Houston's new Co-Cathedral

[jpoii]

the new Co-Cathedral holds 1800 people the old Co-Cathedral, i’m not sure … but it seems like it was only 5-600 or so

i think you need to reread what i said. i never spoke of the old co-Cathedral i was talking of the Cathedral the minor Basilica in Galveston

 

[faithfulservant]

What channel/time is the dedication being aired on TV?

ch 13 will air the dedication at noon on tuesday april 2

ch 11 will have their own special about the Co-Cathedral at 7pm on monday, the 1st

 

[faithfulservant]

i think you need to reread what i said. i never spoke of the old co-Cathedral i was talking of the Cathedral the minor Basilica in Galveston

my apologies… but why would we want to travel to a Cathedral in galveston for special diocesan events that have to do with the houston population… i’m not real sure what your point is… that we are not in need of a new Co-Cathedral in houston because the galveston cathedral, which is in disrepair itself, holds the same number of people?

 

[muffinmojo]

This seems like what modern architecture should be like. It embodies the same spirit of the great European style cathedrals but reflects the people who made it. I love that it keeps many traditional aspects while incorporating new things. Whoever designed it was very sensitive to our rich heritage.

Why can’t all modern churches be designed like this?

And yes, I think the LA cathedral is one of the most hideous buildings ever contructed.

 

[Orogeny]

Yes it is a beautiful co-cathedral, but why was it built? The Cathedral (minor basilica) in Galveston last I heard needs a lot of work in restoration. Why does the Archdiocese of Galveston Houston need with two co-cathedrals?

We don’t. We have only one co-cathedral. St. Mary’s in Galveston is a cathedral, not a co-cathedral because it was the original seat of the Diocese. We need two cathedrals because we have a dual diocese (Galveston-Houston).

Peace

Tim

 

[Orogeny]

and we are blessed to be able to participate in the dedication of the Co-Cathedral … at least vicariously, through the wonders of television… i know i’ll be watching… :extrahappy:

and i am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO glad that our wonderful “new” sheperd and recently named Cardinal Archbishop Daniel DiNardo got here to right the ship as far as the construction of the Co-Cathedral itself so that we can have a worship place to be proud of for the next hundred years or so:thumbsup:

One of our deacons, Dcn. Phillip Jackson, will be chanting the Gospel during the dedication. He will chant in latin first and then in english.

Peace

Tim

 

[faithfulservant]

wow… that’s impressive… a deacon that can chant in latin …

 

[faithfulservant]

We don’t. We have only one co-cathedral. St. Mary’s in Galveston is a cathedral, not a co-cathedral because it was the original seat of the Diocese. We need two cathedrals because we have a dual diocese (Galveston-Houston).

Peace

Tim

someone on another board that i post on has suggested that it is only a matter of time that galveston will split off and become a suffragan to the newly named Archdiocese of Houston … not knowing the nuts and bolts of how that was possible,i said the only way it would happen is if Archbishop DiNardo decided not to continue the long standing tradition of recognizing the importance of galveston in the history of the archdiocese… since he seems like a pretty traditional guy , i was guessing that would not happen

 

[cecilia97]

ch 13 will air the dedication at noon on tuesday april 2

ch 11 will have their own special about the Co-Cathedral at 7pm on monday, the 1st

Thank you so much, faithfulservant. I was wondering if the Galveston v Houston “fun” was going to cover up my question.

 

[Brendan]

To this I say, “who cares”. Even if what you say is true for the original reason the old bishop moved up to Houston in the 1960s, that’s within his authority to do.

The determination of the seat of a diocese is reserved to the Holy See.

The bishop may request it (as I presume did happen), but he cannot do it on his own authority.

But clearly, the Holy See saw fit to move the cathedra for what ever reason pleased His Holiness.

 

[Corki]

i think you need to reread what i said. i never spoke of the old co-Cathedral i was talking of the Cathedral the minor Basilica in Galveston

The Basilica in Galveston holds a little over 400.

 

[Corki]

As I said, Galveston is about an hour away from central/downtown Houston and closer to two hours from the north and west sides. I certainly wasn’t asserting an exact distance or measure of time.

Galveston is a little over two hours from me and I am not anywhere near the western border of the diocese. Centrality is not necessarily the only reason to chose a location but Galveston is not anywhere close to central. I doubt Galveston could support the administrative offices necessary for the chancery complex where centrality is more important.

The diocese will be holding several Masses in April for Catholic school kids and I hope to get on the chaperone list when my kids’ school has their turn. I can hardly wait to see it. We got only three invites for our parish for the dedication.

