House chaplain forced out by Ryan

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I had a book called “Architects of the Culture of Death”. An entire chapter was devoted to her.
 
Ridgerunner said:
You have no idea why Ryan did what he did, so it’s really just dislike of the man that you’re expressing.
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Or just the usual mind-reading.

Or is that mind-reading, as it is so often done, really just an expression of dislike?
 
stinkcat_14 said:
Except of course, she did receive social security, so she was in favor of redistributive socialism when she was getting the redistribution.
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I didn’t say I admired her as a person or even as a writer. Neither is the case.
 
dvdjs said:
Or just the usual mind-reading.

Or is that mind-reading, as it is so often done, really just an expression of dislike?
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Ah! My stalker.

No. I don’t think about most of the liberals on here in a personal way at all. I neither like nor dislike them. But when one condemns Ryan for a non-existent reason and is a vocal liberal, there aren’t many choices available to explain .

(Well, I’ll admit I rather do like three of the liberals on CAF as persons. But I wouldn’t want to embarrass them by naming them.)
 
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Ridgerunner said:
No. I don’t think about most of the liberals on here as persons at all. I neither like nor dislike them. But when one condemns Ryan for a non-existent reason and is a vocal liberal, there aren’t many choices available to explain .
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How do you define liberal? Is a free trader a liberal? Is someone who wants less regulation a liberal?
 
stinkcat_14 said:
How do you define liberal? Is a free trader a liberal? Is someone who wants less regulation a liberal?
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There are as many kinds of liberals as there are conservatives; probably more now that I think about it.
 
Ridgerunner said:
She was harsher than most (and Paul Ryan) would be today when it comes to social obligation, but one needs to realize what her antecedents were and the fact that when she wrote her works there was not a widespread understanding of socialism.
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good heavens this is incorrect
Ridgerunner said:
Ah! My stalker.
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dvdjs is a next level stalker. Posting in this thread before you ever did in order to spring the trap. Pre-stalking, if you will.
 
Here we go with the Ayn Rand references.

Of course, liberal Catholics will accept most any other atheist. Just have to have the right opinions.
 
Not to mention her denial of rights to the unborn, which probably had Cicero rolling in his grave.
 
Alan Greenspan was an admirer of Ayn Rand until Reagan appointed him Fed chair, the one entity Ayn Rand detested.
 
As Nixon allegedly stated, “We’re all Keynesians
now.” Why bother with your left and right labels?
 
lmachine said:
vdjs is a next level stalker. Posting in this thread before you ever did in order to spring the trap. Pre-stalking, if you will.
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Please don’t indulge this posting., that evokes such a sense of fremdschamen.
 
stinkcat_14 said:
Except of course, she did receive social security, so she was in favor of redistributive socialism when she was getting the redistribution.
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No, you are ignorant on her position here.

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stinkcat_14 said:
Except of course, she did receive social security, so she was in favor of redistributive socialism when she was getting the redistribution.
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how much did she pay into the system? is it redistribution when you receive what you paid for? she was against it being forced on people and i guess would have opted out if she had a choice but she didn’t.
 
Ridgerunner said:
In other words, you can’t prove it. You just invented it in order to be nasty toward Republicans.
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Your epistemology is faulty. I gave you behavior based evidence, which is more reliable than a survey.

You seem to be pretty defensive of Republicans for a person who claims not to be one. You also have a habit of taking cheap shots at Democrats - claiming they won’t spend a dime to reduce the abortion rate or that they criticized Sarah Palin for giving birth to Trig.

Pot calls kettle black.
Ridgerunner said:
And your lack of understanding of Evangelicals tells me you will call almost anybody appointed to replace the chaplain a “Calvinist Evangelical”, which in most of the U.S. is practically an oxymoron.

You should get to know more Evangelicals. The world headquarters of the largest of their denominations is right here. They are very much cooperative with Catholics in prolife and social service activities. And there are big differences among different “brands” of Evangelicals. They are not “prosperity gospel” people and are not classic Calvinists by any stretch of the imagination.

Southern Baptist writers call the 'prosperity gospel" pagan. And so it is.
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You probably don’t know the difference between a Calvinist & an Arminian. Well, ask your Evangelical buddies about it.

The Calvinists are most certainly taking over the SBC:

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Ridgerunner said:
So you trot out Dem talking points about Repubs in order to make them seem like the “Evangelicals” most of them are not, and condemn “Evanglicals” for being something they’re not.
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You never miss an opportunity to falsely accuse Democrats. I am not a Democrat, so why should I parrot their talking points?In any case, I’ve never heard Dems mentioning Calvinists. Most have no clue about religion.
Ridgerunner said:
But I’ll grant this. Based on what some previous poster in another thread posted about “Evangelicals” in the eastern U.S. and historic prevalence of “social gospel” movements in the “Yankee” portions of the Eastern seaboard, it doesn’t greatly surprise me that some would think of Evangelicals in the way you do. It might well apply in the eastern U.S.
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Nope. I started researching Calvinists after watching the debate between Trent Horn of CA and James White of AO ministries. It’s a great debate - well worth watching.

Note how hostile the Calvinist is towards Catholicism. This is main stream ideology out in the open.

 
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