Homeschooling in 2020

[Anicette]

I know there is a policy document that was circulated that talks about knowing about masturbation and how “you can get pleasurable feelings from different body parts” in the infant and junior school curriculum. Again, I’m speaking in an Irish context, and at the moment we’re on a bender of liberalism.

Horrible. I hope parents are allowed to drop out their children from theses curriculum.

One more think that make more likely to want to homeschool.

When these sorts of decisions are taken in “sex” education I don’t think that having a less liberal governement means to overturn it.

 

[Anicette]

How do you homeschool a child with ADHD or attention problems?

No. But the three year old girl of our friends who is homeschooled may have a problem of attention/hyperactivity according to her parents. I don’t know of it is not too early to be sure, but I see her to be anable to stay in place and listen to an instruction when my child has no problem.

She is with a nanny the morning and aslo go to the park everyday as they live in a small appartment and go sportive activities.

I don’t think you should overthinking special cases before having them.

Does someone here have any experience with homeschooling a child with dyslexia?
Just by curiosity because it maybe an issue for us, aznd i don’t know how I can manage it unless to go to a real school.

@DivineMercy01
Do you have know how many a private lesson/curriculum may cost?
Well, because my problem is that a private lesson is very expensive, and cost much more than our Catholic school. We cannot afford.

 

[DivineMercy01]

Parents cannot opt out of things like sex ed that are required for a student to graduate.

This story tore my heart out when it was released a few years ago. U.S. Catholic school expels student because parents opposed ‘erotic’ sex-ed | News | LifeSite The high school student was actually expelled because his parents wanted him to learn about sexual intercourse from them, not the way the school was presenting it.

I personally don’t think I would wait until the kid was in high school to have the sex talk (would have had it in middle school because of puberty, bodily changes, etc). However, it is up to the parents to decide how they are going to teach their children.

This conversation is making my homeschooling case stronger Thanks, everyone

 

[1ke]

Parents cannot opt out of things like sex ed that are required for a student to graduate.

That depends on where you live.

 

[Anicette]

thanks you for the article.
It is strange because they write that this sex “ed” lesson is part of the theology course even if what they describe is beyound this topic such as the detail of contraception and graphic details of sexuality.

That is sad because it is Catholics that are excluded from the Church circles.

I would not that it can be worst, as parents in germany had already put in jail for having keeping their children at home during sex edcucation.

For sex talk, it is not necessary that the parents learn their children the biological details. Biology class exists for that. But it is our responsability to give meaning on sexuality, marriage, procreation. And it is not necessary a talk but a progression according the needs of the child.

 

[DivineMercy01]

Preach.

I was appalled to learn this was a Catholic school in Nashville, as Catholic schools should not be teaching this in graphic detail, nor about contraception methods. Why would a high schooler need to know about contraception unless he was planning to fornicate? It’s like Catholic high schools have become public schools with a religion class.

 

[AdamP88]

it works more or less but at least people can have a good professional formation without having a high diploma level

In fact, in many parts of Europe, once you leave high school, nobody really cares about your high school diploma. Employers don’t necessarily ask for it. It’s only for university entry really.

 

[Anicette]

Well, in France Catholic schools have to teach the same things as public school as they are mostly public-funded, and the children are not a lot different than in public school. there is just more children from practicing Catholic families. It is just a normal school just an optional Catholic class.

So of course they have biology lessons where they are teach the same thing such as the different forms of contraception and the basic of intercourse, of procreation, abortion, in vitro fertilization… But not natural methods of family planning. And all this is of course not linked at all with marriage.
But that’s nothing to do this theology classs such as written in this article.

For eg, me (20 years ago) i learnt basic of intercourse and procreation in biology class at 12.
We have a group talk at 13 on sexuality, but we speak more on affective relationship. there is no graphic image etc. parents have to sign a paper. That’s less than in this article.

In the catholic school I worked, the biology teacher have ask to 15/16 years old children after the lesson on contraception to each girl individually and in front of all the students “if you fall pregnant now, would you abort or not?”

 

[jclarkson]

“if you fall pregnant now , would you abort or not?

Makes a little bit of me die inside.

 

[Anicette]

In fact, in many parts of Europe, once you leave high school, nobody really cares about your high school diploma. Employers don’t necessarily ask for it. It’s only for university entry really.

Possible, but without the baccalaureate, if you have no other diploma you can be really annoyed. Of course no university, but many possibilities to work in public function are closed etc.

I agree that in real life, the baccalaureate means nothing because it does not validate any professional ability. It is not enough for employers. Unless it is a professional baccalaureate, a diploma that exists in France.

On the other side, I have a master’s degree and had never been able to insert myself in professional life, and my brother who is a drop out without any diploma is a successfull small businessman after doing nothing for 3 years… Of course if he had done a trade schoolm he would have more opportunity and more money, but “know how” is often more important than knwoledge!

 

[Anicette]

Anicette:

“if you fall pregnant now , would you abort or not?

Makes a little bit of me die inside.

@jclarkson,
If I can relieve you a little, there was some girls that said they think they will keep the baby (depend on who is the father). And one that strongly said she will not abort.

And more, one other said she will never accept to be the person who accompagnied a woman who abort (as it is a mandate to an underage girl).

