Historical Christianity is One, Holy, Catholic, & Apostolic Church

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Mannyfit75 said:
Posting Anti-Catholic website. I have pass them before. Their claims have been refuted before so we won’t go there. I have not seen those over a year or so…
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The first two deal with a lot of specific content. The third is a direct response about error. What did the Catholic church do when their head pastor did this? God smote and destroyed the false religions. I have to admit the first time I read the OT I was in shock. The more I thought about it though, the more I understand why. Who am I to question God? They are his enemies and stem from Satan. Most people are embracing the love parts of the Bible without paying attention to how God deals with his opponents.
 
Mannyfit75 said:
The Catholic Church is the only Biblical Church founded by Jesus Christ. Yes, there were Schisms and break within like the Reformation. But does that nullified God’s promise that he will be with us forever? No. Jesus himself did not choose his disciples wisely. He had one who betrayed him and another denied him three times. Jesus of course gave Peter a chance. He selected him to lead the Apostles, he is the First Pope. Jesus have ways to strengthen weak men.

Yet, he knows the human heart better than anyone else. The members of the Church are sinners and they are human. The Church also has a divine nature. The soul of the Church is the Holy Spirit. With this, the Church cannot ever teach erroneous doctrines.

For over 2,000 yrs, the Catholic Church has protected Christian from heresies and remain faithful to her Groom, Jesus Christ. The link you provided is serious Anti-Catholic. I don’t know if moderators have took notice to this, but I don’t think the link you posted is within Forum Rules policy.

The Biblical and History Church my friend is the Catholic Church.

The website like attempting to show the ECF believe in Sola Scriptura is true. They did use Scripture but they did not professed Scriptura alone as the sole rule of faith for all Christian matters.

They ECF also clearly support the authority of the Church over Scripture. Even St. Augustine said, “I would not believe the Gospel had it not been the authority of the Catholic Church.”

The Two Faces of Catholicism itself is extremely Anti-Catholic. I also see a lot of photos in there which can be misrepresentative.

I can easily take a picture of you looking at a painting of the Mona Lisa and put a caption, RD is praying to Mona Lisa.

If you really want to know what the Catholic believes. You use Catholic resources not Anti-Catholic resources. Anti-Catholic resources are unreliable and they distort the Truth.

The Catholic Church is the Pillar and Bulwark of Truth. Distorting the truth is not something the CC does. She preserves it. Um, she preserves and protects Him. Who is Him? Jesus Christ. He is the Truth. The Word incarnate.

Sola Scriptura started in 1500s and it no Protestant Church today can trace its history back to the Apostles. None. There was only One Church and it was Catholic.
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I have read what you said sir. Read your literature too. I have visited your churches when God pulled me out of the depths of hellish atheism. They were dead and the people were half asleep and most of them I know from outside the church and their conduct was not what the Bible said the fruits of the spirit would be. Just telling you like it is.
I understand your perspective but the Bible I read said by their fruits you will know them. Was I supposed to join the church that had the women I had been sleeping with, drinking beer with, and using every manner of profanity?
You say, well that is only one church and others are different. Well, I did drive 75 miles to another Catholic Church to visit with an ex girlfriend, SAME STORY. It is not my fault the one I visited was a dud. I went to everyone one in town until my old friend, who is COMPLETELY CHANGED, invited me. Thanks be to God!
I am not perfect, I am far far from perfect but if I am going to be moral and sober, I cannot hang out with the people I used to do that stuff with!
 
Rightlydivide said:
The first two deal with a lot of specific content. The third is a direct response about error. What did the Catholic church do when their head pastor did this? God smote and destroyed the false religions. I have to admit the first time I read the OT I was in shock. The more I thought about it though, the more I understand why. Who am I to question God? They are his enemies and stem from Satan. Most people are embracing the love parts of the Bible without paying attention to how God deals with his opponents.
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Do you know the hearts and mind of the Pope, and who made you judge over men, especially the Pope? The photos are deceptive. The Pope was well know for his openess of other Non-Christian faith.

