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Abyssinia
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So the liberal immigrant stance of the Democratic party is the the winner for these Hispanic immigrants, both legal and illegal.The Mexican immigrants (legal / illegal) around the border (places like CA, AZ, TX) want to see a path to citizenship so they can bring their family to the USA and escape the poverty of their current situation. I’ve met more than enough illegal immigrants who just wanted to see the rest of their family, because once you’re smuggled in you don’t want to go back. People trying to cross illegally have huge risks to their personal safety. I’m guessing the immediate familial concerns are taking precedence of their pro-life attitudes. I could be wrong though, maybe someone else around the border can give another perspective.
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Abyssinia
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The Democratic party for 50 years has been in charge of the inner city. Liberalism has destroyed the Black community. Bad Democratic economics.The reason is that to some, the main consideration is not Pro-Life and has not been historically. In recent history, the Church has been more outspoken about pro-life and so the matter is on the table more and more. But, what has always been on the table is their political and economic interests which the Democratic Party has representated and has been more reponsive to or at least they have succeeded in portraying themselves as such. To say it clearly, the Republican Party has a reputation for being racist and promoting agendas that do not benefit the black and hispanic population and actually promotes things that hurts these populations.
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There are lot of lies about the republican party, like it is the party of the rich which is not true. Steve Jobs, Warren Buffet etc. donate to the Democrats. Wall Street donates to the Democrats.
There is also the lie that the Republican party is the party of white racist men, and that is not true. It is the Democrats who have promoted segregation, slavery, the KKK. The Republican party has been the part of civil rights.
There is good video by a Black Republican, Examining Black Loyalty to the Democrats: youtube.com/watch?v=xryXpK042pQ
I am seeing a rise in Black conservatism, Allen West, Hermain Cain etc. There are also some Hispanic stars on the Republican horizon such as Susanza Martinez.
GOP eyes Black vote in 2012: defendernetwork.com/gop-eyes-black-voters-in-2012/
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Lujack
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Isn’t Al Gore Sr. famous for refusing to sign the Southern Manifesto?Like Al Gore, Sr. and Robert Byrd? Oh wait…they were democrats. Care to name a few openly racist Republicans?
Also, please explain why the Solid South bolted from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party as soon as Lyndon Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act. Or Strom Thurmond’s switching parties.
Agendas that benefit all skin color equally is not racist.
Agendas that benefit some skin colors and not others is racist.
But the Republican agenda does not benefit all skin colors equally-it disproportionately puts the burden of sacrifice on minorities in the inner city.Democrats pander to skin color, Republicans do not.
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Abyssinia
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What has the Democrat party done for minorities in the inner city in 50 years?But the Republican agenda does not benefit all skin colors equally-it disproportionately puts the burden of sacrifice on minorities in the inner city.
I think this letter to the Democrats from a Mrs. Strong sums it up:
Dear Inner City Democrat Leaders,
I would like to thank you for the almost irreparable harm that you have done to blacks in America. Your vision and insight into the black community began with Daniel Patrick Moynihan in 1965. Since then, you have not looked back in your unabashed efforts in the destruction of the black family. Your efforts to create victims and entitlement-minded communities in the inner city deserve the loudest of applauses.
The level of crime and education among blacks coincides with the destruction of the black nuclear family. The results of the negligence of liberalism towards black America can best be summed up by Dr. Thomas Sowell in his article, Liberals, race, and history,’ saying, “Not only must the present be distorted, so must the past — and any alternative view of the future must be nipped in the bud. That is why prominent minority figures who stray from the liberal plantation must be discredited, debased and, above all, kept from becoming federal judges.”
Before the destruction of nuclear black families, black families enjoyed a two-person household. This included a post-slave black family, a time when critics argue that the dissolution of the black family is due in large part to slavery. But that argument just doesn’t hold water, or according to Dr. Walter E. Williams in 1880 in Philadelphia, three-quarters of black families enjoyed a two-parent household, as well as in New York in 1925. So what happened to the black family? How could families hold together so closely in a time of much more segregation and discrimination? Because, as Dr. Williams suggests, there was no welfare or Great Society programs.
Liberalism is the great divider. Rather than improve lives, it destroys them, and so liberalism was able to weave its hooks into the black community and the family through Moynihan. The next stop was education. Liberalism wouldn’t rest until it had given blacks an “equal” education. Instead, all it did was to destroy education in America for blacks. In Detroit, some of the worst public schools in America, blacks score lower on national tests than in other cities throughout the nation.
