Homosexuality in family

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This is a hot topic. Not sure if this had been asked before here but what do you do if a close family member comes out gay and invites your family to their so called wedding?

The other members of your family go along with this. This puts you in a position where you might lose your family in terms of them ignoring you. Can you attend and sit way in back praying rosary With your wife and kids? This is very tricky. How to explain it to kids?
How about going to the gay wedding and pray as a family in back of hall for their conversion.
 
jp54321 said:
This is a hot topic. Not sure if this had been asked before here but what do you do if a close family member comes out gay and invites your family to their so called wedding?

The other members of your family go along with this. This puts you in a position where you might lose your family in terms of them ignoring you. Can you attend and sit way in back praying rosary With your wife and kids? This is very tricky. How to explain it to kids?
How about going to the gay wedding and pray as a family in back of hall for their conversion.
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Well I actually have a gay cousin who I love very much.
I am not married and have no kids so I would be there with my parents.
As for explaining it to kids idk how I would as I said I have no kids.

Why would I be praying for their Conversion? My cousin was raised Catholic just like me and I think he still is today as he has attended church things with the whole family.

I would go because I love him as a family member and he was my best friend as a kid and taught me so much. He has also done well with his job so far and I look up to him a lot now still.

A strong family sticks together to the bitter end I think and that’s what I intend on doing.
 
jp54321 said:
This is a hot topic. Not sure if this had been asked before here but what do you do if a close family member comes out gay and invites your family to their so called wedding?

The other members of your family go along with this. This puts you in a position where you might lose your family in terms of them ignoring you. Can you attend and sit way in back praying rosary With your wife and kids? This is very tricky. How to explain it to kids?
How about going to the gay wedding and pray as a family in back of hall for their conversion.
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You’re going to have to make up your own mind about this, but me, I’d go.

There are gay people in my family. People I love and care for. I’ve known their partners for years, decades, in some cases. When they chose to take advantage of the legal status now available to them, I went to the ceremonies. I have an absolutely clear conscience about this.

I sure wouldn’t go and sit in the back praying my rosary. That would be pretty confrontational. Better to stay away, I think. It would be perceived (rightly? Only you know) as a protest, like praying outside an abortion clinic. Also, it would be downright rude.

You don’t have to endorse same-sex marriage to care about people in your family who are gay. Or even to attend the ceremony.
 
You cannot go to gay “weddings”. No matter what your family will do to you, you must decline the invitation.
 
This was a situation I was in a few years ago when my cousin’s daughter had a “commitment ceremony” with her “partner”. I did not go; in fact, when I received the invitation, I returned it with a note: “Please don’t go through with this. You are putting your soul in danger”.

It is a sin to do anything that would show support for a sinful action.
 
Honestly i would fake being sick or something. I generally don’t like to attend weddings, of all kinds
 
9 Ways to be an Accessory to Another’s Sin

I. By counsel
II. By command
III. By consent
IV. By provocation
V. By praise or flattery
VI. By concealment
VII. By partaking
VIII. By silence
IX. By defense of the ill done
 
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SilverLight said:
I would go because I love him as a family member and he was my best friend as a kid and taught me so much. He has also done well with his job so far and I look up to him a lot now still.

A strong family sticks together to the bitter end I think and that’s what I intend on doing.
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Inisfallen said:
There are gay people in my family. People I love and care for. I’ve known their partners for years, decades, in some cases. When they chose to take advantage of the legal status now available to them, I went to the ceremonies. I have an absolutely clear conscience about this.

You don’t have to endorse same-sex marriage to care about people in your family who are gay. Or even to attend the ceremony.
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CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH

CONSIDERATIONS REGARDING PROPOSALS TO GIVE LEGAL RECOGNITION TO UNIONS BETWEEN HOMOSEXUAL PERSONS - Vatican.va document

vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20030731_homosexual-unions_en.html

II. POSITIONS ON THE PROBLEM
OF HOMOSEXUAL UNIONS
In those situations where homosexual unions have been legally recognized or have been given the legal status and rights belonging to marriage, clear and emphatic opposition is a duty. One must refrain from any kind of formal cooperation in the enactment or application of such gravely unjust laws and, as far as possible, from material cooperation on the level of their application. In this area, everyone can exercise the right to conscientious objection.

