Hindus worshiping Jesus Christ

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I have a friend who is Hindu and prays to Jesus. She went to a Catholic school in India and has fond memories of her experiences.

I also had a professor by the name of Ravi Ravindra. He wrote the books, “The Yoga of Christ”, and “The Gospel of John and Indian Mysticism.”

The one thing I find in common with both is a tendency to explain Christianity in Hindu terms. So Jesus is an avatar of Vishnu or our doctrine of sin in terms of Karma etc…

My problem with this tendency is that the Bible does not use these terms and concepts. Nor does our Catholic tradition. They don’t really match.

Do you think that Christianty and Hinduism are really saying the same thing?

God Bless.
 
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utunumsint:
My problem with this tendency is that the Bible does not use these terms and concepts. Nor does our Catholic tradition. They don’t really match.

Do you think that Christianty and Hinduism are really saying the same thing?

God Bless.
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My current thought on this: Christianity and Hinduism aren’t saying the same thing, but they point to the same Thing.
 
I am interested in knowing what your thoughts are on God. Honestly. I would like to know more.

I get the feeling sometimes that all the Hindu gods are like masks of the one god. Kind of like characteristics, or aspects of the godhead. Is this an accurate depiction?

God bless.
 
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utunumsint:
I am interested in knowing what your thoughts are on God. Honestly. I would like to know more.

I get the feeling sometimes that all the Hindu gods are like masks of the one god. Kind of like characteristics, or aspects of the godhead. Is this an accurate depiction?

God bless.
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I think that would be accurate. There is only one Reality, or Brahman. But Brahman manifests as the different Devas, or Deities/Gods.
 
The early church fathers spent a good four hundred years to fully articulate what we mean by Father, Son and Holy Spirit. They would question how they can believe in one God, yet have three at the same time.

Some would emphasis the Father over the Son and the Spirit. This is called Monarchianism. Basically it makes the Son and Spirit a lesser being. Created. Or if you flip the coin and emphasis Jesus as created, you get Arianism.

Another way they looked at the issue is very much the same way you describe God having many aspects. Sometimes appearing as Father, sometimes as Son, sometimes as Holy Spirit. But it is just one God wearing different masks. This was called modalism.

What the Catholic Church teaches is that there are three persons in the Trinity. They are equal, and share the same essense or nature or Godhead. All three are fully God. But they do so without dividing. They are one God. This is something revealed so it is inaccessible to reason.

This thread started with “Hindus worshipping Christ.” Do you worship Christ?

God Bless
 
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utunumsint:
Another way they looked at the issue is very much the same way you describe God having many aspects. Sometimes appearing as Father, sometimes as Son, sometimes as Holy Spirit. But it is just one God wearing different masks. This was called modalism.
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It’s interesting to compare the early Church Fathers with the Hindu thinkers, since both grappled with how God could be both God and human.

I’m not all that aware of how modalism plays out, but it seems that in modalism, God the Son is God the Father, the Father in human incarnation. That is, when God was Jesus Christ, God was no longer in Heaven, but on earth. If that is modalism, then that is different from the common Hindu perspective, where God always remains in His transcendent Form, no matter what happens, while also being capable of manifesting as a human being at the same time.
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Yes, I worship Christ.
 
selvaraj said:
Hindus are worshiping Jesus Christ without knowing that. Hindu`s Holy Book Veda says some thing about Christ, and it was written in Sanskrit. The langauge not known by most of the Hindus. Please read it.
Om Sri Brahma Puthraya Nama reads as ‘I worship Jesus, who came to the world as God’s son (John 3:16.17)’. Om Shri Dakshina Murthaya Nama reads ‘I worship Jesus who is sitting on the right of his father (John (1:18)’. 'Om Sri Panchakaya Nama refers to Jesus, the one with five wounds (John 20:25.27). Om Sri Ummathiya Nama is translated as ‘I hail one born to the holy spirit’ (Mathew 1:18).
In Christ,
selvaraj
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Care to quote the relevant verse in the relevant Veda? There are four of them, one, Yajur, has two renditions.

Apart from that:
  1. Son has to sit on left of his father. Dakshin also means SOUTH.
  2. Panchkaya means body made of five elements.
  3. Brahma Putra means son of Brahma, Narad rishi.
Lastly, do you know Sanskrit?
selvaraj said:
Max Muller translated this. For more please visit:dharmaavenue.com/faces-lives/max-muller.htm
In Christ,
selvaraj
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Please do not quote a site quoting Max Muller. Muller wanted to destroy Hinduism by his dishonest trnslations, and he had admitted it.