Education is a means to escape poverty, but in the black community there is no escape from poverty—unless a person wishes to be a gang banger, and with the money rolling in without education, who then needs an education? This only provides opportunities for imprisonment and black on black crimes—an appalling statistic verified by the U.S. Justice Department in 2001.
Liberalism has been a disaster for blacks. It’s a wonder that blacks have even survived the Democrat Party at all. For more than fifty years, it has waged a war on the black family and education. And the seeds it has planted has been those of crime, poverty and misery, resulting in the destruction of the black community. It isn’t irreversible, but it will take a concerted effort to change the mindset of the black community in total. They must embrace liberty—a liberty that began under a Republican president in 1863, and must continue to grow under the current Republicans in the House of Representatives in 2011. Blacks must decide that America is as much a part of them as they are of it. They must rebuke liberalism and the Democrat Party.
So I want to personally thank the Democrat Party for destroying the black family. I want to thank you for the lack of education, the fifty percent dropout rate, and the gangs. I also want to thank you for the high prison populations of blacks, the lack of safe neighborhoods and the general lack of productive black citizens. In the 1950s and 1960s, there were more black PHDs, more black business owners, more two parent families and higher graduation rates. But today, blacks have become a symbol of how destructive the Democrat Party can be. And we have you to thank for it.
My deepest and most sincere thanks,
Mrs. Strong
freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2655099/posts
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Charlotte408
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Ok here’s my two cents on this. And I would like to think I have some authority, or knowledge, background, right to say this because my daughter is hispanic I live deep in an hispanic community, all my friends - people I was raised with are hispanic, I know these people and how they think.Is is true that if the Republican party does not get serious about getting minority voters, the Republican party will diminish?
They are really big on respect. Family. HARD WORK. Tradition. Preserving their culture. They love big families and are for the most part against abortion (some of the ‘pochos’ mexicans from here are more progressive and might have the attitude of ‘well what you do is up to you’ but then its like this hidden family secret - they are really big on saving face).
If the Republican party, can some how find a way to express WHAT they are, WHAT they stand for - and in a way that these people can relate to, they ( a whole lot of them ) will realize they have more in common with the conservative, republican party. IMHO.
That was my problem. My whole life I never saw anything more than colors. Red and blue. Rich man poor man. Conservatism was portrayed to me as ‘limiting, binding, facist’ - now I look at it as ‘conserving’ tradition, family, values…heck money. Democrat was synonomus with ‘democracy, freedom’ and therefore I wanted to live in a ‘free country’.
Really it was a shallow understanding of both parties, and I think thats where the Repubs need to do some PR work or something, make it clear, and keep it very simple. Not that ‘minorities are simple’ but I think, that my class of people (po’ folk) talk a totally different way than all of ya’ll. I have to sit, and think, about the things I learn on here - and completely re-word things so people can wrap their brains around it…LOL…I suggest they hire someone very grounded to figure out how they can connect with these people.
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I’m jealous, I wish I knew as much about their language/culture as you do.Ah, the whole wide world of Mexican music. I speak Spanish fluently and live with a Mexican who is from Guadalajara, Jalisco, home of Mariachi and Tequila (he turns into a puddle whenever he hears a Mariachi play “Guadalajara.”). The most popular kind of Mexican music in the US right now grupero and duranguenze. I’ve found that grupero has a lot of nice songs that I enjoy listening to while Duranquenze takes all of what I consider the most annoying elements of Mexican music and puts them all together. From what I understand, these forms are more popular in the central/northern parts of Mexico. Given a choice, though, I’d rather listen to bachata or salsa, which is more popular in Mexico City and the south.
I only hear one kind of music around here and they play it LOUD. All I know it it always has an accordion in it. I have to admit though, I think I’d favor it over what some of the kids are playing just as loud these days.
The mixture of cultures in these areas 100 years from now will be interesting to see. Almost every weekend we visit the same Mexican restaurant and I have my 3 year old address them in what little spanish I do know.
I have been in Mexican restaurants when they had a mariachi band playing and I’ve really enjoyed that.
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I don’t know if he is famous for it or not, but it hardly takes away from him voting against some other major civil rights legislations including the Civil Rights Act of 1964. I should also remind the poster that I was referring to about this, now that you bring it up, the Southern Manifesto was signed by almost all Democrats.Isn’t Al Gore Sr. famous for refusing to sign the Southern Manifesto?
