Yep, in the beginning (as now) the Catholic Church did have it correct!
No. The Septuagint was not used to produce the Masoretic. You may be confusing this with the fact that the KJV of the Christian “OT” was taken from the first complete Masoteric translation.
Yet when presented whith sacred scripture that tells us pointedly that “faith alone” is in fact “dead” you say that we are not reading in “context”? Logically speaking wouldn’t it be you who avoid context when in the face of an avalance of scripture refuting faith alone provide a single justification for ignoring scripture?
Penance is a sacrament of the New Law instituted by Christ in which forgiveness of sins committed after baptism is granted through the priest’s absolution to those who with true sorrow confess their sins and promise to satisfy for the same. It is called a “sacrament” not simply a function or ceremony, because it is an outward sign instituted by Christ to impart grace to the soul. As an outward sign it comprises the actions of the penitent in presenting himself to the priest and accusing himself of his sins, and the actions of the priest in pronouncing absolution and imposing satisfaction. This whole procedure is usually called, from one of its parts, “confession”, and it is said to take place in the “tribunal of penance”, because it is a judicial process in which the penitent is at once the accuser, the person accused, and the witness, while the priest pronounces judgment and sentence. The grace conferred is deliverance from the guilt of sin and, in the case of mortal sin, from its eternal punishment; hence also reconciliation with God, justification. Finally, the confession is made not in the secrecy of the penitent’s heart nor to a layman as friend and advocate, nor to a representative of human authority, but to a duly ordained priest with requisite jurisdiction and with the “power of the keys”, i.e., the power to forgive sins which Christ granted to His Church.
My first response to this particular statement. PLEASE show me this in scripture. Of course your response will be this is what the TRADITIONS of the Church teach. But again I ask with love and disernment "Where is your SCRIPTURAL PROOF.
Lord then principally instituted the Sacrament of Penance, when, being raised from the dead, he breathed upon His disciples saying: ‘Receive ye the Holy Ghost. Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained’ (John 20:22-23). By which action so signal and words so clear the consent of all the Fathers has ever understood that the power of forgiving and retaining sins was communicated to the Apostles and to their lawful successors, for the reconciling of the faithful who have fallen after Baptism
One particular branch of the power given them by their commission particularized(v. 23): “Whosesoever sins you remit, in the due execution of the powers you are entrusted with, they are remitted to them, and they may take the comfort of it; and whosesoever sins you retain, that is, pronounce unpardoned and the guilt of them bound on, they are retained, and the sinner may be sure of it, to his sorrow.” Now this follows upon their receiving the Holy Ghost; for, if they had not had an extraordinary spirit of discerning, they had not been fit to be entrusted with such an authority; for, in the strictest sense, this is a special commission to the apostles themselves and the first preachers of the gospel,(Not mans elected Popes, Bishops and Cardinals) who could distinguish who were in the gall of bitterness and bond of iniquity, and who were not. By virtue of this power, Peter struck Ananias and Sapphira dead, and Paul struck Elymas blind. Yet it must be understood as a general charter to the church and her ministers, not securing an infallibility of judgment to any man or company of men in the world, but encouraging the faithful stewards of the mysteries of God to stand to the gospel they were sent to preach, for that God himself will stand to it. The apostles, in preaching remission, must begin at Jerusalem, though she had lately brought upon herself the guilt of Christ’s blood: “Yet you may declare their sins remitted upon gospel terms.” And Peter did so, Acts ii. 38; iii. 19. Christ, being risen for our justification, sends his gospel heralds to proclaim the jubilee begun, the act of indemnity now passed; and by this rule men shall be judged, ch. xii. 48; Rom. ii. 16; Jam. ii. 12. God will never alter this rule of judgment, nor vary from it; those whom the gospel acquits shall be acquitted, and those whom the gospel condemns shall be condemned, which puts immense honour upon the ministry, and should put immense courage into ministers. Two ways the apostles and ministers of Christ remit and retain sin, and both as having authority:—[1.] By sound doctrine. They are commissioned to tell the world that salvation is to be had upon gospel terms, and no other, and they shall find God will say Amen to it; so shall their doom be. [2.] By a strict discipline, applying the general rule of the gospel to particular persons. “Whom you admit into communion with you, according to the** rules of the gospel**, God will admit into communion with himself; and whom you cast out of communion as impenitent, and obstinate in scandalous and infectious sins, shall be bound over to the righteous judgment of God.”