Muller uttered good, strong lies for xianity, and you trying to do that.

PS: Vedas are far, far older than NT. So it is likely that NT was a copy of Vedas and Bhagvad Gita. So, xians are actually worshipping Brahma and Krishna, but they know it not.
 
In these quotes you gave, there is NOTHING that seems to resemble the name Jesus at all.

Which words do you think ARE the name “Jesus”?
 
utunumsint said:
I have a friend who is Hindu and prays to Jesus. She went to a Catholic school in India and has fond memories of her experiences.

I also had a professor by the name of Ravi Ravindra. He wrote the books, “The Yoga of Christ”, and “The Gospel of John and Indian Mysticism.”

The one thing I find in common with both is a tendency to explain Christianity in Hindu terms. So Jesus is an avatar of Vishnu or our doctrine of sin in terms of Karma etc…

My problem with this tendency is that the Bible does not use these terms and concepts. Nor does our Catholic tradition. They don’t really match.

Do you think that Christianty and Hinduism are really saying the same thing?

God Bless.
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“Was [Indra] crucified for you ?” The Cross is crucial (pun deliberate) - it divides Christ from all competitors. It’s vastly annoying 🙂​

Jesus is either Lord of all - & thus Vishnu’s Lord - or is a sham who is unworthy of any attention. He can’t be both. If He could, it would be possible to justify Caesar-worship & Shinto as well: & a lot of Christians preferred death to Caesar-worship.
 
Ahimsa said:
I think that would be accurate. There is only one Reality, or Brahman. But Brahman manifests as the different Devas, or Deities/Gods.
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And in fact the brahman (brahman is not a proper name) is never worshipped, has no temples, presents no scriptures and has no stories. of course one could say that the brahman is always worshipped, has all temples, etc - but then you could also say that the brahman is all vacuum cleaners, all dogs, all of everything, since all things - not just Gods - are manifestations of the brahman. I think it’s entirely misleading to translate the brahman as ‘God’ at all, since the concepts have so very little in common.

The brahman is not the creator of all. It does not prefer virtue to sin, it makes no laws and does not respond to prayers or sacrifices. It does not enter into relationships with other beings, since it is all beings (not just Gods).

Personally, I think so-called monotheism in hinduism is just a smoke screen invented by late philosophers who wanted muslims to stop killing them. Hindus are monist (believing that all existence is One) but not monotheist (believing in only one personal God). There is no One God who is a person in hinduism.
 
Then Vidaghdha, son of Shakala, asked him, “How many gods are there, Yajnavalkya?” ***Yajnavalkya, ascertaining the number through a group of mantras known as the Nivid, replied, “As many as are mentioned in the Nivid of the gods: three hundred and three, and three thousand and three.”
“Very good,” said the son of Shakala, “and how many gods are there, Yajnavalkya?”
“Thirty-three.”
“Very good, and how many gods are there, Yajnavalkya?”
“Six.”
“Very good, and how many gods are there, Yajnavalkya?”
“Three.”
“Very good, and how many gods are there, Yajnavalkya?”
“Two.”
“Very good, and how many gods are there, Yajnavalkya?”
“One and a half.”
“Very good, and how many gods are there, Yajnavalkya?”
“One.”
(Brihadaranyaka Upanishad 3.9.1) ***

Would you know what sanskrit word is being translated as “god” there? I find it unlikely that the text would assert that there is only one deva.
 
selvaraj said:
Hindus are worshiping Jesus Christ without knowing that. Hindu`s Holy Book Veda says some thing about Christ, and it was written in Sanskrit. The langauge not known by most of the Hindus. Please read it.
Om Sri Brahma Puthraya Nama reads as ‘I worship Jesus, who came to the world as God’s son (John 3:16.17)’. Om Shri Dakshina Murthaya Nama reads ‘I worship Jesus who is sitting on the right of his father (John (1:18)’. 'Om Sri Panchakaya Nama refers to Jesus, the one with five wounds (John 20:25.27). Om Sri Ummathiya Nama is translated as ‘I hail one born to the holy spirit’ (Mathew 1:18).
In Christ,
selvaraj
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Just one glance at these mentras and a forgery, not mis-trnslation, is clear. Forgery with a view to deceive. Hindus are not deceived, but I find many xians here have been taken in!!

Btw, even if it is true it means one and only thing: That Vedas are the Original scriptures, others are imitations. So why don’t come the original home?
 