And some girls said strongly they will never accept to wear an IUD after the teacher said it prevent the implantation of an embryo. Even if the teacher said them “but is only a few cells!”, they answers they would not accept that!

One think to note is that it is not as in US, we have never give the option to think of adoption instead of abortion. Even if we can legally abandon a newborn.

 

[DivineMercy01]

Adoption is an option that needs to be considered and less stigmatized. In the US It is possible, but it’s hard to do out of state. I think I’m going to start a thread on adoption and fostering.

 

[jclarkson]

If I can relieve you a little, there was some girls that said they think they will keep the baby (depend on who is the father). And one that strongly said she will not abort.

While this is good to hear, how can that question be asked by a teacher in a Catholic school?

 

[Anicette]

Anicette:

If I can relieve you a little, there was some girls that said they think they will keep the baby (depend on who is the father). And one that strongly said she will not abort.

While this is good to hear, how can that question be asked by a teacher in a Catholic school?

For a very simple reason. because it was a biology/health prevention class, not a catechism/Catholic class.
The curriculum apply to all schools that are state-funded and all diocesan schools are state funded. So the content is the same.

The teacher is an atheist that has nothing against catholicism and even would have no problem if we put a cross in his classroom, as long as any religious view don’t intervenes in his lesson.

But I agree with you that there is a problem in a catholic school and I have ask myself if I should report it to the director or the priest to have their opinion. But i don’t want to create trouble andf I am weak so…

Unfortunately there is worst. When we work to find the decisions for our school many workgroups conclude that we need to have “planned parenthood” to come to edcuate in the school!!! At around the same time I go to a formation for Catholic school workers at the proposition to our bishop. Where learnt that Planned Parenthood has no place to our schools because their action is incompatible with Church’s doctrine. We should go to them only when we have no other alternative such as for rape or abuse. And in waiting that we have our structures to answer these cases (that would never happened…)

So working or being a student in a catholic school is a lot of moral and intellectual gym!

 

[TC3033]

Parents cannot opt out of things like sex ed that are required for a student to graduate.

I’m going to have to do some more digging on this. I hardly find lifesitenews as a credible source (which has been proven out multiple times on this board).

This Catholic school would be the first high school that I have ever seen that has A) has a class called “sex ed” in their curriculum and B) is mandatory for graduation.

Every curricula that I have ever experienced and seen has a class called “health” which is mandatory for graduation. Within health class there is a “unit” on sex ed that is very…very easy for a family to opt their child out of. I wonder where you are at that the public school actually has a sexual education class in their curriculum (that would have to last at least a semester) and is a graduation mandate.

Side bar: According to the link, it sounds like the parents going public had just as much to do (if not more) with the school not wanting the pupil back as the attempt to opt out.

Side bar II: I surprised the parents didn’t do a little more homework of their own on the school curriculum before enrolling (if indeed we’re getting the whole…non slanted story here, which I doubt we are because lifesitenews)…

This conversation is making my homeschooling case stronger

Really…it sounds like more of a “he said she said” (with posters in Europe)…I’d more question the schools (if indeed US public schools), I’m not the only one to say this, it’s pretty easy to opt a student out of the sex ed portion of health class.

 

[jclarkson]

The curriculum apply to all schools that are state-funded and all diocesan schools are state funded. So the content is the same.

Don’t get me wrong, I think that abortion should be taught in schools (even Catholic) - because a school needs to prepare children for the real world. And young adults will come across these things in due course. There’s a right and a wrong way to discuss issues like this and the way you described it, it doesn’t sound like the right way is used at all (in my opinion of course).

 

[Anicette]

Maybe a better choice would to explain that abortion is undoubtly considered as a “right” in our country. But it is a difficult topic and a consensus in opinions does not really exists, and some people object it. That’s why we have a conscience clause for doctors, and why some women would never want to abort.

then maybe ask students to give an feeling, but respect that they may prefer silence.
Because the question was a little stupid: it is as if all students is the class have sex (that is not true) or are at risk of being rape.

 

[Anicette]

@TC3033,

If that is easy to drop out a student of the sex portion of heath class, fine!
Another poster, Ike said it depend where you live.

And I know that I am one of the target 'the posters in Europe". I was just sharing my opinion and experience.

And sex education is one point but not all the reasons for homeschooling. If it is the only reason, the parents may quickly be overwelmed and stop.
And it is much more difficult to homeschool all the school mandate time, particularly in high grades. So the question of sex education may come back as initial despite homeschooling for some years.

 

[TC3033]

If that is easy to drop out a student of the sex portion of heath class, fine!

Where I’m at, yes…it’s that easy.

Another poster, Ike said it depend where you live.

Which again is true.

And I know that I am one of the target 'the posters in Europe". I was just sharing my opinion and experience.

Oh, ya…understood. My point was where you’re at vs. here in the states is going to be A LOT different.

Only 10 states here have a policy where you can neither opt in or out of the sex ed portion of health. I don’t see that lasting very long though.

 

[Anicette]

I agree that the situation should be very different!
That’s why the OP should consider what is going on where she lives. apparently she is aware.

Only 10 states here have a policy where you can neither opt in or out of the sex ed portion of health. I don’t see that lasting very long though.

What do you mean by your last sentence?