III. ARGUMENTS FROM REASON AGAINST LEGAL
RECOGNITION OF HOMOSEXUAL UNIONS
6. To understand why it is necessary to oppose legal recognition of homosexual unions, ethical considerations of different orders need to be taken into consideration…(Click the link above to read more.

Read the rest for yourself. It would be inefficient on my part to quote the entire document.
roseofshannon said:
9 Ways to be an Accessory to Another’s Sin

I. By counsel
II. By command
III. By consent
IV. By provocation
V. By praise or flattery
VI. By concealment
VII. By partaking
VIII. By silence
IX. By defense of the ill done
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:mad: Special mention to III, VII, and VIII.
 
Do what you think you should, but don’t go to pray in the back of the hall! It would be incredibly rude, and you wouldn’t exactly show yourself or your faith in the best light. It won’t strengthen family relationships either.

Lou
 
Faxero said:
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CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH

CONSIDERATIONS REGARDING PROPOSALS TO GIVE LEGAL RECOGNITION TO UNIONS BETWEEN HOMOSEXUAL PERSONS - Vatican.va document

vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20030731_homosexual-unions_en.html

II. POSITIONS ON THE PROBLEM
OF HOMOSEXUAL UNIONS
In those situations where homosexual unions have been legally recognized or have been given the legal status and rights belonging to marriage, clear and emphatic opposition is a duty. One must refrain from any kind of formal cooperation in the enactment or application of such gravely unjust laws and, as far as possible, from material cooperation on the level of their application. In this area, everyone can exercise the right to conscientious objection.

III. ARGUMENTS FROM REASON AGAINST LEGAL
RECOGNITION OF HOMOSEXUAL UNIONS
6. To understand why it is necessary to oppose legal recognition of homosexual unions, ethical considerations of different orders need to be taken into consideration…(Click the link above to read more.
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I would second this. It’s your duty as a Catholic to make clear that you believe this to be immoral. You don’t have to fall out with family. Just explain that you cannot, in good conscience, celebrate an act that you consider to be immoral. You don’t help the souls of those involved by staying quiet.
 
jp54321 said:
This is a hot topic. Not sure if this had been asked before here but what do you do if a close family member comes out gay and invites your family to their so called wedding?

The other members of your family go along with this. This puts you in a position where you might lose your family in terms of them ignoring you. Can you attend and sit way in back praying rosary With your wife and kids? This is very tricky. How to explain it to kids?
How about going to the gay wedding and pray as a family in back of hall for their conversion.
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I would consider it an insult to me and my religion if I received an invitation to such an event. The relative would be aware of your position and should not cause embarrassment by inviting you.
However, it they do I would ring them and explain that although you appreciate their invitation and you love them, you cannot in truth to yourself go to the ceremony. I would invite him and his partner to your home to show that you love him but cannot support his lifestyle. Some might think that inviting him to your home shows acceptance, but Jesus dined with some whose lifestyle He could not agree with, in order to show love.
 
Petaro said:
I would invite him and his partner to your home to show that you love him but cannot support his lifestyle. Some might think that inviting him to your home shows acceptance, but Jesus dined with some whose lifestyle He could not agree with, in order to show love.
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Really? And if you had children, what would you say to them when they see the couple in your home? Would there be any guidelines given to the couple about how close they could sit to each other or what types of body language might not be permitted?

An even more interesting question is whether the couple would be invited to other major family events such as weddings, or how they would be received at funerals.
 
A year ago, i was in this situation. Sent my regrets. I was not going to endanger MY soul by giving my blessing to a fake marriage.
 
1neophyte said:
Really? And if you had children, what would you say to them when they see the couple in your home? Would there be any guidelines given to the couple about how close they could sit to each other or what types of body language might not be permitted?

An even more interesting question is whether the couple would be invited to other major family events such as weddings, or how they would be received at funerals.
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I would just use the same decorum list I get all guests to sign at the door. Outlines taboo subjects for discussion; appropriate seating arrangements; shoes off on the cork tiles; etc the same as everyone. We have an ancilliary page on discretionary issues for people of colour, jewish persuasion and of course those not quite right.