Well, let me first start off by giving you a little personal experience if you don’t mind. I knew of one man in my life who was downright, blatantly and ignorantly racist. I’ll paraphrase what he told me once(he’s been dead now for awhile), he said something along the lines of NASCAR was the only sport he watched anymore because the gd n****** hadn’t taken over. He and others I know, who are not so openly racist(but opposed Obama based on skin color), were hard core Democrats. So democrat as a matter of fact, a mention of my political beliefs falls on deaf ears as the volume of the television would go up the second I mentioned Republican.Also, please explain why the Solid South bolted from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party as soon as Lyndon Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act. Or Strom Thurmond’s switching parties.
Now, LBJ being a Democrat and signing the Civil Rights Act would make it hard to believe to be the cause of the racists going to the Republican party considering they were the ones who put the bill on his desk in the first place. Strom Thurmond switching parties, well I don’t know what he was thinking but usually when a politician switches parties, he does it for political purposes, opportunism, to get re-elected who the heck else knows. Do you really believe that Byrd went from a hood wearing KKK leader to a peace loving Democrat? I think he fell in love with Sangers words and wanted to do as much damage to the black community as possible. But, that would require me to know exactly what was inside his mind.
How so?But the Republican agenda does not benefit all skin colors equally-it disproportionately puts the burden of sacrifice on minorities in the inner city.
How are Mexicans so prosperous, but blacks are still struggling? (In my area this seems to be the case.)
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psr13
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The Republican party has tried to get Hispanic votes, but the Democratic smear machine is very hard to break in this circumstance. This is particularly true out here. Every single election cycle, the Dems come out with the race card and label Republicans are racists and anti-immigrants. The truth is that they are anti-illegal immigration, but the truth doesn’t win out usually. Shoot, in one election recently a Democrat painted a Republican as anti-immigrant. The problem? That Republican is an immigrant himself.America’s Hispanic population is growing faster and spreading farther than previously assumed according a new report from the 2010 Census.
With the 2012 elections looming, many Democrats are encouraged to see the rapid growth in Hispanic population, an ethnic group that favored Barack Obama by two-to-one margin in the 2008 election according to exit polls. And current polls show that Obama maintains a healthy job approval rating among Hispanics – 20 points higher than the population at large in some polls.
But there are suggestions that the rise in Hispanic population poses some long-term challenges to Democrats, too.
Michael Barone, senior political analyst for The Washington Examiner and the author of the “Almanac of American Politics,” says while black voters tend overwhelmingly favor Democrats, Hispanic voters are less united.
Barone said that the strength of Democrats among Hispanics may be a function of geography, not just ethnic identity.
“Hispanics in California are very Democratic. It’s a state where white voters also tend to be Democratic,” Barone said. “Hispanics in Texas tend to be less Democratic…and you have states like Florida where Hispanics are voting majority Republican.”
Read more: foxnews.com/politics/2011/03/24/hispanic-boom-brings-big-changes-nation-politics/#ixzz1HdZemm6Y
Is is true that if the Republican party does not get serious about getting minority voters, the Republican party will diminish?
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psr13
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Occidental is right. Florida has the Cubans, and they escaped from a Communist dictator. It’s the same reason many Eastern Europeans who come here don’t vote Democrat. They don’t think Democrats are all Communists, but they want nothing to do with that side of the aisle at all.If most Hispanic people are pro life why are the majority voting for the Democrats?
What differs between the Hispanics in Florida who vote majority Republican and other Hispanics in other states who vote majority Democrat?
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psr13
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Immigration is a huge reason why Hispanics tend to vote for Democrats. However, much of it is because the Republican stance is often lied about. They are said to be anti-immigrant when they are actually anti-illegal immigration. Many, many Hispanics are also anti-illegal immigration.So the liberal immigrant stance of the Democratic party is the the winner for these Hispanic immigrants, both legal and illegal.
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LCMS_No_More
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Accordion? Most likely norteño.I’m jealous, I wish I knew as much about their language/culture as you do.
I only hear one kind of music around here and they play it LOUD. All I know it it always has an accordion in it. I have to admit though, I think I’d favor it over what some of the kids are playing just as loud these days.
The mixture of cultures in these areas 100 years from now will be interesting to see. Almost every weekend we visit the same Mexican restaurant and I have my 3 year old address them in what little spanish I do know.
I have been in Mexican restaurants when they had a mariachi band playing and I’ve really enjoyed that.
