House GOP scraps vote on Sandy aid

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Scott_Lafrance said:
Ummm, why should I, as a Virginia resident, have to pay for the damage of stuff in New Jersey?
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There’s a really simple answer to that. Virginia is not an independent nation, it is a subset of a much larger nation that has been pooling its resources since its creation (and was in fact designed to pool resources). That’s why we have federal taxes, that’s why my tax dollars go towards education in Mississippi, education in California, and farm subsidies in Iowa. That’s just how our society works.
 
oldcelt said:
Peter King was just on Fox berating his own party…the Republicans are in complete disarray.

John
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To be fair, Peter King is a Congressman from New York (Long Island). If he doesn’t protest the Republicans’ decision not to vote on aid, who will?
 
Speaker Boehner and Leader Cantor Statement on Hurricane Sandy Relief
House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) and Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) released the following statement regarding the requested funding for victims of Hurricane Sandy:
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“Getting critical aid to the victims of Hurricane Sandy should be the first priority in the new Congress, and that was reaffirmed today with members of the New York and New Jersey delegations. The House will vote Friday to direct needed resources to the National Flood Insurance Program. And on January 15th, the first full legislative day of the 113th Congress, the House will consider the remaining supplemental request for the victims of Hurricane Sandy.”
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speaker.gov/press-release/speaker-boehner-and-leader-cantor-statement-hurricane-sandy-relief

Peter King: Votes On Sandy Aid Will Be Held Friday And Jan. 15
Following a meeting with House leadership and Northeastern lawmakers on Wednesday, Rep. Peter King (R-NY) said that the House will vote on $9 billion in Hurricane Sandy relief on Friday and again for $51 billion in aid on Jan. 15.
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King added that he will support House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) once up for re-election in the new Congress. Boehner canceled a vote on the legislation late Tuesday evening, resulting in a backlash from Northeastern Republicans.
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Package that will be voted on on Friday be on the National Flood Insurance Program and on the 15th of January the pork that democrats filled the Sandy relief bill with
 
meltzerboy said:
To be fair, Peter King is a Congressman from New York (Long Island). If he doesn’t protest the Republicans’ decision not to vote on aid, who will?
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Democrats, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC, The New York Times, and about 90% of the other newspapers in the U.S.
 
BlueEyedLady said:
There’s a really simple answer to that. Virginia is not an independent nation, it is a subset of a much larger nation that has been pooling its resources since its creation (and was in fact designed to pool resources). That’s why we have federal taxes, that’s why my tax dollars go towards education in Mississippi, education in California, and farm subsidies in Iowa. That’s just how our society works.
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I guess that’s why the Obama led government cared more about the international investors than they did the voters on the “fiscal cliff” deal.
On the day after the last-minute agreement, an uptick in global stock prices seemed far more welcome in Washington than the reaction of voters. The reason is that foreign creditors to the US Treasury had been near a tipping point in wanting their money back, possibly forcing a crisis for US debt.

Investors worldwide now demand the US government display more stability and trust. Globalization has given them a big say in the policy logjams of many countries, and the United States is not immune. Its lingering disputes over issues like taxes and spending have become a prime indicator of its ability to remain innovative, reliable, and productive.
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news.yahoo.com/forced-fiscal-cliff-deal-try-foreign-investors-204534810–politics.html
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When you live on borrowed money you are slave to your creditors.
 
BlueEyedLady said:
There’s a really simple answer to that. Virginia is not an independent nation, it is a subset of a much larger nation that has been pooling its resources since its creation (and was in fact designed to pool resources). That’s why we have federal taxes, that’s why my tax dollars go towards education in Mississippi, education in California, and farm subsidies in Iowa. That’s just how our society works.
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No, that was not how it was intended. That is how men of ill-tempered character and greedy dispositions have made it.

constitution.org/cons/crockett.htm
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
No, that was not how it was intended. That is how men of ill-tempered character and greedy dispositions have made it.

constitution.org/cons/crockett.htm
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Davy Crockett was never an authority on the constitution. What you have posted is an unverifiable account of something that one Representative said. It carries no more weight than posting a secondhand account of something Eric Cantor or Nancy Pelosi said or thought. What matters is what is written in the Constitution and what the SCOTUS says about it.
 
“If Congress can apply money indefinitely to the general welfare, and are the sole and supreme judges of the general welfare, they may take the care of religion into their own hands; they may establish teachers in every State, county, and parish, and pay them out of the public Treasury; they may take into their own hands the education of children, establishing in like manner schools throughout the Union; they may undertake the regulation of all roads other than post roads. In short, every thing, from the highest object of State legislation, down to the most minute object of police, would be thrown under the power of Congress; for every object I have mentioned would admit the application of money, and might be called, if Congress pleased, provisions for the general welfare”

I think that guy would be considered an authority on the constitution. That quote is pretty damning to those that think Congress has unlimited power to spend any way they please, an expansionist Supreme Court notwithstanding.
 
JIB said:
“If Congress can apply money indefinitely to the general welfare, and are the sole and supreme judges of the general welfare, they may take the care of religion into their own hands; they may establish teachers in every State, county, and parish, and pay them out of the public Treasury; they may take into their own hands the education of children, establishing in like manner schools throughout the Union; they may undertake the regulation of all roads other than post roads. In short, every thing, from the highest object of State legislation, down to the most minute object of police, would be thrown under the power of Congress; for every object I have mentioned would admit the application of money, and might be called, if Congress pleased, provisions for the general welfare”

I think that guy would be considered an authority on the constitution. That quote is pretty damning to those that think Congress has unlimited power to spend any way they please, an expansionist Supreme Court notwithstanding.
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That makes him a well spoken man with a strong opinion that you happen to agree with.

That does not make him a constitutional expert.
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
Yes, apparently Lincoln was a big fan of secession…until he wasn’t. The nations first flip-flopper.
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Except he’s talking about revolution…not secession. If you can change the whole government…have at it…don’t try to break it into little kingdoms. Also, there is that important caveat…If you have the power.

John
 
oldcelt said:
Except he’s talking about revolution…not secession. If you can change the whole government…have at it…don’t try to break it into little kingdoms. Also, there is that important caveat…If you have the power.

John
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Might makes right. He who has the biggest guns writes history. I’ve heard all of the excuses from the lovers of empire. 🤷
 
JIB said:
James Madison isnt a constitutional expert?
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No, sadly, James Madison’s thinking has no bearing on Constitutional law today. Today’s experts are all about getting around him. He’s an obstacle to the greater good, so they’d claim. To be a constitutional expert today means to be one dedicated to overcoming the Constitution itself along with the hidebound notions which form tradition and precedent. Madison is decidedly not among that group.
 
Not reading all the posts but the Congress will take up Sandy again and strip out the pork the Senate sent over.
 
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