Homeschooling: It's not what you think

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St. Petersburg Times
June 25, 2005
REBECCA CATALANELLO

Yearbook, drama lessons, field trips, even classes at public school. Homeschooling gets a new look from a generation craving more time with their kids.

Twenty years ago, homeschooling was a crime in Florida. Parents who wanted to teach their kids at home did so in secrecy. With blinds drawn.

They wanted to protect their kids from society’s evils; society, in turn, thought of them as zealots.

In 1984, a group of parents huddled in an Orlando convention center to form an association of homeschoolers. The group, in the words of a founding member, was “pretty weird.” The stereotype of homeschoolers - religious conservatives and spelling bee winners - remains to this day.

Everything else has changed.

Homeschooling has gone mainstream. It has graduations and conventions, yearbooks and extracurriculars. Kids learn at co-ops, on the Internet, at museums and even at public schools.

Increasingly, it’s for people who don’t want to schedule family time around dual careers, piano lessons and soccer practices. They just want more time with their kids.

Kelly Erickson was at a park eating lunch with her 3-year-old when a herd of school-aged kids stormed the play area. It was a school day, and she wondered where the children came from.

Homeschoolers, a friend said.

“Freaks,” Erickson thought. “I just had it in my head that homeschoolers were women who make their own clothes and were out of the cultural norm.”

Erickson, on the other hand, was a corporate sales representative, her husband was a Delta Air Lines pilot. They skied at Steamboat Springs, paid cash for a new SUV and thought nothing of dropping $400 on a leather Coach briefcase.

After their infant daughter Abby almost died from a strep infection , the Ericksons rethought their priorities. Kelly Erickson resolved to spend more time being a mom to Abby and older sister Kimberly. She quit work.

Now, she had time to volunteer at Trinity Elementary in southwest Pasco County. Now, she could stop to notice how bored Kimberly looked in class. Now, she could pore over Kimberly’s writing assignments - and wonder how so many misspellings could earn a good grade.

What to do?

Four years after her brush with homeschooling “freaks,” Kelly Erickson, now 38, decided homeschooling offered exactly what she and Doug, 39, were looking for: the possibility of a better education for their kids, and more time with them to boot.

With a few clicks of a computer mouse, Kelly Erickson plunged into homeschooling. As her children napped, she crept into the family’s home office, took out her American Express card and began buying.

Math curriculum from eBay. Spelling from Amazon.com. Grammar lessons from RainbowResource.com.

Homeschooling used to be a solitary endeavor. With no outside support, parents faced daunting practical questions: Where do I get a science textbook? Can I really teach eighth-grade math?

But homeschooling has evolved into a remarkably communal activity, conducted via the Internet, the public schools and an elaborate system of community and commercial programs. Example: each month more than 600 homeschool kids take classes at Tampa’s Museum of Science and Industry.

The number of homeschooled students in Florida has jumped from 22,200 a decade ago to about 51,100.

Vouchers get a lot of attention, but homeschooled students outnumber Florida’s voucher-educated almost 2-to-1 . . .(snip)

Generation X mothers (ages 26 to 40, by some definitions) are more likely to stay at home with their children than their Baby Boomer predecessors, according to a 2004 study by Reach Advisors, which sells marketing advice.

While Baby Boomers sought to “have it all” through work, family and possessions, Generation Xers are increasingly likely to forgo a second income, it said. “Instead of trying to fit family into their work life,” the study concluded, “Generation X parents are more likely to try to fit work into their family life.” Homeschooling is a way to do just that . . .

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Re: Homeschooling: It’s not what you think…thats so true…
I in general do not approve of home schooling…but I do realize in certain situations it is preferable.

I like public school…the teachers …most of them were terrific…
Of course I like catholic school .
Children learn more than just academic things there is so much more …getting along with others who are different …etc

I read about the concerns of parents who homeschool…hey, I understand…but why don’t you take back the public school…you pay taxes…its your school…get involved…demonstrate if you have to…go to the parent/teacher meetings…go to school board meetings…believe me a bunch of parents soon bring things around.
We in our county are lucky…we have some good schools…not perfect…but good solid schools…and the parents are there to see to it…teachers appreciate it…We apprecitate our teachers too.
 
I am not anti-homeschooling…if I lived in a large city without access to parochial schools I would probably homeschool.

I have recently seen a flip side however.
I have seen examples where parents choose to “homeschool” because they were afraid if they sent them into a regular school they would get reported for neglect/abuse/.
One set of parents “homeschooled” because they were running a meth lab and didn’t want their kids sharing information with friends at school.

So…there is a side to “homeschooling” that isn’t really homeschooling at all…but kids trapped at home, not receiving ANY education, and being hurt in the process.
 
Yeah. We know. Nobody is “really” anti-homeschooling, they just have nothing to add but negative stories.

