Homeowners and neighborhoods under Biden

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Hi,
Hoping someone can breakdown what Biden’s plan is a little clearer as someone who’s looking to buy a home next year. I was a little confused by this article and wondered what it meant as it pertained to renters with vouchers moving into to middle class/ wealthy neighborhoods in suburbia. (Or if he’s referring to apartment buildings?)I read that he’s going to allow more renter vouchers and stop redlining. I may not understand exactly what this means or if it’s done anymore but we rent in nyc and am looking to move into our first home in long island . Is what I’ve read an indication that in the middle class or wealthier suburbs across America there’s going to be renters with vouchers and no community is exempt from these laws? What is a voucher?

I admit I don’t know much at all about real estate or Biden’s plan and my question sounds elementary sorry I am trying to think how to word this and type with a toddler crawling over me.
I didn’t even know they weren’t allowed to have renters with vouchers in certain areas before and wondering your thoughts on how this will affect neighborhoods good or bad. Thank you


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Likely nothing is going to change. Housing laws are more at the local and state level.

My hometown has already had vouchers for poor people to rent in wealthier neighborhoods for some years. The advantages are that the landlords are forced to keep properties up to code, and the kids of people on public assistance get to attend the area schools which are pretty decent. I haven’t seen them bringing down neighborhoods and to be very honest I can’t tell who’s on vouchers and who isn’t. The suburbs in decline are the ones that suffered a big economic downturn because a major employer left their area or the original residents died off without a desirable group of new young residents moving in. It doesn’t have to do with rent vouchers for those on welfare.
 
Thank you. I, as a renter for decades, had a scary experience with a renter neighbors said were getting their rent paid by the government. I had a feeling that’s what they meant by voucher but wasn’t sure. I’m sure many are really great families and I probably lived and live with a bunch without realizing. I actually had a traumatic experience with that particular renter years ago with my family so that’s why I asked, just to understand a bit more. Thank you for your answer. Sounds like no big concern or change to be expected. Although they mention Biden will stop redlining , after looking into it I thought that was illegal already so not sure what new thing he’s going to do.
 
Tis_Bearself said:
Likely nothing is going to change. Housing laws are more at the local and state level.
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Not if Biden issues a directive that withholds Federal monies for states and cities who do not join in his plan. Government housing placed smack dab in suburbia that moves poor people from the cities into the suburbs is what they want to do. Say goodbye to your peaceful lifestyle and safe schools.

It started under Obama with his FFFH (Further Furthering Fair Housing) plan, and a President Biden will take it further. Funny how these ideas never seem to affect the neighborhoods they live in.
 
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Well then, let those people move there on their own when they have worked long enough to afford to move into the neighborhood. None of the “Projects” that the government has ever built have been safe places for people in the area. Single mother households with no father figures around is a recipe for disaster.
 
People already can and do escape poverty.

This doesn’t help them, this just brings other people down.
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We live in privately owned, affordable housing on the edge of a very tony, affluent neighborhood, and I haven’t seen it ever cause any problems. It was all we could afford, and it’s a nice neighborhood of brick patio homes that are good enough for anyone. The houses are close together and I’m vaguely reminded of the British homes in the sitcom Keeping Up Appearances. The HOA doesn’t allow rentals, about which I have mixed feelings — keeps out unstable transients of questionable financial means, but doesn’t allow them to be used as investment properties. If I could do that, we could live in one house and make a handsome monthly income off of renting out the other one. Broad as it is long.

The neighborhood across the street is a little shaky, cheap vinyl duplexes, a slightly different “class” of people, but likewise, there have never been any problems I know of.
 
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Odilon said:
Well then, let those people move there on their own when they have worked long enough to afford to move into the neighborhood. None of the “Projects” that the government has ever built have been safe places for people in the area. Single mother households with no father figures around is a recipe for disaster.
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You realize the old single mothers thing isn’t an argument against welfare, right? It’s an argument against perverse incentives. They told women if there was no male in the household they’d get more money.
 
Fear of the poor entering the neighbourhood strikes me as about as un-Catholic as you can get…
I’m a 6 figure income professional, but I know there’s people on government assistance in my neighborhood as well. I don’t see an issue.
 
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And that is socialism/communism, it brings people down to the lowest common denominator. Kamala and Biden want equal outcomes, not equal opportunity which is the hallmark of our system.
 
twf said:
Fear of the poor entering the neighbourhood strikes me as about as un-Catholic as you can get…
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Didn’t the Pope once say something about the shepherds of the Church smelling like the sheep? Is that just something we expect priests to do, or do the laity need to as well?
 
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And that is socialism/communism, it brings people down to the lowest common denominator.
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Yeah no it’s not. Socialism and communism are much more specific despite the attempts of some to dilute the meaning to a vague ‘any time the government does something to help people that’s socialism.’
 
That’s really ‘othering’ the poor. How do you know they don’t already live in such a neighborhood?
 
You know, people who are poor are not necessarily bad people with wild, lawless kids who are stupid. That is what you seem to be implying. I live in a mixed ethnic neighborhood in a borough of NYC, consisting of Blacks, Latinos, Asians, Indians, Muslims, Whites, and Orthodox Jews of varied economic means. I see some people using food stamps and other government resources at the supermarket. We all get along just fine and there is no crime to speak of. Everyone does their own thing and minds their own business.
 
StudentMI said:
Didn’t the Pope once say something about the shepherds of the Church smelling like the sheep? Is that just something we expect priests to do, or do the laity need to as well?
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Let us know to which inner city location you have moved to and how things are working out.
 
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You know, people who are poor are not necessarily bad people with wild, lawless kids who are stupid. That is what you seem to be implying. I live in a mixed ethnic neighborhood in a borough of NYC, consisting of Blacks, Latinos, Asians, Indians, Muslims, Whites, and Orthodox Jews of varied economic means. I see some people using food stamps and other government resources at the supermarket. We all get along just fine and there is no crime to speak of. Everyone does their own thing and minds their own business.
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And that is just fine with me as you have used the freedom you have to actually live there. It is quite another thing if the government forced suburbia to take in a group of people who really cannot afford to live there.
 
I don’t understand. How does moving poor people into wealthy neighborhoods help them get out of poverty?
 
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