*(Peter was NOT the Judge, but opon the rules of Gospel and fruits of true repentance he was able to distinguish whether the sin was forgiven according to the Gospel-God’s Word. That is, not by issuing an amount “Hail Marys” to say, and therefore passing a out sentence as a Judge would. The only Judge is GOD and God alone And to urge those in error, as ministers of the word, into true repentence according to the Gospel.) *
So in no way is fallible man or any pope or preist granted to be the judge and sentencer and declares forgiven or unforgiven of anyones sin! For it is the Lord who is the Judge and Redeemer. And in no way by this chapter in John or anywhere eles in the Bible declare theses rights to ANY man or man-elected preist or pope!
While I’m not going to argue your over all point. The above verses speak to the book of Revelations. Again, I’m not saying that your point isn’t correct but too often people just grab whatever verse in the Bible is convenient for the moment no matter how out of context it may be.
Becareful of verses like this when it was the doctrines of the Reformation that came latter and were in fact new and based on personal interpretations of a partial scripture.
You’re right no other Bible has the 73 books of the Bible. That’s because they were removed by the Protestants. Odd behaviour for those who claim to use the Bible as final authority.
Yes indeed Our Lord Jesus Christ is God you wont get any arguments on that.
26 And Jesus beholding, said to them: With men this is impossible: but with God all things are possible. 27 Then Peter answering, said to him: Behold we have left all things, and have followed thee: what therefore shall we have? 28 And Jesus said to them: Amen, I say to you, that you, who have followed me, in the regeneration, when the Son of man shall sit on the seat of his majesty, you also shall sit on twelve seats judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29 And every one that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands for my name’s sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall possess life everlasting. 30 And many that are first, shall be last: and the last shall be first.
Is this what your traditions have taught you? NO books were taken away. YOUR Church Added the Duetero-cannicle and Apocyrphal books to the Bible. Who also, were widly rejected as inspired books to be added to the canon by your early church fathers until the days of Augustines major influences of the church. Read your own church history from an un protestant and un catholic source.
The Reforners exposed the lies of the early Catholic church like… selling of indulgences to buy a loved ones from “purgatory” as you call it and your graven images and your false church traditions.
Catholic Cannon Method
If by “my traditions” you mean Earth History then yes this is my tradtion. The Protestants do not use the historical Bible and honestly you’re lucky to have what you do, as Luthor who gave you your Bible wanted to remove more than just the seven books that are currently missing.
The selling of indulgences is not and was not taught by the Church so it isn’t a “lie” of the Church. It was however a crime perpetrated by certain corrupt individuals in the Church and illicit “pardoners”. Luthor was correct to protest it, he was incorrect to chop up the Bible and start a new Church.
You know whenever someone brings up the statues I figure they’ve run out of substantive arguments.
I appreciate the good intentions. As it turns out I was a Deacon and Seminarian in the Southern Baptist Church which is the church I was brought up in. The Lord through the work of the Holy Spirit revealed to me the True Church. Let me tell you my friend it never felt so good to come home.
“Substantive arguments” Are statues not graven images, or did you just decide to forget about that part of Gods law?
No, I just recognize a pointless distraction when I see one. Just like you ignored the major points of my post to draw that one comment out, that would be an example. Any protestant who brings up statues or icons is a hypocrit as their own homes are churches are filled with “graven images”. The only difference is that when a protestant does it its obviously just for positive and instructive imagery. When a Catholic does it though “Oh God! Paganism!”