I should have simply posted the list of union teacher objections to homeschooling under the article.

We read the same stuff over and over.

Not socialized. Abusive parents homeschool.

As if abusive parents don’t send their kids to government schools. And if teachers at those schools don’t abuse kids themselves (do a google news search on “teacher arrested”, it’s a shocker).

As if kids are socialized at all in government schools. Sitting with the same age group, usually the same kids year after year in boring classrooms being taught most often by teachers who never worked in the real world for any length of time and getting day after day of PC indoctrination socializes kids great.
 
It seems to me homeschooling would be better because the student to teacher ratio seems rather favorable. By having few students the parent/teacher can customize the program much more to the students needs.

A school might be able to have more resources on hand than in a homeschool, since they can pool the cost. On the other hand it will be much more easy for homeschool to do things like go on field trips since they don’t have as many logistical problems. One may give up some of the resources, but one should be able to make the field trips more effective. Resouces could probably be used more effective, too because you have one person spending more time showing the student how to use them.

Also a parent can have more control of the underlining philosphy of what is learned. You can make sure what is being taught is in accord to what your values and principles are. Although one bad thing is that eventually those students will need to know the views of others and how they are the same and differ, since they will have to deal with others.

As far as socialization, what you lose by not being in the class room, one can probably make up by not getting influenced by the unruly kids in class and having a lot of good interaction with an adult. Plus there are other places where kids can interact with others their age.

The biggest problem with homeschooling is the it is expensive and hard. The parent that homeschool has to take that time and take it away from other things the parent could be doing. Plus it seems a huge task. But one should put their investments in things that they think are valuable. If you got the ability to do it, what could be better than being with your children so much and giving them a customized education.
 
I don’t know what assumptions you are making about me David Paul…At one time I homeschooled one of my sons as he was recovering from a serious head injury.
It was a positive experience for both of us.

I have previously posted positive comments on the forum regarding homeschooling, and if you got the impression I was shooting down the homeschool movement - I apologize. That was not my intention.

In this past school year it has come to the attention of local law authorities and school officials that some parents are declaring to the school districts they are “homeschooling” their children, when really they are not.
The children are not receiving instruction. In some cases it is an issue of neglect - in some disturbing cases the children are living in squalor surrounded by a meth lab (an increasing threat in our local area)

While many advocates for the homeschooling movement suggest they shouldn’t have to report to any government or educational authorities on the progress of their children…I am beginning to question the wisdom of that position considering some of these sad cases of children trapped in such unfortunate situations.
Pretending this doesn’t happen doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

I’m wondering what people here think should be done - or not done- to aid children in such a situation.

(BTW - I’m not a member of the NEA, nor am I a public school teacher 😃 )
 
While many advocates for the homeschooling movement suggest they shouldn’t have to report to any government or educational authorities on the progress of their children…I am beginning to question the wisdom of that position considering some of these sad cases of children trapped in such unfortunate situations.
And there are no public school children caught in abusive home situations? It’s only homeschool kids?
 
Yeah. We know. Nobody is “really” anti-homeschooling, they just have nothing to add but negative stories.

I noticed. As for the horror stories public schools have them as well:Columbine, Mary Kay Letourneau, and this person: Michael Garrison is accused of selling assault rifles to felons knowing the guns would be used to commit crimes, according to a federal indictment. Garrison teaches at Madie Ives Elementary School in North Miami Beach, according to the school district’s website.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-0623guns,0,7343808.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines

As for “socialization” maybe they can learn to roll a joint with zig zag paper, or how to put a condom on a banana, OR how to be cruel to the “different” kids.
 
I have seen examples where parents choose to “homeschool” because they were afraid if they sent them into a regular school they would get reported for neglect/abuse/.
this argument won’t work. it is like defending homo-marriages based on the fact that many normal marriages end in divorse or child abuse and not weather their is inheirently anything good or bad about it.
 
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Lilyofthevalley:
I noticed. As for the horror stories public schools have them as well . . .
Depressing isn’t it? Here is finally a postive article in the MSM on home schooling. In Florida, public schools and home schoolers are working together to education kids. Wonderful! Public schools are not attacked.

Those who think theycan stop home schooling by denigrating the practice should realize the debate is over. Home schooling is here to stay and it is growing. The only question is when the unions and liberal activists groups will start thinking of kids, begin advocating partnerships rather than trying to have it all their own way.