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Dakota_Roberts
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Hispanics tend to be hard working and tradition based. The reason we have so many Hispanic illegal immigrants is because they are fleeing their homeland which has turned into a hellhole and because immigration takes so damn long.
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Abyssinia
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Interesting reading. It is the Republican party’s job to reach out more to these people. They have to find a way to do it, because having more of the Hispanic vote is vital. The Republicans need do a lot of PR work to get more of the Hispanic and Black vote. The Black vote is seen as a shoe in for the Democrats, why would anybody be seen as that. Policies are what matter. Republicans need to go in to Hispanic and Black communities and make it clear that they are not racist, not elitist, and unlike the government they are here to help, they want to give more opportunities.Ok here’s my two cents on this. And I would like to think I have some authority, or knowledge, background, right to say this because my daughter is hispanic I live deep in an hispanic community, all my friends - people I was raised with are hispanic, I know these people and how they think.
They are really big on respect. Family. HARD WORK. Tradition. Preserving their culture. They love big families and are for the most part against abortion (some of the ‘pochos’ mexicans from here are more progressive and might have the attitude of ‘well what you do is up to you’ but then its like this hidden family secret - they are really big on saving face).
If the Republican party, can some how find a way to express WHAT they are, WHAT they stand for - and in a way that these people can relate to, they ( a whole lot of them ) will realize they have more in common with the conservative, republican party. IMHO.
That was my problem. My whole life I never saw anything more than colors. Red and blue. Rich man poor man. Conservatism was portrayed to me as ‘limiting, binding, facist’ - now I look at it as ‘conserving’ tradition, family, values…heck money. Democrat was synonomus with ‘democracy, freedom’ and therefore I wanted to live in a ‘free country’.
Really it was a shallow understanding of both parties, and I think thats where the Repubs need to do some PR work or something, make it clear, and keep it very simple. Not that ‘minorities are simple’ but I think, that my class of people (po’ folk) talk a totally different way than all of ya’ll. I have to sit, and think, about the things I learn on here - and completely re-word things so people can wrap their brains around it…LOL…I suggest they hire someone very grounded to figure out how they can connect with these people.
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Abyssinia
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Democrats always bring race into it. The liberals have had control of the inner city for 50 years and there are not enough jobs, and not enough good schools. Most Hispanic people and Black people are pro traditional marriage, and pro life. Conservative values. The Republican party has to do more to reach out to these people.The Republican party has tried to get Hispanic votes, but the Democratic smear machine is very hard to break in this circumstance. This is particularly true out here. Every single election cycle, the Dems come out with the race card and label Republicans are racists and anti-immigrants. The truth is that they are anti-illegal immigration, but the truth doesn’t win out usually. Shoot, in one election recently a Democrat painted a Republican as anti-immigrant. The problem? That Republican is an immigrant himself.
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Abyssinia
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Interesting reading. It is the Republican party’s job to reach out more to these people. They have to find a way to do it, because having more of the Hispanic vote is vital. The Republicans need do a lot of PR work to get more of the Hispanic and Black vote. The Black vote is seen as a shoe in for the Democrats, why would anybody be seen as that. Policies are what matter. Republicans need to go in to Hispanic and Black communities and make it clear that they are not racist, not elitist, and unlike the government they are here to help, they want to give more opportunities.Ok here’s my two cents on this. And I would like to think I have some authority, or knowledge, background, right to say this because my daughter is hispanic I live deep in an hispanic community, all my friends - people I was raised with are hispanic, I know these people and how they think.
They are really big on respect. Family. HARD WORK. Tradition. Preserving their culture. They love big families and are for the most part against abortion (some of the ‘pochos’ mexicans from here are more progressive and might have the attitude of ‘well what you do is up to you’ but then its like this hidden family secret - they are really big on saving face).
If the Republican party, can some how find a way to express WHAT they are, WHAT they stand for - and in a way that these people can relate to, they ( a whole lot of them ) will realize they have more in common with the conservative, republican party. IMHO.
That was my problem. My whole life I never saw anything more than colors. Red and blue. Rich man poor man. Conservatism was portrayed to me as ‘limiting, binding, facist’ - now I look at it as ‘conserving’ tradition, family, values…heck money. Democrat was synonomus with ‘democracy, freedom’ and therefore I wanted to live in a ‘free country’.
Really it was a shallow understanding of both parties, and I think thats where the Repubs need to do some PR work or something, make it clear, and keep it very simple. Not that ‘minorities are simple’ but I think, that my class of people (po’ folk) talk a totally different way than all of ya’ll. I have to sit, and think, about the things I learn on here - and completely re-word things so people can wrap their brains around it…LOL…I suggest they hire someone very grounded to figure out how they can connect with these people.
