holy days of obligation

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Erick_Ybarra said:
Either way the function for binding and loosing are given to the church, the diocese of the church. Otherwise two or three going to the universal church is absurd and impractical. The pope does not have the Authority to make up doctrine, that would hinder the apostllicity of the church h
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Obviously you didn’t finish your thought.

You are making a straw man. As with all straw men, you can build it up to knock it down but it is not true. It is also dangerously close to bearing false witness.
 
Someone said that whatever the pope binds and looses abolish bound and loosed in heaven. Is there no limit? Can the pope just decide to enforce observance of laws?
 
This thread has, not at all surprisingly, gotten way of track by the OPs own doing.
 
Erick_Ybarra said:
Either way the function for binding and loosing are given to the church, the diocese of the church. Otherwise two or three going to the universal church is absurd and impractical. The pope does not have the Authority to make up doctrine, that would hinder the apostllicity of the church h
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The pope does not have the authority to “make up doctrine”…your statement and I agree with it.

The pope can declare doctrine, not make it up. He is infallible only with regard to faith and morals, (by the power of the Holy Spirit.)
 
Erick_Ybarra said:
So then why is it a sin to not observe holy days
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To deliberately not observe the holy days is an act of disobedience to the Church. (Christ).

If we love God and believe in His revelation of Himself we should desire to obey the discipline of the Church.
Something is awry when we are rebellious. When we practice obedience it should be in humility and for the greater glory of God.
 
Erick_Ybarra said:
So then why is it a sin to not observe holy days
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Sin is a willful disobedience of God’s law as articulated, among other means, through Church teaching. Mass is the primary means for Divine life to be dispensed to us while we live here on Earth. If we choose to not go to Mass, we are choosing to miss out on our Heaven on Earth. If we choose to not go to Heaven, we choose to go to hell instead.

There are over 20 holy days (I forget the actual number, but they’re listed in the Catholic Source book) that the local bishops choose from for their respective dioceses. In the United States, there are 5 holy days that the USCCB have determined to be Holy Days of Obligation. That number has changed at least twice in my lifetime. These days are chosen for the purpose of increasing the graces of the faithful. If I decide not to go, I am saying I do not want the grace.

That is why missing Mass (intentionally) on a Holy Day is a mortal sin.
 
Dorothy said:
To deliberately not observe the holy days is an act of disobedience to the Church. (Christ).

If we love God and believe in His revelation of Himself we should desire to obey the discipline of the Church.
Something is awry when we are rebellious. When we practice obedience it should be in humility and for the greater glory of God.
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Good post. It looks like we were typing at the same time.
 
Erick_Ybarra said:
Galatians 4:8-11 ESV

Formerly, when you did not know God, you were enslaved to those that by nature are not gods. But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how can you turn back again to the weak and worthless elementary principles of the world, whose slaves you want to be once more? You observe days and months and seasons and years! I am afraid I may have labored over you in vain.

Having the spirit frees us from any other obligations besides christ it seems
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You seem to forget that the Church is the Body of Christ. Refusing to submit yourself to the Body of Christ, is refusing to submit yourself to Christ.
 
Erick_Ybarra said:
Hebrews 10:26 says to not forsake the assembling of ourselves. The lords day is for our lord Jesus, no one else. The church cannot make new decisions which are binding in wmuch transgression is available if that doctrine they are enforcing does not come from the apostles.

Even if the catholic church is the true church they are wrong on this
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Read 2 Peter 1:20. Are you not privately interpreting scripture? You will notice that this verse alone undermines all of “bible” Christianity.

As to your question:

“Do this, as often as you do it, in memory of Me” (1 Corinthians 11:215)

“Whatever you hold bound on earth is held bound in heaven” (Matthew 16:19, 18:18)

"For as often as you shall eat this bread, and drink the chalice, you shall shew the death of the Lord, until he come. (1 Corinthians 11:26)

Each and every holy day of obligation is a mass in which Christ is present and which commemorates a particular act of Christ.

Calling to mind the innumerable acts of Christ, It is amazing how few days of obligation there actually are.

Is the solution to this to have zero days of obligation to the Lord?
 
The requirement to attend Mass every Sunday and Holy Day of Obligation is part of the Precepts of the Catholic Church. Simply put, these are the bare minimums that that the Church states a person ought to be doing in order to be considered a proper, practicing Catholic. Naturally, in the case of the precepts, doing more than what is considered the minimum is better, but not required.

Violating the precept to attend Mass on a Sunday or Holy Day of Obligation (without a good reason) is considered sinful because the Church sees this as a violation of the commandments to honor God and the Lord’s Day. Catholics believe that the Magisterium has a God-given authority (and guidance of the Holy Spirit) to instruct the faithful in how to observe the Ten Commandments, among other things.
 
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