore]

Hi,

This might not be in the right forum?

New on the forum, been looking a lot at new age dangers etc recently. Just been trying to find a website promoting kundalini yoga which describes the horrific ‘symptoms’ which can accompany a kundalini awakening, as I wanted to show it to my sister. I found it a few days ago.

Couldnt find it but I did some reading about Gopi Krishna and his many books, the kundalini yoga main man. He refers to ‘satanic faces’ staring at him when he tried to sleep.

I wasnt aware that satan existed in hinduism? What is a hindu doing even using the term satanic to describe something ‘awful’, another word he used when describing these nocturnal experiences.

I just found this a bit bizzare that a hindu would describe anything as satanic? Is he inadvertently admitting Christianity has merit or does hinduism allow for belief in anything whatsoever including Christian God and satan?

Thanks.

 

[meltzerboy]

Hi,

This might not be in the right forum?

New on the forum, been looking a lot at new age dangers etc recently. Just been trying to find a website promoting kundalini yoga which describes the horrific ‘symptoms’ which can accompany a kundalini awakening, as I wanted to show it to my sister. I found it a few days ago.

Couldnt find it but I did some reading about Gopi Krishna and his many books, the kundalini yoga main man. He refers to ‘satanic faces’ staring at him when he tried to sleep.

I wasnt aware that satan existed in hinduism? What is a hindu doing even using the term satanic to describe something ‘awful’, another word he used when describing these nocturnal experiences.

I just found this a bit bizzare that a hindu would describe anything as satanic? Is he inadvertently admitting Christianity has merit or does hinduism allow for belief in anything whatsoever including Christian God and satan?

Thanks.

I’ve heard that Hindus have considerable flexibility regarding their beliefs in other religions’ ideas. I’m no authority on this, however, and am awaiting Sufjon’s response.

 

[ValPal]

A distinction has to be made between the exercises and the religion. At the basic level, they go hand in hand. In the modern world, the exercises are stripped from the religious element. This is not true of just yoga. It is true of modern martial arts, a great many of which have roots in India.

People that associate yoga with religious practice can expect to have a religious experience. People that do not should not expect one. It’s the same difference between a person practicing a Japanese martial art associated with the Shinto religion and someone taking a self defense class.

 

[Kilnadore]

Thanks for responses Meltzerboy and Valpal,

Im not sure it is possible to seperate yoga from hinduism. Thats where it comes from.

The original question was, why is a hindu referring to satan? Describing something ghastly and frightening that has troubled him personally as ‘satanic’.

Thanks again.

 

[Kilnadore]

Just been listening to Mike Shreve on youtube detail his experiences as a former US yoga guru and his conversion to Christianity.

He refered to hindu’s studying the koran and the Bible among other things so it maybe shouldnt come as such a surprise that a hindu could think of something nasty as satanic, they could have a concept of satan from either koran or Bible.

Thanks.

 

[Wesley7]

Hinduism is about about whatever you’re talking about. Haha lol

 

[Wesley7]

Hindus in India do have some strange gods/deities.

 

[ValPal]

Im not sure it is possible to seperate yoga from hinduism.

It is important to understand the terminology, otherwise the concepts get confused. “Yoga” is associated with Hinduism. What many westerners call “Yoga” is something different, and doesn’t include the religious element.

The type of yoga you referred to clearly includes the religious element.

Thats where it comes from.

Many people bring up this argument when talking about yoga. It doesn’t stop at yoga. Indian and eastern cultures have an all-encompassing philosophy, which includes everything from philosophy, science, medicine, food, and anything else you can think of. The same argument that the exercises can be separated from the religious element can be applied to any of the other things I’ve mentioned.

I view it like voodoo. Voodoo is effective if you believe in it, and irrelevant if you don’t.

The original question was, why is a hindu referring to satan? Describing something ghastly and frightening that has troubled him personally as ‘satanic’.

Beats me. I think it is reasonable to say that he experienced something that is not-God.

 

[LayingHands]

Hi,

This might not be in the right forum?

New on the forum, been looking a lot at new age dangers etc recently. Just been trying to find a website promoting kundalini yoga which describes the horrific ‘symptoms’ which can accompany a kundalini awakening, as I wanted to show it to my sister. I found it a few days ago.

Couldnt find it but I did some reading about Gopi Krishna and his many books, the kundalini yoga main man. He refers to ‘satanic faces’ staring at him when he tried to sleep.

I wasnt aware that satan existed in hinduism? What is a hindu doing even using the term satanic to describe something ‘awful’, another word he used when describing these nocturnal experiences.

I just found this a bit bizzare that a hindu would describe anything as satanic? Is he inadvertently admitting Christianity has merit or does hinduism allow for belief in anything whatsoever including Christian God and satan?