They should also realize internet news searches allow individuals to find patterns the MSM does not or rarely reports. People want to demean the Catholic church or home schoolers by citing bad examples? Others can play that game too. And (I’m being fair here) because there are so many more employees of government schools than priests or bad home school situations we can find a lot more examples of abuse. A few from this month:

Teacher arrested for cocaine possession
WNYT, NY - Jun 23, 2005

Conroe ISD teacher indicted on 14 counts involving contact with children
Conroe Courier, TX - Jun 23, 2005

High School teacher Arrested for Rape
LongIslandPress.com, NY - Jun 22, 2005

Teacher Arrested, Accused Of Trying To Stab Husband
WFtv.com, FL - Jun 21, 2005

Santa Ana music teacher arrested for allegedly fondling students
San Jose Mercury News, CA - Jun 15, 2005

Hannah Penn teacher arrested for indecent assualt
York Daily Record, PA - Jun 10, 2005

South Valley Teacher Arrested For Theft
KFSN, CA - Jun 10, 2005

Bethel teacher arrested for child molestation
KING5.com (subscription), WA - Jun 6, 2005

Vegas junior high teacher arrested for luring students for sex
KRNV, NV - Jun 6, 2005

Mohawk teacher arrested on sex abuse charges
The Register-Guard, Oregon - Jun 2, 2005

Teacher arrested for bomb threats
Capital News 9, NY - Jun 2, 2005

3rd Grade Teacher Arrested on Sex-Exploitation Charges
Brush News Tribune, CO - Jun 1, 2005

Quite a diverse group of alledged criminals we have teaching in public schools, isn’t it? We’re in the slow season for this type of stuff too. Searches done Nov-April bring up many more instances per month.

Lorarose…I aplogize for unjustly lumping you in with what I see so often in NEA talking points posted on other forums. Should have checked your posts. My little rant above is not directed at you.

Because of experiences as a student and years later a close brush with serious financial loss at the hands of the unions, I get a little too emotional :whacky: about this subject at times . . .
 
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David_Paul:
Depressing isn’t it? Here is finally a postive article in the MSM on home schooling. In Florida, public schools and home schoolers are working together to education kids. Wonderful! Public schools are not attacked.

Those who think theycan stop home schooling by denigrating the practice should realize the debate is over. Home schooling is here to stay and it is growing. The only question is when the unions and liberal activists groups will start thinking of kids, begin advocating partnerships rather than trying to have it all their own way.

They should also realize internet news searches allow individuals to find patterns the MSM does not or rarely reports. People want to demean the Catholic church or home schoolers by citing bad examples? Others can play that game too. And (I’m being fair here) because there are so many more employees of government schools than priests or bad home school situations we can find a lot more examples of abuse. A few from this month:

Teacher arrested for cocaine possession
WNYT, NY - Jun 23, 2005

Conroe ISD teacher indicted on 14 counts involving contact with children
Conroe Courier, TX - Jun 23, 2005

High School teacher Arrested for Rape
LongIslandPress.com, NY - Jun 22, 2005

Teacher Arrested, Accused Of Trying To Stab Husband
WFtv.com, FL - Jun 21, 2005

Santa Ana music teacher arrested for allegedly fondling students
San Jose Mercury News, CA - Jun 15, 2005

Hannah Penn teacher arrested for indecent assualt
York Daily Record, PA - Jun 10, 2005

South Valley Teacher Arrested For Theft
KFSN, CA - Jun 10, 2005

Bethel teacher arrested for child molestation
KING5.com (subscription), WA - Jun 6, 2005

Vegas junior high teacher arrested for luring students for sex
KRNV, NV - Jun 6, 2005

Mohawk teacher arrested on sex abuse charges
The Register-Guard, Oregon - Jun 2, 2005

Teacher arrested for bomb threats
Capital News 9, NY - Jun 2, 2005

3rd Grade Teacher Arrested on Sex-Exploitation Charges
Brush News Tribune, CO - Jun 1, 2005

Quite a diverse group of alledged criminals we have teaching in public schools, isn’t it? We’re in the slow season for this type of stuff too. Searches done Nov-April bring up many more instances per month.

Lorarose…I aplogize for unjustly lumping you in with what I see so often in NEA talking points posted on other forums. Should have checked your posts. My little rant above is not directed at you.

Because of experiences as a student and years later a close brush with serious financial loss at the hands of the unions, I get a little too emotional :whacky: about this subject at times . . .
So to whom are directing this to? Looks like your being a bit defensive…i thought it was to be a discussion…

whatever … 👋
 
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David_Paul:
.They should also realize internet news searches allow individuals to find patterns the MSM does not or rarely reports. People want to demean the Catholic church or home schoolers by citing bad examples? Others can play that game too. And (I’m being fair here) because there are so many more employees of government schools than priests or bad home school situations we can find a lot more examples of abuse.
In a discussion, it works better to defend and advocate for your own position rather than posting, in this case, the ills of your imaginary opponent. Homeschooling is fine and so are private schools, as long as there is some sort of criteria. And union membership could not care less that parents may choose non-public schools; many send their own children to private schools.

