House Approves U.S.-Mexican Border Fence

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They nroke the law in comming over the border… that makes them criminals.

Our borders should’ve been made more secure YEARS ago.

Ppl who bring out the race card… about this issue… are just plain wrong.
What a waste of money…Because of criminals?Not all immigrants are criminals.Because of terrorism?Terrorists never crossed the border with Mexico,they came with visas…But what can I expect from some racists who blame immigrants,specially Hispanics, for the problems of the country.Timothy McVeigh was an American citizen and I consider him one of the worst criminals in history.So,not every criminal is immigrant…Think about it.

Aleks.
 
They nroke the law in comming over the border… that makes them criminals

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Please stop with the misinformation. Crossing the border wiithout permission violates a Civil Code not a Criminal Code. Hence, it is incorrect to refer to that action as “criminal”.
Our borders should’ve been made more secure YEARS ago.

Ppl who bring out the race card… about this issue… are just plain wrong.
Don’t look now but we’re the one’s who failed to bring in the “legal” workers to meet our labor needs.
 
Crossing the borde of a country is a criminal offense… look at what Mexcio does to its illegals. So stop with the misinformation.

‘Failed’ to bring in legal workers… please. Thats just a steaming pile of horse puckey.
Please stop with the misinformation. Crossing the border wiithout permission violates a Civil Code not a Criminal Code. Hence, it is incorrect to refer to that action as “criminal”.

Don’t look now but we’re the one’s who failed to bring in the “legal” workers to meet our labor needs.
 
I didn’t make one dime off of there labor.

Yes its thier fault that we have to close hospitals because they get care and don’t pay. Yes its thier fault we have to pay for thier kids education and school lunches. Not to mention all the money that is spent on law enforcement on them.

They broke the law to get here… they continue to break the law by staying here. They are criminals.
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Sorry but you’re simply wrong! Crossing the border “illegally” in and of itself is not “CRIMINAL”. To return somebody at the border is largely a routine function. That can’t happen in a Criminal case. A criminal case requires a trial, fine and/or incarceration. To criminalize border crossing is still one of the issues under consideration.

Well, bringing in the necessary manpower is one of the major functions of our Immigration policy. Who closed the door on these people? We did. Who looked the other way and did not adjust the quotas accordingly? We did. Who needed more workers? We did. Who gave them work? We did. Who profited by their labor? We did. But, it’s all their fault?
 
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It’s plain to see that you don’t understand the economics involved. Of course you profited from their work. We all have in one way or another. If you consume produce, meat or poulty, eat out at a restaurant, you’ve benefited by the lower wages paid them. Those products are therefore cheaper. You don’t have to believe me. See what the experts have to say:
 
Hopefully Bush won’t veto it… there needs to be a fence covering all of the Mexico border… also… the northern border… the Canadians actually try to help us. Thier governement also doesn’t try to encourage illegal immigration like the corrupt Mexican government.

IMO… they ought to extend the wall at least a few hundred feet underground.
Ituyu;1537165:
Hi Ituyu,

I would like to add a couple of comments to your doucments refereces. A recent report published by “La Tribune” a leading french economic newspapers (a couple of days ago in fact) shows a close correlation between immigration (legal or illegal) and economic growth. The countries with the highest economic success in the past several years are the ones which the highest number of immigrants. France, in this study, has one of the lowest growth rates, and one of the smallest number of immigrants. Also, in France, employers having employed illegal immigrants are punishable by law.

The recent, senate approved bill, ( to build 700 miles of fence along the mexican american border) is a step towards America’s economic decline. On top it is inefficient (as, on the one hand, it will only cover 1/3 of the mexican american border and nothing of the 5 500 miles of the Canadian american one; and, on the other hand, only about 40 to 50 percent of illegal imigrants, comme illegally through the border; the rest come in with valid visas and over stay). The Fence will cost 2 billion dollars and the republicans expect this will bring them votes in november elections. Votes are expensive these days.

I hope american people do not get fooled by this unfortunate and expensive “window dressing” exercise. I believe a Bush’s veto is the best way forward
 
Ituyu;1537165:
Hi Ituyu,

I would like to add a couple of comments to your doucments refereces. A recent report published by “La Tribune” a leading french economic newspapers (a couple of days ago in fact) shows a close correlation between immigration (legal or illegal) and economic growth. The countries with the highest economic success in the past several years are the ones which the highest number of immigrants. France, in this study, has one of the lowest growth rates, and one of the smallest number of immigrants. Also, in France, employers having employed illegal immigrants are punishable by law.

The recent, senate approved bill, ( to build 700 miles of fence along the mexican american border) is a step towards America’s economic decline. On top it is inefficient (as, on the one hand, it will only cover 1/3 of the mexican american border and nothing of the 5 500 miles of the Canadian american one; and, on the other hand, only about 40 to 50 percent of illegal imigrants, comme illegally through the border; the rest come in with valid visas and over stay). The Fence will cost 2 billion dollars and the republicans expect this will bring them votes in november elections. Votes are expensive these days.

I hope american people do not get fooled by this unfortunate and expensive “window dressing” exercise. I believe a Bush’s veto is the best way forward
I couldn’t agree with your assessment more! In all of Western Civilization we’re the only one’s that are experiencing economic growth and the reason economists say is immigration, legal and “illegal”.

The fence is diversionary tactic by a do nothing Congress. It makes it look like they’re doing something. The reality is that they haven’t allocated enough funds to build the thing. It will do more harm than good. It’s a slap in the face to Mexico. It will assure that even more people will die in their attempt to get here. It will involve more desperate measures and in the end it won’t work!
latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-border1oct01,1,6518275.story?coll=la-headlines-nation
 
Hopefully Bush won’t veto it… there needs to be a fence covering all of the Mexico border… also… the northern border… the Canadians actually try to help us. Thier governement also doesn’t try to encourage illegal immigration like the corrupt Mexican government.

IMO… they ought to extend the wall at least a few hundred feet underground.
Right on. The fence is a very good idea.

Those opposed cry that there is increased danger to illegals trying to enter the US. They view this as a negative aspect.

I see it as a very positive aspect of the fence.

Increased difficulty, danger and risk are just what we want – not to see anyone harmed but rather as a deterrent. It will make people in Mexico think twice about trying to enter the US illegally. When it is more difficult and riskier to attempt the act many will change their focus to other, legal methods of behavior.

It is the responsibility of our government to discourage unlawful behavior of all kinds and the fence is a good step in the process of discouraging illegal immigration and other unlawful acts by illegals.

No country, including the US, has any legal or moral responsibility to make it easy or safe to illegally enter or to do any form of unlawful behavior.
 
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