Thanks.

This is probably the best forum…first of all, I want to correct everyone on the basis of true Yoga practice. The true meaning of Yoga is “the linking to GOD’s mind, i,e. a meeting of Mind to Mind”.

During a time, way back, Yoga was a practice among Vedic liturature, for sages and holy men, renouncers (the last of the spiritual levels) and was only to be performed in a sacred place. They became hermits and wandered throughout their lives, practicing Yoga, under trees, on top of animal skins (to keep insects from crawling on them) and linked their minds to GOD, staying away from society and it’s material influences.

The yoga practice is for linking one’s mind to GOD’s. This yoga practice is today, no longer possible because of the lack of holy, sacred places and the expansion of Humanity.

The posture and gaze transfixed upon the tip of the nose, is to remain awake during this sacred practice from ancient historical times…it is to be remembered, that Christianity has its root foundations in Brahmanism and Buddhistism.

Even the practice of Yoga has become perverted from the ancient practice, as performed by the sages and holy men of India.

Next, demons and evil are terms which are part of the written and oral traditions of the ancient history of India and the Oriental Religions, thousands of years before Christianity.

 

[undeserving]

It’s very very difficult to define what Hinduism is about, though it has more than 33,000 different Gods, it also claims to be a monotheistic religion, that is each God is a different aspect of the Supreme. It has a whole lot of rituals but there is a huge disconnect between the rituals and spiritual growth. It has many sacred texts with profound teachings, but with very little clarity. The basic teaching of Hinduism is that you are not you, you are actually God, and if you make huge efforts you will “Realise” this. The holy men of Hindus are “self realised” beings, that is saints who have crossed the disconnect between imagining they are a separate individual from the supreme being. Not easy. As for yoga, astrology, ayurveda and stuff, they are various off shoots of Hinduism. they can be part of the religious structure or they can be treated as absolutely separate. Regarding Satan, no they do not believe in him. they have demons, but a demon can also be reborn as a God.

 

[rinnie]

Hi,

This might not be in the right forum?

New on the forum, been looking a lot at new age dangers etc recently. Just been trying to find a website promoting kundalini yoga which describes the horrific ‘symptoms’ which can accompany a kundalini awakening, as I wanted to show it to my sister. I found it a few days ago.

Couldnt find it but I did some reading about Gopi Krishna and his many books, the kundalini yoga main man. He refers to ‘satanic faces’ staring at him when he tried to sleep.

I wasnt aware that satan existed in hinduism? What is a hindu doing even using the term satanic to describe something ‘awful’, another word he used when describing these nocturnal experiences.

I just found this a bit bizzare that a hindu would describe anything as satanic? Is he inadvertently admitting Christianity has merit or does hinduism allow for belief in anything whatsoever including Christian God and satan?

Thanks.

The biggest conflict that we have is they look within themself to find god, we know that God is the purpose of all of our being.

When we pray we do not empty our minds to find the source within us. We fill our minds with the God Almighty and see what he wants from us and try to do his work.

The source within us is always praying to the One and Only Almighty God. We know who he is and and what he is, and all come from him. Without him we are nothing.

We do not look within ourself for truth, we know what truth and light is, and where it comes from. Any truth or light that comes from within us comes from Jesus Christ our Lord. We take no credit for the truth or light that we have.

All Good if for the Glory of God. All things come from God. Without God we are nothing.

 

[rinnie]

It’s very very difficult to define what Hinduism is about, though it has more than 33,000 different Gods, it also claims to be a monotheistic religion, that is each God is a different aspect of the Supreme. It has a whole lot of rituals but there is a huge disconnect between the rituals and spiritual growth. It has many sacred texts with profound teachings, but with very little clarity. The basic teaching of Hinduism is that you are not you, you are actually God, and if you make huge efforts you will “Realise” this. The holy men of Hindus are “self realised” beings, that is saints who have crossed the disconnect between imagining they are a separate individual from the supreme being. Not easy. As for yoga, astrology, ayurveda and stuff, they are various off shoots of Hinduism. they can be part of the religious structure or they can be treated as absolutely separate. Regarding Satan, no they do not believe in him. they have demons, but a demon can also be reborn as a God.

Are you sure that they claim to be a monotheistic religion. You cannot have plural gods and feel that way. To be a monotheistic religion you can claim only ONE GOD.

The only 3 religions that claim to be monothestic religions as far as I know is Christianity, Jewish and Islam.

 

[rinnie]

This is probably the best forum…first of all, I want to correct everyone on the basis of true Yoga practice. The true meaning of Yoga is “the linking to GOD’s mind, i,e. a meeting of Mind to Mind”.