He know theology enough not to worship other gods but One God. He did visit Jewish temple, and attended some services that aren’t Christian. He did so out of respect. He keeps his mind to God.

You know, RD. I have seen a pattern. You think you know the hearts and minds of Catholic? Are you God? As far as I know, only God can judge the hearts and minds of men, not mortals.
 
Rightlydivide said:
The first two deal with a lot of specific content. The third is a direct response about error. What did the Catholic church do when their head pastor did this? God smote and destroyed the false religions.
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It was not a Koran - that was a Book of the Gospels (a kind of Bible that is used at Mass), printed in the Arabic language, for people in that country to be able to go to Mass and hear the Word of God read out in their own language.

As Manny says, anybody can take a photo of anybody, doing anything, and write any caption they want.
 
jmcrae said:
It was not a Koran - that was a Book of the Gospels (a kind of Bible that is used at Mass), printed in the Arabic language, for people in that country to be able to go to Mass and hear the Word of God read out in their own language.

As Manny says, anybody can take a photo of anybody, doing anything, and write any caption they want.
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In here I received a photo of a Soldier with an Iraq boy holding a sign. The sign was digitally altered to say, “Better here than in Michael Jackson’s Never, Never Land.”

We get a kick out of it. The website have taken lengths to distort images of Pope John Paul II and present a misrepresentation of the truth. They also taken speeches and taken them out of context.

Other practices such as adding Chrisian worship with those of Hinduism, Buddhism, Zen Catholicism is not officially approved by the Catholic Church. In fact that is in violation of Liturgical Abuses. Every year the CC has a Synod to address issues of Liturgical abuses. Rome does not see fit of adding pagan practices, especially if they are true.

I know Anti-Catholic will go at length to discredit the Catholic Church, and the site that RD posted are pure examples.
 
Mannyfit75 said:
Do you know the hearts and mind of the Pope, and who made you judge over men, especially the Pope? The photos are deceptive. The Pope was well know for his openess of other Non-Christian faith.

He know theology enough not to worship other gods but One God. He did visit Jewish temple, and attended some services that aren’t Christian. He did so out of respect. He keeps his mind to God.

You know, RD. I have seen a pattern. You think you know the hearts and minds of Catholic? Are you God? As far as I know, only God can judge the hearts and minds of men, not mortals.
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Show me a verse in the Bible that says to respect or visit other religions place of worship. Show me an ECF quote.
 
Rightlydivide said:
Three links, which because I am debating so many people who also include very long passages that are not their efforts either, are three main points;
An argment for Bible alone, an argument about the doctrine and beliefs of the ECF, and because I believe the Bible is very clear about Christ being the only way and all other religions are going to hell, I included a link showing the leader of the Catholic Church engaged in ecumenical behavior with false religions which stem from their father, the Devil.
Anecdotal ramblings by some of the people on the links aside.
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Your links to anti-catholic sites that speak [falsely] regarding the beliefs and practices of the catholic church does not help your case…These sites do not accurately portray the Chruch nor the Early Church Fathers and your attempts to convert Christians here is a work of the devil…
 
Rightlydivide said:
Show me a verse in the Bible that says to respect or visit other religions place of worship. Show me an ECF quote.
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"Love your neighbor as you love yourself." Jesus said.

Your neighbor can be anyone to include Non-Christians. Catholics aren’t required to pray to other gods period. The Pope knows this. I doubt he would break the first commandment. He keeps his mind on God. I believe that he is asking God to convert these people who aren’t Christians.

Any Catholic Christian with that mind set would be interest in converting them. People can’t convert people, God does that. The Holy Spirit inspires people to convert.

We cannot be indifferent with Non-Christians but we know our limitations. We put God first in our hearts.
 