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Abyssinia
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Democrats always bring race into it. Most Hispanic people and Black people are pro traditional marriage, and pro life. Conservative values. The Republican party has to do more to reach out.The Republican party has tried to get Hispanic votes, but the Democratic smear machine is very hard to break in this circumstance. This is particularly true out here. Every single election cycle, the Dems come out with the race card and label Republicans are racists and anti-immigrants. The truth is that they are anti-illegal immigration, but the truth doesn’t win out usually. Shoot, in one election recently a Democrat painted a Republican as anti-immigrant. The problem? That Republican is an immigrant himself.
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psr13
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Do you live in a heavily Hispanic area? My city is about 93% Hispanic. The Republican party has tried in so many ways to reach out to minority voters. Beating the liberal press out here is just so difficult. Republicans often are not given the time of day here. Communities won’t give them a chance, and that will not change until the lies are publicized as lies. That won’t happen anytime soon.Democrats always bring race into it. Most Hispanic people and Black people are pro traditional marriage, and pro life. Conservative values. The Republican party has to do more to reach out.
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Abyssinia
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Look at this article ‘The Republicans Hispanic problem.’Do you live in a heavily Hispanic area? My city is about 93% Hispanic. The Republican party has tried in so many ways to reach out to minority voters. Beating the liberal press out here is just so difficult. Republicans often are not given the time of day here. Communities won’t give them a chance, and that will not change until the lies are publicized as lies. That won’t happen anytime soon.
Former Florida governor Jeb Bush argued that there is no simple solution to reversing the GOP’s fortunes among Hispanics.
“Republicans need to make a better effort at connecting with Hispanic voters,” he said. “The more connected Hispanics feel to the Republican community, the more likely they are to turn out in support of Republicans on Election Day.”
Bush would know. He experienced one of the party’s rare success stories with Hispanics when he won a majority of their votes in his 2002 reelection bid.
Two years later, President George W. Bush won 44 percent of the Hispanic vote, according to national exit polling, by far the best showing in modern presidential history for a Republican.
(There is considerable dispute among Democrats about those numbers, although no hard evidence has been offered to prove the data wrong; the cross-survey numbers, a compilation of all state-by-state exit polling in 2004, showed Republicans winning 40 percent of the Hispanic vote.)
But why did Bush get so much of the Hispanic vote? I think I may have the answer:
“Republicans need to make a better effort at connecting with Hispanic voters,” former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) wrote Friday in reply to questions from the Monitor. “They naturally share similar ideals and principles – freedom, family, an entrepreneurial spirit, and access to a quality education. The more connected Hispanics feel to the Republican community, the more likely they are to turn out in support of Republicans on Election Day.”
Former Governor Bush touts his new initiative, the Hispanic Leadership Network, which brings together Hispanics and Republicans around policy issues – and away from the anti-illegal immigration rhetoric that damaged the GOP’s image during the last election cycle.
Bush’s older brother, former President George W. Bush, had made headway in attracting Hispanics to the GOP. In 2000, he won 35 percent of the Hispanic vote and in 2004, 44 percent. He tried to enact comprehensive immigration reform – securing the borders and establishing a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants – but failed to get enough congressional support. Obama has made even less progress than former President Bush on comprehensive reform, though he has tried to gain passage of the DREAM Act, which provides a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrant children.
csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2011/0326/Can-Republicans-salvage-the-Hispanic-vote
Bush gave illegal immigrants a pathway to citizenship, and a large percent of Hispanics gave their votes to Bush.
The Republican party will have to get rid of the anti illegal immigrant stance for more of the Hispanic vote.
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lynx
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Examples of the Dem race card? Dems play to social services, hence bigger government, that minorities and immigrants are more likely to use. When repubs start giving more sizable tax breaks and services to the people at the bottom, who live paycheck to paycheck sometimes choosing between food and bills, then they’ll get a better chunk of the voters. Right now, it appears that repubs are only concerned about the wealthiest of Americans who are predominantly white.Democrats always bring race into it. Most Hispanic people and Black people are pro traditional marriage, and pro life. Conservative values. The Republican party has to do more to reach out.
thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/05/30/wealth-race-and-gender/
ssa.gov/policy/docs/ssb/v64n4/v64n4p1.html
How are the repubs helping people that aren’t millionaires (reaching out)?
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