Be careful with the stone-throwing. I lived in Florida when the local principal of a religious private school took very young girls on an unchaperoned trip to Disneyworld and was later caught with many pictures of them in hotel rooms in their bathing suits. Lots of closets, lots of skeletons.
 
Fine folks have it your way…I thought this was a discussion, but I was wrong.
 
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Lorarose:
Fine folks have it your way…I thought this was a discussion, but I was wrong.
Lorarose,

I have to agree with your frustration. It seems everytime there is a homeschool/public school/private school thread, it turns in to some huge “Us” against “Them” stonethrowing type situation.

I have done all 3 of the above education “choices” with my children. There are pros/cons to ALL of them. It seems whenever I point this out or offer my experiences and why I feel the way I do, my post is ignored or I’m attacked for my opinion.

I talked to a Baptist mom recently with 6 children. She has homeschooled all of them so far. Next year, she plans on sending them to a Baptist school. I asked her if there were a lot of former homeschooled kids there, she replied there were a few. Then, she said, “we all work together in our church, no matter where the kids go to school (home/private/public)–what’s important is they have have a good, supportive environment at home/church regarding their faith”. Wow!!! How true. I hope we Catholics get to that point some day.
 
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aimee:
So to whom are directing this to? Looks like your being a bit defensive…i thought it was to be a discussion…

whatever … 👋
Defensive? About what? A poster said she is not the NEA flack her comments led to me believe. So I apologized . I take people at their word.

I’m certainly not defensive regarding my postion on the NEA. The organization is evil.

Don’t take my word for it. Read their own words here.

Anti-freedom in education. Pro-abortion. Pro-gay agenda. Anti-religion.

The union lobbys for public education to begin at birth.

Even North Korea allows a couple to keep a child a year before the state takes over.
 
Is there room here to ask a question? Where could someone fins out more info. regarding homeschooling and if it is ok to homeschool in their state??
 
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Lorarose:
While many advocates for the homeschooling movement suggest they shouldn’t have to report to any government or educational authorities on the progress of their children…I am beginning to question the wisdom of that position considering some of these sad cases of children trapped in such unfortunate situations.
Pretending this doesn’t happen doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

I’m wondering what people here think should be done - or not done- to aid children in such a situation.

(BTW - I’m not a member of the NEA, nor am I a public school teacher 😃 )
First the issue of these kids in an abusive situation. What we should do is be vigilant against child abuse. What we should not do is to require all children to attend a government run or government inspected school in order to end child abuse. Public school teachers have turned in some child abusers. So have doctors, neighbors and relatives. You could put every kid in America in public school and not end child abuse.

As for reporting progress to the government on the progress of thier children, this is a bit backward. The schools act in loco parentis, only if, and to the extent that, the real parents chose to let them. If the school choses to let a public or private school educate their children, then the school owes reporting back to the parents. However, if the parents do not chose to turn over some or all of their own responsibility to educate the children to the school, why should they owe the school or government anything? If the parents are asking the government to certify thier child’s education or to provide some kind of transcript, then they should report information to the school.

We, as parents, have a responisbilty to educate our children in the same way we have a responsibilty to give them nutritious food to eat. Demanding that parents who chose to educate their children themselves “report” on that effort to a govenment entity is like saying that parents need to submit a report to the government of what we are feeding our children. And it is much more likely that a child attending public school is being malnurished at home than it is that a homeschooled child is being deprived of a good education.

BTW: I am not a homeschooler, my children are in Catholic school. I do, however, supplement extensively at home.
 
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Karin:
Is there room here to ask a question? Where could someone fins out more info. regarding homeschooling and if it is ok to homeschool in their state??
I believe it is now legal in all states. Some states have fewer restrictions than others. Lots of info here:

HSLDA-Home School Legal Defense Association:
Getting Started : In Your State (Laws, Legislation,
News, Groups) : Homeschool
News : Legal Representation : Research : Speakers
: Much much more…
www.hslda.org/ - 68k - Jun 25, 2005 -
 
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Lilyofthevalley:
Yeah. We know. Nobody is “really” anti-homeschooling, they just have nothing to add but negative stories.

I noticed. As for the horror stories public schools have them as well:Columbine, Mary Kay Letourneau, and this person: Michael Garrison is accused of selling assault rifles to felons knowing the guns would be used to commit crimes, according to a federal indictment. Garrison teaches at Madie Ives Elementary School in North Miami Beach, according to the school district’s website.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-0623guns,0,7343808.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines

As for “socialization” maybe they can learn to roll a joint with zig zag paper, or how to put a condom on a banana, OR how to be cruel to the “different” kids.
Thank you, exactly! So many parents are incredibly naive when it comes to what is going on in the school systems, but then pass judgement on those who homeschool.
 
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