Holy Ghost, Can Give Direct Perfect Truths, According To The Bible, With The Bible And As To Moses And Paul Today?

[Logan5]

If you choose to put your blinders on and ignore the gifts of the Holy Spirit, that is your mistake, not mine. Just because you don’t understand/believe/accept some aspects of God’s design for his people doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

Could you tell me about how it is you think I ignore the gifts of the Spirit?
I left Catholic practice in listening to the vocal gifts. They became my main thrust. And I found revivalism, in which the use of the gifts was revived and vibrant. One after the other, decently and in order, they would speak after worship, a word of knowledge, a prophecy, and interpretation of tongues, no time for a teaching. We’d go home.

Catholics rely on the full deposit of faith. Priest are part of that deposit. We don’t rely solely on them, but we allow them to do the job that Christ ordained them to do.

I found that we Catholic youth were not taught much, about receiving, even told, you don’t need to. Dry teaching. We did rely solely on them.

Fortunately, some did give us word from the Spirit, and outpouring including seeing healings.

Fr Emeliano Tardiff MSC taught that we can use the word of knowledge, there were healings, and he advocated confession, communion… mentioning an Evangelical who asked for confession… Fr was led by the Spirit into a brothel, and the women came out repentant. He spoke to me.

It was hard to find extra teaching, like Thomas Aquinas, Catholic degrees were out there though. A lot off topic though.

Fr Emeliano taught roughly, It is a Catholic teaching that some practice the traditions, the sacraments, and others the Charisma. But this is a false teaching, not a Catholic teaching. We must practice a balance of the traditions and Charisma.

I have the audio tape of the sermon.

Fermat, cessationism is a false Protestant teaching, Catholic Charismatic Renewal and Catholics generally and Revivalists Evangelicals reject.

You can’t really say Catholics don’t solely rely on the priests, one’s that don’t best explain how the became exceptional.

 

[juliamajor]

Could you tell me about how it is you think I ignore the gifts of the Spirit?
I left Catholic practice in listening to the vocal gifts. They became my main thrust. And I found revivalism, in which the use of the gifts was revived and vibrant. One after the other, decently and in order, they would speak after worship, a word of knowledge, a prophecy, and interpretation of tongues, no time for a teaching. We’d go home.

I found that we Catholic youth were not taught much, about receiving, even told, you don’t need to. Dry teaching. We did rely solely on them.

Fortunately, some did give us word from the Spirit, and outpouring including seeing healings.

Fr Emeliano Tardiff MSC taught that we can use the word of knowledge, there were healings, and he advocated confession, communion… mentioning an Evangelical who asked for confession… Fr was led by the Spirit into a brothel, and the women came out repentant. He spoke to me.

It was hard to find extra teaching, like Thomas Aquinas, Catholic degrees were out there though. A lot off topic though.

Fr Emeliano taught roughly, It is a Catholic teaching that some practice the traditions, the sacraments, and others the Charisma. But this is a false teaching, not a Catholic teaching. We must practice a balance of the traditions and Charisma.

I have the audio tape of the sermon.

Fermat, cessationism is a false Protestant teaching, Catholic Charismatic Renewal and Catholics generally and Revivalists Evangelicals reject.

You can’t really say Catholics don’t solely rely on the priests, one’s that don’t best explain how the became exceptional.

What the heck are you trying to say and what is your point? Your post is very muddy and wandering all over the place.Clarify please.!

 

[Logan5]

What the heck are you trying to say and what is your point? Your post is very muddy and wandering all over the place.Clarify please.!

I am disappointed that you misunderstand.

From your quotation of me…

My points are to counter and explain, why I counter the quotes from fermat that my writings follow.

Beginning with the gifts of the Spirit, I explained I did not ignore the gifts of the Spirit, asking for explanation as to why I could be thought to ignore, what I promote. Practices I advocate, that really most Catholics ignore.

That there was much practice of the spiritual gifts in the Pentecostal churches around Sydney.

The second paragraph, here I explain that we did rely on the priests solely, they did not encourage spiritual gifts. They wanted asking for the Holy Spirit to be kept to a minimum, only mass and confession, The rosary at home.

In the third paragraph I mention some priests were exceptions and wanted us healed and for us to receive the Holy Spirit.

I mention Fr Emeliano in the fourth paragraph. His practice and some of his works.

In the fifth paragraph, I write that it was hard to find the teachings I needed in the Catholic church. And the ones available were not so relevant to me. I mention Thomas Aquinas for I wanted more of God.

In the sixth paragraph, I write about Fr Emeliano’s teaching about practicing the sacraments and Charisma. Not only one or the other, as real Catholic teaching, not opinion, authoritative. Showing the need for all according to fermat’s own church teaching that we need the Charisma, the Holy Spirit gifts, the presence and power of the Spirit.

In the seventh paragraph, I write I bought the recording of the sermon by that priest.

In the eighth paragraph, I say that Pentecostals and Catholics reject the teaching of cessationists that the gifts of the Spirit and the Charisma ceased from the church after the death of the last apostle. Catholics do not accept cessationism. Nor Pentecostals.

In the last paragraph I ask fermat how he can think Catholic youth… don’t rely on the priests, and write that ones that don’t are exceptional.

I am saying he misunderstand and makes fictitious points.

I don’t know where the idea came from, about me ignoring gifts of the Spirit, and the one about only partly relying on priests, as normal practice.

 

[Sword_Brethren]

,9.

The bishops of the Spanish inquisition did not seem like bishops, instead killing Christ all over again. A lot like pharisees.

They needed the people they were killing, and Spain also did.

John Wesley!

The few that were executed in the Spanish Inquisition were not of Chirst. Those executed were wolves in sheep’s clothing. The Spanish inquisiton kept Spain free from heresy while the rest of Europe was torn apart by it. It is a bishop’s duty to protect Christ’s flock from wolves.

John Wesley was no prophet.

 

[juliamajor]

The few that were executed in the Spanish Inquisition were not of Chirst. Those executed were wolves in sheep’s clothing. The Spanish inquisiton kept Spain free from heresy while the rest of Europe was torn apart by it. It is a bishop’s duty to protect Christ’s flock from wolves.

John Wesley was no prophet.

So those who died deserved it? Poppycock!What about charity? what about love?No wonder some religious people seem to justify torture -with the coat of piety you can justify anything.Any bad behavior becomes noble. Any self-serving behavior,any prejudice, can be justified by saying"God wants me to". This does not just refer to Catholics .We are all guilty and justify our hatreds of anything(race,color,religion,political stance etc,) by putting it our opponent in the realm of the ‘evil one’. Silly and we are all guilty of it(including me).
If I have hurt your feelings in anyway Logan5 please forgive me! Nonsense like that written above just clarifies that we can think we are being a servant when all we are doing is self-serving.
Peace of Christ be with you Logan! And all who are on this thread-you can’t go wrong by being charitable-love cover a multitude of sins.