Rightlydivide said:
The first two deal with a lot of specific content. The third is a direct response about error. What did the Catholic church do when their head pastor did this? God smote and destroyed the false religions. I have to admit the first time I read the OT I was in shock. The more I thought about it though, the more I understand why. Who am I to question God? They are his enemies and stem from Satan. Most people are embracing the love parts of the Bible without paying attention to how God deals with his opponents.
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Rightlydivide,

You are unbelievable…Jesus met the Samaritan people and the gentile people where they were. Even Paul reaches out to the Greeks in hi address to the Men of athens from their history to introduce them to the One True God…Jesus found good and truth in the faith and lives of all people and built upon that faith…so did the apostles as they went evangelizing to the four corners of the earth…

Jesus proclaimed salvation from the Jews to the world…but it was Samaritans were the Good neighbors, Thankful for healing [the 10 lepers] etc…

Your view of Christianity is so narrow …Plus you have made yourself a Pope and declared that only you are able to interpret the Holyy Scriputres and have rewritten history to fit your pre-conceived version of historical events…I feel very sad for you…your Personal Version Christian Church is doomed to fracture and fail even faster than the original reformers - they at least held to the basics of an authentic christian belief…
 
YADA said:
Rightlydivide,

You are unbelievable…Jesus met the Samaritan people and the gentile people where they were. Even Paul reaches out to the Greeks in hi address to the Men of athens from their history to introduce them to the One True God…Jesus found good and truth in the faith and lives of all people and built upon that faith…so did the apostles as they went evangelizing to the four corners of the earth…

Jesus proclaimed salvation from the Jews to the world…but it was Samaritans were the Good neighbors, Thankful for healing [the 10 lepers] etc…

Your view of Christianity is so narrow …Plus you have made yourself a Pope and declared that only you are able to interpret the Holyy Scriputres and have rewritten history to fit your pre-conceived version of historical events…I feel very sad for you…your Personal Version Christian Church is doomed to fracture and fail even faster than the original reformers - they at least held to the basics of an authentic christian belief…
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He is very narrow minded.
 
Mannyfit75 said:
He is very narrow minded.
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Just quoting the Bible, God destroyed an entire planet, men, women, children, and babies because of the sin of man. God is a great and powerful God. Narrow minded? Sin is sin. Praise be to God.
 
Rightlydivide said:
Just quoting the Bible, God destroyed an entire planet, men, women, children, and babies because of the sin of man. God is a great and powerful God. Narrow minded? Sin is sin. Praise be to God.
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Who died and make you judge and God?
 
Rightlydivide said:
Just quoting the Bible, God destroyed an entire planet, men, women, children, and babies because of the sin of man. God is a great and powerful God. Narrow minded? Sin is sin. Praise be to God.
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God did so because of sins of men.

God is also merciful. He gives mercy on those who ask for it. I did not say that God is narrow minded. I said that you are narrow minded.
 
Mannyfit75 said:
Who died and make you judge and God?
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About what? That people should not treat other religions as equal but instead present the Bible? I do not think I am God. I am a speck of dust, my righteousness is as filthy disgusting rags before almighty God.
 
Mannyfit75 said:
God did so because of sins of men.

God is also merciful. He gives mercy on those who ask for it. I did not say that God is narrow minded. I said that you are narrow minded.
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You are attacking me because you have ran out of ideas. I am quoting the Bible. I am presenting links. I know you do not link it because it contradicts your belief system and you are giving a highly emotional reaction.
 
Rightlydivide said:
Actually he called them dogs Yada
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No he didn’t. I look over the Scripture and he never called them dogs.
These people are headed straight to hell according to God’s word.
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If they reject the Word of God. Paul mention that the Greek worshipped an un-named God. He told them that this un-name God is Jesus.
You think the whole world is going to be saved? The path is narrow, not my words, that is what God says.
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Depending on who is willing to accept Jesus as the Messiah, those who believe, are baptized, repentent, and ask for God’s mercy are saved by God. Indeed the path is narrow, and not all Christians will go to heaven.
I do not ignore and pretend that hell is not real and that all who are not with God are his enemies. It is our responsibility to preach the truth.
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Preach the Truth which is founded only in the Catholic Church.,
 
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