 

[DVina]

Yes it is a beautiful co-cathedral, but why was it built? The Cathedral (minor basilica) in Galveston last I heard needs a lot of work in restoration. Why does the Archdiocese of Galveston Houston need with two co-cathedrals? Please do not tell me that it is because we have a new Cardinal, because the plans for it were long before there was even an Archdiocese.

We needed a new cathedral for many reasons:

The basilica DOES need restoration, but it is in Galveston, and most of the diocese, as well as the bishops are in Houston. The see was originally founded in Galveston, but after the 1900 hurricane, Houston became the commercial center of Texas, and everything moved away from Galveston.

The old co-cathedral was too small for any Archdiocesan events, seating fewer than 1000, even with folding chairs in the aisles. For 5 years all big diocesan events have taken place at St. John Vianney which seats about 1200 in the main church.

The old building is literally falling apart.

I am sure there will be a capital campaign soon for the restoration of St. Mary Basilica.

 

[DVina]

ch 13 will air the dedication at noon on tuesday april 2

ch 11 will have their own special about the Co-Cathedral at 7pm on monday, the 1st

The dedication is Weds, NOT Tues! My hubby is a Knight and they are driving visiting bishops from teh airport to the cathedral. He got Archbishop Hughes (New Orleans).

The Knights will be watching from the parish hall via the wonders of electronics.

I don’t know if they are still planning on razing the old church, but I do know they purchased the old Federal Reserve building across form the chancery to use as a parish hall and classrooms.

 

[benedictgal]

My bishop was a former auxiliary for the Houston archdiocese (before it was raised to the dignity of Metropolitan Archdiocese).

From the looks of the pictures, this should be the “poster-child”, if you will, for future church buildings. It does combine both modern and traditional elements. Too bad LA couldn’t do theirs all over again based on the Texas model. This cathedral makes me proud to be a Texas Catholic.

I guess my only caveat, and this is with modern stain-glass windows, centers around how sharp and angular the images are. I do miss the traditional, more rounded approach. The faces in the traditional windows are much more beautiful and more human. The angular and sharp images are too strern and they just don’t seem to convey any warmth to them.

 

[cecilia97]

My bishop was a former auxiliary for the Houston archdiocese (before it was raised to the dignity of Metropolitan Archdiocese).

From the looks of the pictures, this should be the “poster-child”, if you will, for future church buildings. It does combine both modern and traditional elements. Too bad LA couldn’t do theirs all over again based on the Texas model. This cathedral makes me proud to be a Texas Catholic.

I guess my only caveat, and this is with modern stain-glass windows, centers around how sharp and angular the images are. I do miss the traditional, more rounded approach. The faces in the traditional windows are much more beautiful and more human. The angular and sharp images are too strern and they just don’t seem to convey any warmth to them.

I also think the face of Christ on the window looks a little too Anglo. I’m very excited about the new building and all the wonderful things going on in our diocese. But, shhhhh!..we don’t want a bunch more people finding out how great it is down here.

Bugs…LARGE bugs. And humidity. Stay away.

 

[pnewton]

The front page of the Sunday Chronicle had a nice picture of it, but the best picture was on the front of the insert of the beautiful crucifix behind the altar. No doubt from that this is a Catholic Church.

While I like classic gothic for churches, I was pleased to see such a traditional emphasis placed on most of the features of the Church. It speaks well of Joseph Fiorenza. Now to have AB Dinardo, we truly are fortunate.

 

[faithfulservant]

The dedication is Weds, NOT Tues! My hubby is a Knight and they are driving visiting bishops from the airport to the cathedral. He got Archbishop Hughes (New Orleans).

hehe, thanks for that deb… if you notice i got the dates right…just associated them with the wrong days of the week :blushing:

my bad…i attribute it as a function of becoming senile in my old age

 

[faithfulservant]

The front page of the Sunday Chronicle had a nice picture of it, but the best picture was on the front of the insert of the beautiful crucifix behind the altar. No doubt from that this is a Catholic Church.

hehehe…when you have a 20 foot Cross and a 12 foot Corpus, it leaves no doubt

 

[cecilia97]

The front page of the Sunday Chronicle had a nice picture of it, but the best picture was on the front of the insert of the beautiful crucifix behind the altar. No doubt from that this is a Catholic Church.

While I like classic gothic for churches, I was pleased to see such a traditional emphasis placed on most of the features of the Church. It speaks well of Joseph Fiorenza. Now to have AB Dinardo, we truly are fortunate.

I bought the newspaper for the first time in 10 years to read the article! The only thing I did not care for was the description of the tabernacle. Something along the lines of “it’s used to store leftover communion wafers”. Sounds like a fancy refrigerator. Clearly not a Catholic writer. Technically correct but not the way I would say it.