During a time, way back, Yoga was a practice among Vedic liturature, for sages and holy men, renouncers (the last of the spiritual levels) and was only to be performed in a sacred place. They became hermits and wandered throughout their lives, practicing Yoga, under trees, on top of animal skins (to keep insects from crawling on them) and linked their minds to GOD, staying away from society and it’s material influences.

The yoga practice is for linking one’s mind to GOD’s. This yoga practice is today, no longer possible because of the lack of holy, sacred places and the expansion of Humanity.

The posture and gaze transfixed upon the tip of the nose, is to remain awake during this sacred practice from ancient historical times…it is to be remembered, that Christianity has its root foundations in Brahmanism and Buddhistism.

Even the practice of Yoga has become perverted from the ancient practice, as performed by the sages and holy men of India.

Next, demons and evil are terms which are part of the written and oral traditions of the ancient history of India and the Oriental Religions, thousands of years before Christianity.

Well if what you are saying is indeed true linking to Gods mind that should be the first heads up that this is impossible.

NO ONE knows the mind of God. God is human and divine. There is no way a human can evey know the mind of God.

 

[undeserving]

Are you sure that they claim to be a monotheistic religion. You cannot have plural gods and feel that way. To be a monotheistic religion you can claim only ONE GOD.

The only 3 religions that claim to be monothestic religions as far as I know is Christianity, Jewish and Islam.

Some Hindus do claim so. However many don’t. It makes sense in a way don’t you think.? The various Gods appeared so as to make it easy for ordinary people to worship them and appreciate God’s different aspects. For example Saraswathi is the Goddess of learning, lakshmi of spiritual and material wealth, and so on.

 

[LayingHands]

Are you sure that they claim to be a monotheistic religion. You cannot have plural gods and feel that way. To be a monotheistic religion you can claim only ONE GOD.

The only 3 religions that claim to be monothestic religions as far as I know is Christianity, Jewish and Islam.

Yes, they believe is One Almighty GOD and the rest are designated demi-gods, devas, sages, and Saints, etc.

Actually, moreso, they are GOD’s representatives, rulers, stewards of powers…like Indra, God of this Universe,…Chandra, Goddess of the Moon…Vaisvavan, the God of the Sun, Rhadharani, Favorite Wife of Krsna/GOD, etc.

Each has its specialty and as the demi-gods, we pray to them…as to the sages, saints and prophets…everyone of them are servants of GOD, the Supreme Personality of GODHEAD, Krrsna, Krsta, Christos…Creator, the Cause of All Causes, the All in All…

So as we pray to our own demi-gods, or what we know as, Our Lord Jesus Christ (Christos, the Son of GOD), Our Lady Mary, (Holy Mother of Jesus Christ), who intercedes on our behalf to GOD, The Father), Laksmi (Goddess of Wealth), Archangel Rafael (GOD’s Healer)…you get the gest…

Hindus are a people and the religion is Brahmanism, and is als the foundation of Buddhism (NOT the Atheist sect)…Christianity, Judaism too.,

The Science is the same, the Science of GOD…He tells of four social orders and four spiritual orders…He explains the Modes of Material Existence as the Mode of Goodness, the Mode of Passion and the Mode of Ignorance…He says who we are and why He created us…how we are to live and how we are to become liberated now, while alive, so we may surrender to Him and He will absolve all your sins and grant you His
protection/ happiness, now.

He says after you are liberated and LOVE Him completely and continuously, HE will make you happy, and when you pass from this life…having lived by GOD’s Laws, Mercy and Charity, continuously LOVING Him, thinking of Him with All your Heart, Mind, and Soul…you will return to Him, to His abode, without fail…and you will never experience re-birth to return to this darkness and world.

As with all ancient religions, the purity of the Word, can and is interpreted, perverted, changed, to become something it was never meant to be…the false-ego of Humanity seeks to pervert and change the Supreme Absolute Truth…with new evils, demons, hellish images and story characters, to fill in the gaps…the imagination runneth over.

I think I will just stay here, at GOD’s beginnings…and just follow, GOD, Father, Creator.

 

[Mickey]

Within the Hinduistic conceptual religious backdrop it is not possible to have genuine religion. There is no sense to worship any god or deity, if one’s inner self or Atman is identical with the Brahman, just like the personal gods. On that premise, there would be no real superiority of the gods over men; their worship has no sense except, perhaps, for protection purposes. Within the context of a rigid monism, men worshipping the gods would just be worshipping themselves. Theoretical Hinduism has not only effaced the genuine concept of the deity and the object of religious worship, but has also made of religious worship a non-sensical undertaking and a superfluous one.
catholicapologetics.info/apologetics/hinduism/wocreator.htm

“Religious error and its propagation are very pernicious evils to the Church and to souls, hence the Church’s strict right to stop the manifestation of false religions…”
Thomas Aquinas****

 

[rinnie]

Yes, they believe is One Almighty GOD and the rest are designated demi-gods, devas, sages, and Saints, etc.

