Histrionic Parent - How to cope?

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I’d like to hear from anyone with experience with a parent with Histrionic Personality Disorder. My mother suffers from this condition, and the rest of us are suffering quite a bit as a result. If you’ve been in my position:

Do you maintain a close relationship with the person?
Do they have regular contact with your children?
How do you explain their erratic behavior to the kids?
Do you call the person on the behavior when it happens, or do you just let it go?
To whom do you vent your frustrations? Your spouse? A friend? A priest?

Answers, anecdotes, ideas, feedback… all would be helpful and greatly appreciated. I’m feeling a bit lost and overwhelmed at the moment.

Peace of Christ,
Mary
 
Mary, none of the above, but a prayer for you and your family and that God will help you all to find healthy ways to cope.
Prayer also that some kind of helpful treatment becomes available for characteristics that must surely also be a sign of some deep unhappiness in your mother.
 
Mary, none of the above, but a prayer for you and your family and that God will help you all to find healthy ways to cope.
Prayer also that some kind of helpful treatment becomes available for characteristics that must surely also be a sign of some deep unhappiness in your mother.
Thank you so much for the prayer, Trishie. She is incredibly unhappy, and we would all love to see her get effective treatment, though at this point it would take a minor miracle.
 
I’d like to hear from anyone with experience with a parent with Histrionic Personality Disorder. My mother suffers from this condition, and the rest of us are suffering quite a bit as a result. If you’ve been in my position:

Do you maintain a close relationship with the person?
Do they have regular contact with your children?
How do you explain their erratic behavior to the kids?
Do you call the person on the behavior when it happens, or do you just let it go?
To whom do you vent your frustrations? Your spouse? A friend? A priest?

Answers, anecdotes, ideas, feedback… all would be helpful and greatly appreciated. I’m feeling a bit lost and overwhelmed at the moment.

Peace of Christ,
Mary
You need boundaries and to be able to remain sane and as calm as possible when dealing with her. Look into a concept called ‘rational detachment’ (easier said/recommended than done) but I have developed the ability to do this over the years. It is more difficult with family members however.

A close relationship? How close? The closer you get do the crazier you get? If so finding the right balance, the degree you need to have separation (i.e. less frequent phone calls, taking breaks from contact, etc).

If my mom or anyone behaved in a way that I felt would harm my child’s development emotionally, (or otherwise) I would not allow contact or only do so with family under my direct supervision. As I observed I would be assessing the interactions and potential impact on my son ongoing and limit or cut contact alltogether depending on the degree of negativity if there were negativity aside from what would be considered in the range of ‘normal’, as in less than perfect as no one is perfect. But I would have a CLOSE eye and follow up as appropriate.

Does your mom have insight into her issues? Does she have the capacity to gain insight? Does she acknowledge her negative behaviors if confronted or does she blame, deflect, etc?

Explaining to kids- IMO depends on kids age and degree of non normalness. I think if the child is old enough it’s OK to just simply generalize, but I would’t keep this a secret from mom, especially if she is ever to have contact with them when your not there.

I believe on calling people on their behavior. More importantly, if I am going to set a limit on someone (i.e. if you do x again I will do y) you better follow through, always! Or don’t set the limit. If calling her on her behavior results in time and time again her not seemingly being able to acknowledge her behavior (depends on degree to which she is impacted by her isssues) and essentially unable to ‘reality test’ (she won’t agree with your view regardless of trying time and again…well arguing with a brick wall doesn’t make much sense, does it? So it might be best to limit contact and avoid calling on behavior if that is the case.

Vent to anyone you trust, and do it often! lol It’s stressful, you need to get this stuff OUT. Therapy can also be helpful but is typically more of a long term thing rather than a few session venting in your case IMO. It would be better to have at least a few people to ‘vent’ to as being vented to is stressful as well lol You don’t want to vent to one person, overwhelm them, then have them set a limit on you of not talking to you as your driving them crazy with your constant venting. So if you have several people you can spread the venting. And if you have therapy you can work with a professional on strategies to cope, etc in addtion to venting.

It makes a big difference if this is something you can work on WITH your mom. If not it’s a different ballgame.

You can also vent online, there are various groups here with various topics where people share their stories, experiences, etc… check them out. There are probably other resources on the internet in dealing with histrionic people, books, etc. And other internet forums to ‘vent’ also.

Good luck and God Bless,
Bill
 
How does a Histrionic Personality manifest?
Very high strung, emotional, dramatic… to the extent they are doing this more than most anyone, or anyone you know does this.
 
