I think you are missing the point. Let’s take the Hollywood ‘body’ for example. It has become fractured because individuals within the ‘body’ have abused their positions with others in the ‘body’. Lack of respect for others (immorality) within a ‘body’ causes the ‘body’ to fall apart. Immorality ‘outside the body’ has led to the ‘body’s’ reputation suffering. Immorality inside and outside the ‘body’ is causing the Hollywood ‘body’ to fall apart.In this case, what she said is correct. It’s not about many people in that context.
Authority? None is needed. He can reject what is respectfully put to him. I’ve not asserted anyone in particular is wayward. My remarks are “general”.Parishioners have no authority to correct the parish priest.
No not at all. I don’t know of any Church document that indicates it should be taken symbolically. Paul here is talking about actual sexual immorality among the Corinthians. He’s talking about their actual bodies and activities related to fornication, sodomy, prostitution, etc.I always thought that ‘body’ here was a ‘body of people’ or community or church which is akin to a ‘temple’ and must retain cohesion. I’ve never thought of it as being about a single human body. In the current climate maybe my interpretation might be more appropriate?
See what I said in 132…No not at all. I don’t know of any Church document that indicates it should be taken symbolically. Paul here is talking about actual sexual immorality among the Corinthians. He’s talking about their actual bodies and activities related to fornication, sodomy, prostitution, etc.
Could you record it and post, please?Any other thoughts?
The answer is very simple: the Bishop…or the priest to whom the Bishop delegates this, such as the Vicar General, the Vicar for Clergy, etc. As I said above, those of us who have filled such positions welcome the laity who inform us that a priest has has acted in a way that the Bishop would not approve.Who is to judge whether the priest is wayward? The laity, or the Bishop who actually has the authority over said priest? Parishioners have no authority to correct the parish priest. Praying for the priest is a proper first response in matters of how the parish “ought to” be run.
Indeed. Honestly, the people of the parish hurt themselves more than the priest when they do this. I’ve never understood that mentality either.I have NO USE for people who vote with their dollars in church.
That’s so unkind, and such a knee-jerk reaction.
The staff, the poor, and the Diocese suffer when we don’t support ministry.
I see.His announcement used fornication, masturbation, and many other “loaded words”, and said that he will not be “soft” in his language.
I would prefer the OP not share a recording with the forum. I think that would be bad form. Cillade may give us the highlights, but sharing a recording is not necessary. The person to share that with would be the appropriate person at the diocesan office.Could you record it and post, please?
That seems rather inappropriate. That is playing gotcha. That is assuming an adversarial position.Could you record it and post, please?
It is sad when a presbyterate confronts such a situation.I will say that we have a young priest in my Diocese who sounds similar to your priest. Uber traditional and extremely rigid. He caused so many problems at his first assignment as a parochial vicar that he was removed from public ministry. After some time our Bishop reinstated limited faculties for him but he is still restricted from certain things.
If your priest is causing this much of a disruption in your parish then you may want to speak with the vicar for priests or the vicar general.