Actually, moreso, they are GOD’s representatives, rulers, stewards of powers…like Indra, God of this Universe,…Chandra, Goddess of the Moon…Vaisvavan, the God of the Sun, Rhadharani, Favorite Wife of Krsna/GOD, etc.

Each has its specialty and as the demi-gods, we pray to them…as to the sages, saints and prophets…everyone of them are servants of GOD, the Supreme Personality of GODHEAD, Krrsna, Krsta, Christos…Creator, the Cause of All Causes, the All in All…

So as we pray to our own demi-gods, or what we know as, Our Lord Jesus Christ (Christos, the Son of GOD), Our Lady Mary, (Holy Mother of Jesus Christ), who intercedes on our behalf to GOD, The Father), Laksmi (Goddess of Wealth), Archangel Rafael (GOD’s Healer)…you get the gest…

Hindus are a people and the religion is Brahmanism, and is als the foundation of Buddhism (NOT the Atheist sect)…Christianity, Judaism too.,

The Science is the same, the Science of GOD…He tells of four social orders and four spiritual orders…He explains the Modes of Material Existence as the Mode of Goodness, the Mode of Passion and the Mode of Ignorance…He says who we are and why He created us…how we are to live and how we are to become liberated now, while alive, so we may surrender to Him and He will absolve all your sins and grant you His
protection/ happiness, now.

He says after you are liberated and LOVE Him completely and continuously, HE will make you happy, and when you pass from this life…having lived by GOD’s Laws, Mercy and Charity, continuously LOVING Him, thinking of Him with All your Heart, Mind, and Soul…you will return to Him, to His abode, without fail…and you will never experience re-birth to return to this darkness and world.

As with all ancient religions, the purity of the Word, can and is interpreted, perverted, changed, to become something it was never meant to be…the false-ego of Humanity seeks to pervert and change the Supreme Absolute Truth…with new evils, demons, hellish images and story characters, to fill in the gaps…the imagination runneth over.

I think I will just stay here, at GOD’s beginnings…and just follow, GOD, Father, Creator.

They pray to demi-gods That should be your first clue there. To pray to demi-gods as you claim is for one thing a mortal sin. The First commandment I am the Lord your God you will have no gods before me.

You cannot pray to anyone but God the Almighty. And as far as this false-ego of humanity you talk about I know nothing about. I believe as the Lord Jesus told us he is sending the Advocate the Holy Spirit to the Church to guide us into all truth until the end of age. So that is impossible to be led astray. The Holy Spirit would never do such a thing. We have the promise from God.

 

[rinnie]

Some Hindus do claim so. However many don’t. It makes sense in a way don’t you think.? The various Gods appeared so as to make it easy for ordinary people to worship them and appreciate God’s different aspects. For example Saraswathi is the Goddess of learning, lakshmi of spiritual and material wealth, and so on.

Also it makes no sense to me, I am sorry. There is no such thing as various Gods. Thats not possible. There is only ONE GOD not various. Everything comes from the One God the Father Almighty the creator of heaven and earth. We do not have plural gods to help us learn, etc.

 

[grandfather]

Also it makes no sense to me, I am sorry. There is no such thing as various Gods. Thats not possible. There is only ONE GOD not various. Everything comes from the One God the Father Almighty the creator of heaven and earth. We do not have plural gods to help us learn, etc.

My penny chatechism answers the question, who is God. God is the supreme spirit who alone exists of Himself and is infinite in all His perfections.

What are the perfections of God? God is love, justice, truth, life, existance, etc.

All of God can be found in any one of His perfections. If you know God’s love you will also know truth. In other words God can be manifested in any of these various ways that we segregate from one another to try to comprehend or experience one at a time. Nevertheless, God is all of these various perfections. That does not make God a plurality, but knowable in different ways.

I am not commenting in any way on Hinduism or defending the religion, but we should keep in mind that God can manifest Himself to us through any of His various perfections.

 

[LayingHands]

Well if what you are saying is indeed true linking to Gods mind that should be the first heads up that this is impossible.

NO ONE knows the mind of God. God is human and divine. There is no way a human can evey know the mind of God.

It is not impossible, because GOD is a portion of your Spirit Soul…which is located, within your heart and gives you LIFE…how not to link to GOD mind, as He is within, every living entity…

The real practice of Yoga, was not to place yourself into a void, while controting the material body, into various positions!

You are referring to Our Lord Jesus Christ as the Son of GOD…I am referring to the One Almighty GOD, Father of Jesus, whom is neither human, nor just divine…but, the Creator of the Cosmic Universes and All Life, invisible and visible…