IanCorrigan said:
Then Vidaghdha, son of Shakala, asked him, “How many gods are there, Yajnavalkya?” ***(Brihadaranyaka Upanishad 3.9.1) ***

Would you know what sanskrit word is being translated as “god” there? I find it unlikely that the text would assert that there is only one deva.
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It is indeed deva, loosely gods.It does assert that that there is only one deva, who now becomes the ONE.

See dharmicscriptures.org/Brahmabindu%20Upanishad.pdf
 
IanCorrigan said:
Then Vidaghdha, son of Shakala, asked him, “How many gods are there, Yajnavalkya?” ***Yajnavalkya, ascertaining the number through a group of mantras known as the Nivid, replied, “As many as are mentioned in the Nivid of the gods: three hundred and three, and three thousand and three.”
“Very good,” said the son of Shakala, “and how many gods are there, Yajnavalkya?”
“Thirty-three.”
“Very good, and how many gods are there, Yajnavalkya?”
“Six.”
“Very good, and how many gods are there, Yajnavalkya?”
“Three.”
“Very good, and how many gods are there, Yajnavalkya?”
“Two.”
“Very good, and how many gods are there, Yajnavalkya?”
“One and a half.”
“Very good, and how many gods are there, Yajnavalkya?”
“One.”
(Brihadaranyaka Upanishad 3.9.1) ***

Would you know what sanskrit word is being translated as “god” there? I find it unlikely that the text would assert that there is only one deva.
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The Sanskrit word is “deva”. Deva can mean (1) a spiritual entity; (2) a power of nature; (3) a spiritual power; or (4) That.
 
I have a good friend who is Hindu, and he told me there are many Hindi (though small compared to the total population) who believe Krishna and Christ are one and the same.

Question about the pantheon of the Hindus:
Are Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva the highest deities (aside from Brahman) in Hinduism?

Are Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva manifestations of Brahman, or are they separate entities?
 
mardukm said:
I have a good friend who is Hindu, and he told me there are many Hindi (though small compared to the total population) who believe Krishna and Christ are one and the same.

Question about the pantheon of the Hindus:
Are Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva the highest deities (aside from Brahman) in Hinduism?

Are Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva manifestations of Brahman, or are they separate entities?
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Different lineages within Hinduism would say different things.

For Vaishnavas who worship Krishna as the Supreme Deity, Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva are lesser deities, and are devotees of Krishna, and are separate entities.

For adherents of Shaiva Siddhanta, Shiva is the Supreme Deity, and all other deities are lesser “devas” who, together with all other beings, will become one with Shiva at the end of time.

For followers of Adi Shankara, Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva are worshipped as manifestations of Brahman.

So, you see, there is so much theological diversity within Hinduism that Hinduism is best seen as analogous to the category of “Abrahamic religions” (Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Bahai’, LDS) rather than as analogous to “Christianity” or “Judaism”.
 
IanCorrigan said:
Then Vidaghdha, son of Shakala, asked him, “How many gods are there, Yajnavalkya?” ***Yajnavalkya, ascertaining the number through a group of mantras known as the Nivid, replied, “As many as are mentioned in the Nivid of the gods: three hundred and three, and three thousand and three.”
“Very good,” said the son of Shakala, “and how many gods are there, Yajnavalkya?”
“Thirty-three.”
“Very good, and how many gods are there, Yajnavalkya?”
“Six.”
“Very good, and how many gods are there, Yajnavalkya?”
“Three.”
“Very good, and how many gods are there, Yajnavalkya?”
“Two.”
“Very good, and how many gods are there, Yajnavalkya?”
“One and a half.”
“Very good, and how many gods are there, Yajnavalkya?”
“One.”
(Brihadaranyaka Upanishad 3.9.1) ***

Would you know what sanskrit word is being translated as “god” there? I find it unlikely that the text would assert that there is only one deva.
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I believe that there are 10,000 Deva’s and they are female. The male gods are called Devs, I think, and there are 10,000 of those.
 
<<Hindus are worshiping Jesus Christ without knowing that. Hindu`s Holy Book Veda says some thing about Christ, and it was written in Sanskrit. The langauge not known by most of the Hindus. Please read it.>>

There’s nothing holy in any non-Christian religion, except possibly Judaism.
 
bpbasilphx said:
<<Hindus are worshiping Jesus Christ without knowing that. Hindu`s Holy Book Veda says some thing about Christ, and it was written in Sanskrit. The langauge not known by most of the Hindus. Please read it.>>

There’s nothing holy in any non-Christian religion, except possibly Judaism.
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Balderdash. From Nostra Aetate: *The Catholic Church rejects nothing that is true and holy in these [non-Catholic/non-Abrahamic] religions. *
 
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