Thanks so much for the thoughtful reply, Bill.
You need boundaries and to be able to remain sane and as calm as possible when dealing with her. Look into a concept called ‘rational detachment’ (easier said/recommended than done) but I have developed the ability to do this over the years. It is more difficult with family members however.

A close relationship? How close? The closer you get do the crazier you get? If so finding the right balance, the degree you need to have separation (i.e. less frequent phone calls, taking breaks from contact, etc).
Yes, I do get crazier the closer we get. She has a way of making you believe you’re the crazy person in the room, not her. Only after the fact does the picture get clear.
If my mom or anyone behaved in a way that I felt would harm my child’s development emotionally, (or otherwise) I would not allow contact or only do so with family under my direct supervision. As I observed I would be assessing the interactions and potential impact on my son ongoing and limit or cut contact alltogether depending on the degree of negativity if there were negativity aside from what would be considered in the range of ‘normal’, as in less than perfect as no one is perfect. But I would have a CLOSE eye and follow up as appropriate.
Good advice.
Does your mom have insight into her issues? Does she have the capacity to gain insight? Does she acknowledge her negative behaviors if confronted or does she blame, deflect, etc?
She has very little insight at this point, and we’re fast losing hope that she may gain any more. Her therapist of seven years has not had any meaningful success with her, but she will not hear of seeing any other.

Almost never will she acknowledge her behaviors. In fact, whenever any of us confronts her about them (which is seldom - we’ve been well trained) she will invariably have us apologizing by the time the conversation is over. Later on we all feel like idiots. She got us again. She still came out unscathed, unchanged, unrepentant. Everyone else is the villain, and we’re all conspiring to drag her name through the mud.
Explaining to kids- IMO depends on kids age and degree of non normalness. I think if the child is old enough it’s OK to just simply generalize, but I would’t keep this a secret from mom, especially if she is ever to have contact with them when your not there.
Could you elaborate on not keeping this a secret from Mom? I’m not sure how to go about explaining to the kids (still young) that their grandmother is “different” and then letting her know they’ve been clued in, especially when she will not acknowledge that there’s anything “different” about her.
I believe on calling people on their behavior. More importantly, if I am going to set a limit on someone (i.e. if you do x again I will do y) you better follow through, always! Or don’t set the limit. If calling her on her behavior results in time and time again her not seemingly being able to acknowledge her behavior (depends on degree to which she is impacted by her issues) and essentially unable to ‘reality test’ (she won’t agree with your view regardless of trying time and again…well arguing with a brick wall doesn’t make much sense, does it? So it might be best to limit contact and avoid calling on behavior if that is the case.
I think we might be at that point now. It’s painful to think it, but so far it’s been a nightmare trying to get her to take responsibility for her drama. We spent the first half of the year in family turmoil, trying (unsuccessfully) to impose consequences on her for some very destructive behavior. In the end, I feel like all we did was lose half a year. We’re right back to where we started.
Vent to anyone you trust, and do it often! lol It’s stressful, you need to get this stuff OUT. Therapy can also be helpful but is typically more of a long term thing rather than a few session venting in your case IMO. It would be better to have at least a few people to ‘vent’ to as being vented to is stressful as well lol You don’t want to vent to one person, overwhelm them, then have them set a limit on you of not talking to you as your driving them crazy with your constant venting. So if you have several people you can spread the venting. And if you have therapy you can work with a professional on strategies to cope, etc in addtion to venting.
I hear what you’re saying. I also want to be careful from a moral standpoint not to dishonor my mother (who, no matter how great her shortcomings, is still my mother) by speaking too loosely of her with too many people. I do have a wonderful husband and a small circle of close and holy friends who will listen and be discreet. I thank God for that.
It makes a big difference if this is something you can work on WITH your mom. If not it’s a different ballgame.
Different ballgame. 😦
You can also vent online, there are various groups here with various topics where people share their stories, experiences, etc… check them out. There are probably other resources on the internet in dealing with histrionic people, books, etc. And other internet forums to ‘vent’ also.
Good suggestion – I hadn’t even considered online “support” networks for family members of histrionics. I’ll look into that. Thank you again for your many useful suggestions. God bless. 🙂
 
Very high strung, emotional, dramatic… to the extent they are doing this more than most anyone, or anyone you know does this.
Yes, this. Acting out, assuming “roles” (hero, victim, martyr, flirt, movie star, orphan, etc.) attention-getting, narcissism, vanity, extreme childishness… it’s completely exhausting.
 