The question of funerals is a very gray area. If it is theirs then it is appropriate to attend as many people who have failed to show any interest or care of a relative have been found in the front pews at many a funeral. There may also be cake.If it was mine, I would appreciate any number that might even resemble a crowd. That is why I will have free beer highlighted in the funeral notice.
Weddings are another story. I invited most of Perth as they would have to send presents in spite of the 4,300 km trip across Australia. So if there were presents I have no trouble being inclusive. I even had some of my wife’s relatives there in the same hope. Aren’t wedding registries just the bees’ knees?

Sometimes it is hard to leave the front of the Temple and lower one’s self to the pews of the sinners, but I feel it does us all good every once in a while. Humility may be an insult to truth, but it allows us to be unctuous and feel good about ourselves all at the same time.
 
Petaro said:
I would just use the same decorum list I get all guests to sign at the door. Outlines taboo subjects for discussion; appropriate seating arrangements; shoes off on the cork tiles; etc the same as everyone. We have an ancilliary page on discretionary issues for people of colour, jewish persuasion and of course those not quite right.

The question of funerals is a very gray area. If it is theirs then it is appropriate to attend as many people who have failed to show any interest or care of a relative have been found in the front pews at many a funeral. There may also be cake.If it was mine, I would appreciate any number that might even resemble a crowd. That is why I will have free beer highlighted in the funeral notice.
Weddings are another story. I invited most of Perth as they would have to send presents in spite of the 4,300 km trip across Australia. So if there were presents I have no trouble being inclusive. I even had some of my wife’s relatives there in the same hope. Aren’t wedding registries just the bees’ knees?

Sometimes it is hard to leave the front of the Temple and lower one’s self to the pews of the sinners, but I feel it does us all good every once in a while. Humility may be an insult to truth, but it allows us to be unctuous and feel good about ourselves all at the same time.
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:D:D:D You just made my day!
 
When I feel like I can’t go to a wedding or other celebration for moral reasons, I just decline the invitation the same way I would decline for any other reason.

More explanation might be needed if it were a sibling, for instance, but for most relations, “Sorry, I can’t make it,” on the RSVP card should be enough. I definitely don’t recommend writing an essay on the back of the card as to why you’re declining.

If someone were to come to me and ask why I declined their invitation, I might gently state my reasons.
 
Faxero said:
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CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH

CONSIDERATIONS REGARDING PROPOSALS TO GIVE LEGAL RECOGNITION TO UNIONS BETWEEN HOMOSEXUAL PERSONS - Vatican.va document

vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20030731_homosexual-unions_en.html

II. POSITIONS ON THE PROBLEM
OF HOMOSEXUAL UNIONS
In those situations where homosexual unions have been legally recognized or have been given the legal status and rights belonging to marriage, clear and emphatic opposition is a duty. One must refrain from any kind of formal cooperation in the enactment or application of such gravely unjust laws and, as far as possible, from material cooperation on the level of their application. In this area, everyone can exercise the right to conscientious objection.

III. ARGUMENTS FROM REASON AGAINST LEGAL
RECOGNITION OF HOMOSEXUAL UNIONS
6. To understand why it is necessary to oppose legal recognition of homosexual unions, ethical considerations of different orders need to be taken into consideration…(Click the link above to read more.

Read the rest for yourself. It would be inefficient on my part to quote the entire document.

:mad: Special mention to III, VII, and VIII.
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Hey do what you want I’m not the boss of you or anyone.
 
jediliz said:
A year ago, i was in this situation. Sent my regrets. I was not going to endanger MY soul by giving my blessing to a fake marriage.
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Would you go to a wedding that you knew would end in divorce?
 
SilverLight said:
Would you go to a wedding that you knew would end in divorce?
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You can’t know that ahead of time. 🤷

It’s not morally wrong to refuse to attend a wedding. You can for whatever reason you want, and don’t even have to disclose the reason to the inviting party.
 
Michelle Arnold of Catholic Answers has posted a piece on this that I’d highly recommend.
She starts out this way: *When people find out how long I’ve been with Catholic Answers, they sometimes ask, “What is the most-asked question you receive?” That’s easy: Can I go to this wedding?
*
catholic.com/blog/michelle-arnold/to-attend-or-not-to-attend

Of same-sex ceremonies, she says this:
In the case of same-sex partners, the Church has spoken so strongly against “same-sex marriage” that I cannot recommend attending or celebrating “same-sex weddings” under any circumstances.

(The link to “the Church has spoken so strongly against ‘same sex marriage’” was to the 2003 statement by the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, already cited by Faxero, above.)
 
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