In the human race, some are born to hate and sin. I understand this, but why cant those of us, heterosexual or homosexual, just agree that love is love? Love is love no mater what shape or form. For me, I believe that whatever kind of sexuality is right. I would never degrade someones opinion on this, though. If you’re not a supporter of gay rights and homosexuality then why read things on it? Just to be rude and try to force someone who is uncomfortable into heterosexuality? Why cant people accept that what you say wont more than likely change someones firm opinions on something?
Not sure what you’re trying to say here (e.g., “I believe that whatever kind of sexuality is right” is pretty much a sentence fragment). But if you’re asking why people who are anti-homosexuality would read threads on Catholic Answers that aren’t anti-homoesxuality, well, why shouldn’t they? You have a duty in charity to chastise sinners and remind people of their obligation.
I was in a same-sex relationship for a long time. Please believe me, it is not the same as an opposite-sex relationship. You cannot judge it unless you have done it- please consider that without personal knowledge of the inner experience of homosexuality, you cannot know that it is actually love and not something disordered and harmful.
It’s true, love is love- and the Church teaches that the sacrificial, platonic love between two people in a same-sex relationship is valid and real (in the sense of friendship)- but that the sexual element of these relationships are not rooted in love. In our culture we are taught that love is synonymous with sexual desire- in fact sexual desire is far inferior to, and only points to, true sacrificial love.
Seeking sex with another person like oneself springs from a difficulty in loving and respecting oneself. It is an attempt to fill a void created by that difficulty.
There is no mystery in it- neither party is really and completely giving the self to the other- but only seeking to find the self.
Please prayerfully consider this with an open mind.
Interesting you mention this. “Love,” properly considered, is the ordering of one’s will toward another’s good. It thus requires a desire that the beloved live up to the excellence of their own nature, i.e., by avoiding sin. Perhaps what homosexuals mean when they insist that “love is love” is rather something like mere “affection,” which of course is not an unqualified good.
I have heard the “homosexuality as narcissism” argument before. Not sure what to think of it. My mind is not really set up to process Platonic/Augustinian kinds of arguments. It’s enough for me that natural law forbids sexual perversion.
I can’t help but to think how much help posts like this are to the pro-gay agenda. Wouldn’t it be better to speak respectfully?
If we cannot present the truth in love, no one can come to see the truth.
Well, if they did not have fellows like him to point to, I am confident they would invent someone like him.
In a situation like that wouldn’t it be perfectly reasonable for them to be able to designate the other as a “spouse” so that if one worked the other could get health care benefits or the other gets survivor’s benefits?
Reasonable? As in beneficial? Maybe. But good? No.
A spouse is a woman’s husband or a man’s wife. A spouse gets benefits because they are necessary for the spouse to discharge his/her duty to his/her family.
And I’ve mentioned this before, but I’ll mention it again. I really, really love my German Shepherd. He is the best dog in the world. Must I have sex with him?
Man-animal rights, man. Their love is just as valid as anyone else’s. Who are you to deny their equal rights? Human dignity demands equal treatment somehow. etc. etc.
lol.
…perhaps your loving approach is a result of the same sex relationship you were in?
After 50 years of experiencing the diminishing of our Church over these sexual perversions I prefer a more direct approach. Enough is enough!
The uncivilized barbarians have taken advantage of decent folks tolerance.
The key strategy of the gay agenda is to constantly work it into every part of our daily life so that the public becomes immune to it. Do you really think these constantly recurring gay/homo topics are seriously random and from the heart?
It’s time to start telling it like it is before we all suffer Gods wrath for becoming a heathen ba’al worshiping perverted pagan Nation. Good heavens, abortion is just modern day child sacrifice when you think it through…and how barbaric is that?
Well, you’ve got a point, insofar as there are at least some saints (e.g., Louis IX) who were explicit in their policy to kill any blasphemer they encountered. Indeed this was the policy for much of Christendom. They seem to have been markedly better off in a number of important ways for it.
On the other hand, personal vitriol is a dangerous habit and attitude to cultivate. I respond occasionally with a harsh word to deserving fools (and usually get warned for it), but you have to be extra-careful to avoid getting
too nasty for the sake of your own soul.
Friendship in the modern world has become quite shallow; love in the modern world has become too broad and too narrow, loving ice cream for example is only possible if love simply means like and when you say you love a person people assume you mean it in a sexual sense or are using hyperbole.
Very important, and very true. (Liberal) modernity has endeavored to destroy all that makes life valuable and meaningful. We shouldn’t be surprised about this – that was its intention from the beginning, and it has never shied from saying it.