I had to cut off contact with my mother about 5 years ago due to her behaviors. Her out of control actions were frightening my children and she denied any understanding or culpability. I told her that until we could meet with a counselor (her choice) together to discuss her behaviors and the effects they had on our family I was unwilling to continue to expose myself and my children to her frightening actions.

She has continually denied that she ever did anything wrong and hasn’t seen her grandchildren in that time. The kids have seen her at her worst. I made the mistake of leaving them with her for 20 minutes while I ran to the grocery store. My oldest (11 at the time) said as soon as I pulled out my mother started crying, threw herself face down on the floor and started saying she was going to die because she couldn’t breathe. As soon as I got home she hopped up to meet me at the door. The kids wanted me to call 911 because they were convinced she was really going to die. When I questioned her about it she said that she ‘wasn’t doing that’ and that she was just ‘fussing’ about her head cold. That’s just one easy to describe episode.

I have forgiven her but I’m still very sad that she doesn’t want to or is incapable of changing her behavior so that we can have some relationship. I can’t trust her alone with my children and know from past experience that she would take any chance she could to try to get her digs in when I turned my back for a second. She’s not above passing nasty notes to a kid.

Her behavior used to hurt my feelings terribly and my husband was a gem trying to be supportive of me while not complaining about my mother to me or my children. However, the lingering anger/sadness after my contact with my mother would affect our home life negatively until I decided to cut her off.

I’ve spoken to two priests about this. They reassured me that my forgiveness and continued prayers for healing for her and a willingness to resume a relationship should she show some understanding of her behavior and some proof that she’s working to fix it are adequate for meeting the commandment to honor my parent.

They also reminded me that my obligation to my husband and children is the primary one. Since I’ve stopped having contact I’m less anxious over all from worrying about what ‘craziness’ is coming next. I don’t have as many sad mood swings from feeling like I’ve been hit in the heart by my own mother. I’m more relaxed and able to be present to deal with my own children’s needs.

Both priests did suggest that I try not to say negative things about my mother to vent to just anyone as if I were gossiping about someone. I had been doing that by trying to ‘top’ someone who was complaining about their mother. I could almost always win with my stories. Now if I ever need to talk about her I stick to my husband, brother and a good friend or two that know the history.

After I cut off contact, I explained to the children that their grandmother has a mental illness/personality disorder (she also has a history of anxiety/depression). I reminded them of some episodes and we talked about how they felt- confused and scared. I told them that she made me feel that way when I was a child, that I didn’t like it and that now that I knew she was doing it to them I was going to protect them. I did tell them what I had asked for to resume contact and they seemed to understand and the oldest definitely appreciated it.

Now I’m able to focus on the nicer memories with my kids and myself. We try to talk about the fun we had with her and we regularly say prayers that she’ll get better. My older children remember her -the good and the bad. My youngest son doesn’t remember much probably just the stories.

It all makes me sad but she is an adult. I believe she is doing the best that she can but that her best still included hurting me and scaring my children. For whatever reason she is choosing not to seek counseling to enable us to have a relationship. I’ve come to accept her choice. I’m sure she still believes I’m the one hurting her.

My belief is that only God can cure this type of disorder. These people are so turned inward that there is no connection to anyone else. My brother and I have even considered it some type of demonic possession based on the total focus on self that she has.

You need to decide how much damage she is doing to you and the children. Your children are your primary concern now. If she is doing scary or mean things to them you may need to cut out contact. I’ll pray for you and your family. God bless.
 
I’d like to hear from anyone with experience with a parent with Histrionic Personality Disorder. My mother suffers from this condition, and the rest of us are suffering quite a bit as a result. If you’ve been in my position:

Do you maintain a close relationship with the person?NO
Do they have regular contact with your children?NO
How do you explain their erratic behavior to the kids?The blunt truth, dont candy coat their actions
Do you call the person on the behavior when it happens, or do you just let it go?Called them out multiple times finally cut them off, was guilted by others for it because she was my mother, I had nervous breakdown and still tried to do the “right thing” according to others, my health deteriorated, cut off completely…took years to have some type of normalcy and ability to "forgive myself for taking care of mer and mine"
To whom do you vent your frustrations? Your spouse? A friend? A priest? All of the above

Answers, anecdotes, ideas, feedback… all would be helpful and greatly appreciated. I’m feeling a bit lost and overwhelmed at the moment.

Peace of Christ,
Mary
God doesnt want us to be abused, if boundaries dont work sometimes you have to practice tough love. You will be ridiculed, everyone has an opinion. I should have cut off years earlier, I am still seeing repercussions for waiting too long for her to change
 
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